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Own3d vs Twitch.tv HD 12/9/2011 - Page 2

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PET
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:15:10
December 10 2011 10:15 GMT
#21
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
December 10 2011 10:22 GMT
#22
On December 10 2011 19:15 PET wrote:
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.

aka u're a noob and it's twitch's fault
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:25:32
December 10 2011 10:24 GMT
#23
Twitch pays 2$ per 1000ads, own3d pays 3$ per 1000ads if you have over 1k viewers on average, thats why people change to own3d.

For me own3d has a LOT less lag here but the chat system is horrible and vod system is completely useless.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
December 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#24
From a viewer point: Twitch lags more for me, the quality is much lower on HD. I am happy everytime I see owned used over twitch.
PET
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania430 Posts
December 10 2011 10:46 GMT
#25
On December 10 2011 19:22 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:15 PET wrote:
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.

aka u're a noob and it's twitch's fault


Thanks for creating such an useful and interesting post.
www.GamerPET.com
Grumbll
Profile Joined February 2008
France4 Posts
December 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#26
I have a good connection but a lot of problem with Twitch/Justin. Sometimes it works, sometimes I have big lag.... (even at 720/480p).

I'm so happy when own3d is used. I never had problem with own3d in HD.
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
December 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#27
On December 10 2011 19:15 PET wrote:
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.

There are statistics at twitch.tv (way better ones actually than at own3d or others with extremely detailled information and charts...) and you just have to know that twitch records everything.

For me the twitch.tv is the best streaming site. First of all they sponsor many esport events (and TL <3) and their interface is the best. Why would own3d hide the interface when you don't have the stream maximized? You have a lot of space anyways since you don't want to see every detail because if you would, you would have maximized it. The sound slider only works if you klick the middle of the circle. If you click 1 pixel too far left etc. the slider will move, but the sound won't change. The TOP overlay doesn't tell me anything I need to know when I#m watching the stream, it just makes me unable to see the supply counts. When you load a own3d stream you have about 15 seconds a pixelated image with pictures from minutes ago mixed with the one streaming now and you can't agnize anything. The stop and reload button don't actually work how they are supposed to. If the stream crashes you need to F5 the whole site because the reload button doesnt do anythinh.
For regame.tv you have to wait 30 seconds until the image shows the stream and not just black. The sound slider is really small and you can't easyily see to what it's at.
All these things twitch/justin.tv as perfectly sorted out which is why I prefer it heavily over any other streamin site.

To the question of the OP. The streaming site you use shouldn't change anything for your computer like Lag.
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Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
December 10 2011 15:56 GMT
#28
From my experience watching the WCG streams and Destiny since he switched, I get a lot of problems with ads and discoloration while watching the stream. Twitch's ads have their problems but they are really good about pulling an ad. I prefer Twitch simply because they support TL and also seem to respond quite quickly to tech issues. Also there use of reddit shows how much they care about the community feedback.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 11 2011 03:21 GMT
#29
On December 10 2011 10:36 aethereality wrote:
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On December 10 2011 10:16 HellGreen wrote:
I agree with everything, but I'd also like to leave three comments on the own3d player.
1. As R!CH said, the volume slider is abyssimal. It's a poor implementation with no option to click-set the volume and sometimes it plays sound at a different volume than it is set at.
2. To cancel fullscreen mode you need to re-click the fullscreen button (or press ESC). On twitch you just click the image anywhere.
3. Upon mouse movements a temporary top bar appears, covering any player names in SC2.

Twitch.tv wins 3-0

Just to set things straight, Day9 was with Livestream before switching if my memory serves me right?


Actually, I'm pretty sure it was ustream.


Day9 started his daily on Livestream(way back when everyone was streaming on livestream, lol) and switched to ustream a while ago due to lag issues. UStream also ended up being problematic so he switched at some point, I don't remember when.

Also, to address hellgreen's complaint number 2 about owned tv, double clicking exits fullscreen for me.
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
December 11 2011 03:43 GMT
#30
I guess not everyone has this problem but the twitch servers seem like playing the lottery at times. One server will pull 250KB/s for 1080p and others can't even keep a 360p lag free struggling to feed me 80-100KB's

Twitch's has the interface, own3d seems to have better infrastructure. I never get lag there.
ntvarify
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 03:58:08
December 11 2011 03:44 GMT
#31
On December 10 2011 10:49 Medrea wrote:
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On December 10 2011 08:41 Boblhead wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:55 JuddCaster wrote:
Own3d probably got popular because all the LoL players stream there. Not sure why Destiny switched though.


apparently own3d doesn't have problems with paying out money from ad revenue to players. Twitch tv as idra stated was almost like 4 months late on sending him a check. Plus i assume destiny worked something out with them.


Something about the money situation doesnt make sense though. If idra ran a stream for a good amount of time, he could make well over $150,000 USD a year just playing about 4 or so hours a day for 5 days a week @~17k viewers.

Now I look at that number and I say no fucking way. The money might be better on the low-end but you have to know these guys cut you off at a point when they simply don't have the money to hand out anymore.

I would assume they would make a system where they would make a profit off of every commercial, regardless of how much they had to give a player in total. So Twitch would make more money then IdrA, even if all their money came from his stream and therefore could give him that much.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2138 Posts
December 11 2011 03:50 GMT
#32
Own3d needs a feature that shows who is online, as not all progamers have a account on TL :S
John 15:13
jklioup
Profile Joined November 2010
13 Posts
December 13 2011 00:39 GMT
#33
twitch.tv is really laggy and stuttering for the past few months.. i can watch anything on own3d and can barely watch twitch.tv on 480p lagfree for 4 seconds ~~
Its really annoying for me because most of the SC2 stuff is broadcasted on twitch.tv and its just impossible to watch. Lags even on 240p
gg
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 01:15:18
December 13 2011 01:15 GMT
#34
I have first world internet and my problem with own3d is that the quality is less than advertised because of server side transcoding as R1CH pointed out and the sound quality of the streamers that do go there is often horrible, so I mute it. Own3d just doesnt seem very high quality and very corner-cutting.
twitch.tv/medrea
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 13 2011 06:38 GMT
#35
twitch.tv is $5 per 1000 impressions for this month
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:04:33
December 13 2011 07:01 GMT
#36
Twitch seems to have worked better for me so far.

I like watching lower quality non-hd streams at night before I sleep (HD has too much detail and is too visually stimulating to let me sleep), and I've had a problem with trying to switch to 360p from HD at times.on Own3D. Edit: I think this issue may have been fixed though after trying a couple streams out =)

Also I prefer Twitch's interface and there are no problems with discoloration ever.

I guess its a bonus that Twitch tries to listen to feedback and has a community presence, as well as supporting esports.
WinteRR
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:19:31
December 13 2011 07:19 GMT
#37
The only reason why pros use own3d is that it pays more. The service provided by Twitch for me as a viewer is many, many times better than own3d: The volume slider actually works and I actually have the 'choice' to ad-block if I so wish (something I find is good considering I'm regularly put through the same ad sometimes 3 times in a row with own3d and there's nothing I can do about it).
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
December 13 2011 09:18 GMT
#38
On December 10 2011 19:46 PET wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:22 nttea wrote:
On December 10 2011 19:15 PET wrote:
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.

aka u're a noob and it's twitch's fault


Thanks for creating such an useful and interesting post.

eh.. im sorry i must have been in a bad mood or something... reading your post now i don't see why i would reply like that.
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
December 13 2011 09:37 GMT
#39
Imo, i think that Own3d is better, less lag for me
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 13 2011 10:18 GMT
#40
On December 10 2011 19:15 PET wrote:
I would chose ReGame and Own3D anytime over Twitch.

Twitch has nothing. Only useful thing is the chat. Rest is crap. I can't cut up videos. I don't have statistics. I don't have categories for VOD's. All twitch has in Control Panel is some chat options and design of the page. Hell, I don't even know how to start/stop the recording of a video.


1. You can cut up videos on Twitch (create highlights)
2. Statistics of what? Followers? Viewers? Views? Cause Twitch has that
3. To stop the recording of a video you hit the stop button or if you use xsplit you just click your channel again.
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