I really don't like this topic cause progamers don't have, generaly, the choise of their mouses/pads and even drink. They have to use some thing from their sponsors'team.

IceBergZ

Malaysia176 Posts

May 25 2013 23:23 GMT

#824

On May 26 2013 02:33 misspoo wrote:
I really don't like this topic cause progamers don't have, generaly, the choise of their mouses/pads and even drink. They have to use some thing from their sponsors'team.

Not every player actually used their sponsor items.

TheMagicianSC2

France74 Posts

May 26 2013 16:04 GMT

#825

For exemple : MVP and iM are powered by Steelseries but he use the logitech g9x i think =)
But yes, he has a keyboard from SS

IPS.Blue

Germany309 Posts

May 27 2013 07:17 GMT

#826

Yep. Everyone reading this thread should keep in mind, that a pro-gamer he likes maybe only uses certain hardware, because he is sponsored by X. Plus most pro-gamers know very little about their equipment. SC 2 has not reached the professionalism, regarding equipment, of for example tennis or golf, yet.

A thread which lists the equipment of absolute mouse experts, like for example Cyro, dicedicerevolution, TheToast or wo1fwood would be much more useful than this thread.

Thor.Rush

Sweden702 Posts

May 27 2013 07:32 GMT

#827

I think perfect comfort is more important than a perfect sensor though. Maybe the g9x isn't the best sensor, but that doesn't stop a player like MC from having the most amazing forcefields. Personally, I think it is a fantastic mouse.

I've tried really hard to adapt to my Spawn mouse, but the bulkiness and asymmetrical shape just isn't meant for fingertip grip in a RTS like SC2 imo (though I could probably use it just fine for FPS). I think it's much better for claw grip.

Cyro

United Kingdom20343 Posts

May 27 2013 07:50 GMT

#828

I think perfect comfort is more important than a perfect sensor though. Maybe the g9x isn't the best sensor, but that doesn't stop

I think that's always true to some extent but the avago 9500 is just far too bad - ultimately it's personal, but it becomes a battle of will your comfort allow you to beat my technical superiority? I think the disadvantages on the avago 9500 are too big to overcome in that case. Inconsistency of up to 7%? If you snap 1000 pixels, that's missing your target by up to 70 pixels. What if the distance from the center of the target to missing it is less than half of that? Even with the perfect movement of the mouse, you literally can't hit the target consistently. Unless you always move the mouse at exactly the same speed, you have to literally guess somewhere in the middle of the up/down curve and hope that you hit, cause you could be plus or minus 35 pixels from the middle of the curve

Thor.Rush

Sweden702 Posts

May 27 2013 07:58 GMT

#829

will your comfort allow you to beat my technical superiority?

Probably not, but do you think it really matters for SC2? I'm not so sure when I see pros using what seems like flawless control, but maybe you're right.

Cyro

United Kingdom20343 Posts

May 27 2013 08:09 GMT

#830

This reminds me of the arguments for certain AMD CPU's with "good enough" performance

Thor.Rush

Sweden702 Posts

May 27 2013 09:40 GMT

#831

I agree with you, but it's just interesting how some pros can have such good accuracy with an inaccurate mouse.

Cyro

United Kingdom20343 Posts

May 27 2013 10:49 GMT

#832

It's not really good accuracy, by elite standards - micro could be a lot better. If everyone stopped putting up with awful mouse sensors and was educated some about better settings, the average and highest level of play in starcraft would probably go up by quite a lot

Thor.Rush

Sweden702 Posts

May 27 2013 15:01 GMT

#833

Yeah, hopefully mouse standards will improve in the future. Btw, is there a ranking/list of mice with the best sensors? Googling it just comes up with really crappy lists lol.

alone

Poland410 Posts

May 27 2013 15:44 GMT

#834

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663 not the newest list sadly, but gives general idea.

Thor.Rush

Sweden702 Posts

May 27 2013 16:08 GMT

#835

Ah ya seen that one. It's alright : )

Cyro

United Kingdom20343 Posts

May 27 2013 16:21 GMT

#836

The CM spawn issue was fixed, but too late; They discontinued it in europe due to poor sales.

Very sad, considering it was good enough to really get noticed, and get on lists like that.

Hopefully they don't leave the v2 with fatal issues (systemwide performance halting) for a year and a half and then cancel that one too because nobody is buying it; their primary market seems to be the kind of enthusiasts who would be aware of such problems before laying down money

Maestro07

Belgium2 Posts

May 27 2013 19:50 GMT

#837

I don't think that the level of sc2 will go up by quite a lot if people start using more accurate mice, precision isn't as important in sc2 I think things like having a good feeling with the shape or the buttons is much more important. If you have for example a mico and you feel good with it do you think changing it for a mouse with a better sensor will help you to improve your gameplay significantly? hum not at all I think

Grouch

Canada152 Posts

May 27 2013 23:35 GMT

#838

On May 27 2013 19:49 Cyro wrote:
It's not really good accuracy, by elite standards - micro could be a lot better. If everyone stopped putting up with awful mouse sensors and was educated some about better settings, the average and highest level of play in starcraft would probably go up by quite a lot

Do you just go from thread to thread and bash the g9x?