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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
I thought GTX 750 Ti and 750 was 28nm Maxwell? That's what i said :D These are 28nm Maxwell Kinda excited to see what performance/efficiency/price changes come with 28/20nm maxwell NDA lifts at midnight fyi. Every time there's an NDA, it uses a different midnight lol | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
On February 17 2014 10:17 Wala.Revolution wrote: So a friend asked me to build a computer, with a budget between $800-1000 (excluding monitor(s), peripherals, etc). He has a 17 inch monitor (1600x900 I think) and is wondering if it's possible to run dual monitors with different resolutions. I built a computer successfully once before so I'm fairly confident I could do it again but I did not overlock. It seems newbies can handle with instructions so I want to try it if it is so. He'll be playing mostly SCII LoL some dota2 and csgo, but wants the computer to run recent games at high settings, if possible. Requirements in format: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $800-1000, possibly going to 1200 (for only parts inside a case) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1600x900, looking for second monitor to dual-monitor if possible with old monitor What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SCII, LoL, Dota2, CSGO, possibly recent games at high quality What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? office work mostly Do you intend to overclock? if easy enough with instructions Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? if needed or warranted Do you need an operating system? win7 Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? none needed, and will be bought separately from the budget if needed If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. none What country will you be buying your parts in? US If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Nearby Fry's and Microcenter So I chose the high-end gamer sample build and am thinking i5 4670k Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP Samsung 840 EVO 250GB WD Blue 500GB Roswill Capstone 450W (modular) Thermalright True Spirit 140 But the G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 2133MHz is out of stock on Newegg and costs $94 on Amazon. How does this one compare? Or do you guys have any other recommentations? The ASUS GTX 770 2GB DirectCu II is out of stock as well on Newegg. I can't find any around the $310 mark. Is this just a really popular card and I should wait until its restocked or is there another comparable card I can buy? I haven't decided on a case yet. Also I never bought any computer parts from amazon. Is it reliable? EDIT: oh if you guys know any great deals on monitors I'd appreciate any tips. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Not a good idea to buy a Rosewill (a Newegg brand) product from Amazon. The RAM kit is very slightly worse, you won't notice it if you're not benchmarking. Radeons went up quite a bit due to the mining craze going on atm. There are some GTX 770 around the $330 mark. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
Graphics card seems even more confusing that other parts. Is the mining craze referring to bitcoin mining? Is there a short answer to why radeon cards are better than others for that? As for the mobo if I buy from microcenter with the processor, should I find the reliable brand of cheapest Z87 boards? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
that's beyond silly Yes, 680/770/280x/7970 are the same tier Mobo to get depends on microcenter deals Is the mining craze referring to bitcoin mining? Is there a short answer to why radeon cards are better than others for that? Altcoins mainly, (so etc litecoin, dogecoin) Radeon GPU's are the most cost effective solution for mining, so they're used. Thus prices have inflated by >50% across the board on most of their GPU's instead of natural price dropping over time that happened with the 7000 series etc. It's a joke to buy basically anything radeon in the US right now for gaming purposes | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
So I can get Asus for $150 (135 with MIR), Gigabyte for $170 (160 with MIR), Another Asus for $125 (115 with MIR), AsRock for $130 (120 with MIR) or MSI for $85 (70 with MIR). Which one should I get? They all get 30 off standalone price if I combo with 4670k. + Show Spoiler [Tentative parts list] + i5 4670k $180 EVGA GTX 770 2GB $375 (360 MIR) WD Blue 500GB 7200rpm $55 Samsung 840 EVO 250GB $146 Thermalright True Spirit 140 $50 Gskills Ares 2x4GB 2133Mhz $75 Roswill capstone 450 modular $70 I'm going to buy the video card and HDD at the local store because I can return them faster if there isn't any other factors other than ~$2 difference. The card also comes with a free game coupon which I'm not sure what games I can digitally download with it (or if they still have coupons left). | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
As for mobo.. Any aside from the cheap MSI. It comes down to stuff like onboard audio honestly, little details like that. Hard to pick them apart without google-fu or knowing more intricate details that i can never remember | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
EDIT: would you know if the the average person be able to notice a difference in audio among those cards? I heard onboard audio has now made soundcards pretty much moot. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
There is an audible difference between the different integrated audio if you have at all decent audio equipment. If you're not an audiophile, you probably won't miss what you don't have, but i'm not actually sure how significant it is on say $30, or $100 headphones | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
Case: BitFenix Prodigy Arctic White Motherboard: MSI H81I CPU: Intel i5-4670 Power Supply: Silverstone SS-ST45SF 450W RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB 1600MHz Graphics Card: EVGA nVidia 760 FTW Dual 4GB (didn't want to spend so much, but only one they had in stock at the time) Hard Drive: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 3TB / Samsung HD103UJ 1TB Monitor: 22" Samsung 2233RZ / 22" Samsung 2233SW Headphones: Razer Carcharias Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 Kayboard: KeyCool 87 (MX Clear) / Quickfire Stealth (MX Green) / Das Keyboard (MX Blue) Mouse: Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Mouse Pad: SteelPad 5L ![[image loading]](https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/p526x296/1798287_10152128180733463_1986719457_n.jpg) | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The Gigabyte card is almost 12 inches long (as opposed to 10.5" of most other GTX 770's) so if you're buying the Gigabyte and a cheapass case, just make sure it fits. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Windforce 770 is specced for guaranteed 1189 boost, yet i've never seen mine below 1254 and it's hit 1293 in a few softwares ![[image loading]](http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/L/386553/original/Overclocking-02.png) 1280, 1293, 1306 are clock speed steps on boost (it won't go to anything between them) so we just have silicon lottery here and every card is 1 notch up/down from the others | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
The 880s and shit like that that will come out this summer, those will be Maxell on 20 nm or not? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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skyR
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Tentative parts list] + i5 4670k $180 Z87 Extreme4 $130 (120 MIR, -$30 already applied with combo) Asus GTX 770 DirectCU II $350 (340 MIR) WD Blue 500GB 7200rpm $55 Samsung 840 EVO 250GB $146 Thermalright True Spirit 140 $50 Gskills Ares 2x4GB 2133Mhz $75 Roswill capstone 450 modular $70 $1056 (1036 after MIR) + case. I'm going to buy the video card and HDD at the local store because I can return them faster if there aren't any other factors other than ~$2 difference. The card also comes with a free game coupon although I'm not sure what games I can digitally download with it (or if microcenter still has coupons left). EDIT: also the link to WD Blue 500GB on the sample builds part is 404'd so you might want to update it. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
NZXT H440 is a new case that's also sound-dampening (and amazing) and not much more expensive than the Define R4. Arc Midi R2 has a tinted window by default so.. if you don't want a window than that rules out the Arc Midi R2. Define R4 has a window variant and a non-window variant. XL R2 isn't necessary unless you want a big case for lots of HDDs or do an enthusiast build sometime in the future. | ||
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