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On February 01 2010 21:20 7mk wrote:cant believe that blizzard isnt even working on a patch to fix all this windows7 bullshit 
I would put more blame on Microsoft and Windows 7
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On February 02 2010 09:54 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2010 21:20 7mk wrote:cant believe that blizzard isnt even working on a patch to fix all this windows7 bullshit I would put more blame on Microsoft and Windows 7
To be fair windows was not made for SC. SC was made for play on a computer with an OS. Its blizzards issue, not microsofts.
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It is as much Blizzard's fault as Microsoft's, SC should have been updated a long time ago to do proper 32 bit rendering say, oh 10 years ago when everyone had video cards that could do more than 256 colors. How many other programs designed to Windows 95 specifications do you run on a daily basis?
It's very surprising that Blizzard doesn't really support SC any more despite its huge fan base, I guess WoW is the only product they pay much attention to since it brings in monthly revenue. It really shouldn't be that much work to change the rendering to use the desktop color depth.
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United States4126 Posts
For the people experiencing crashing, are you using 64-bit 7 with multiple cores? I've only heard of crashes with that setup so far.
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Yeah I"m on 64 bit with Quad Core saw a response earlier and am looking into making it run on one core just havent gotten around to it yet. Little lazy since I havent had to stream anything recently. I'll update OP once I do to let you know if it works or not the problem is I went almost a full week with no crashes then got two in one day so it's a little unpredictable hard to tell if anything works or not.
edit: Set it to run on one core but it wont be a while until I know if it works or not.
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Changing the power scheme to 'High Performance' in Power Options seems to fix the lag for other games, perhaps try doing that. Also, anecdotal evidence, I know, but I haven't had a crash or any other problems since switching to high performance from the default balanced setting.
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I'm disappointed there still isn't a patch from blizzard or something to fix this, I've had win7 installed since summer this is the longest I have gone without playing bw. Every season since like 6 I have had atleast 10 games played, now the last 2 seasons is 0 
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I'm running w7 x32 Quad Core and last night I about tossed it out the window. I played for several weeks with no crashing problems then all of a sudden these past 2 weeks it's been crashing quite frequently. First time it happened i was listening to itunes, so i thought it was something with the alt+tab between sc and itunes. but last night w7 took a dump on SC and i had to do a hard reboot about 10 times. Whether it's blizzard or microsoft....WE NEED A FIX AND FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, the point of this post is that w7(x32) still crashes and it's not just x64.
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Best fix I've found (courtesy of http://www.iccup.com/warcraft/forum/general_forum/starcraft_forum_/83879/page1.html)
Best fix for all this and to fix windows 7 freezing i've used is as follows. I've been using this for ages and ages weeks on iccup and have played nearly 70 games this season day to day and its working without freezing anymore. make a .bat file with this in it: cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Games\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Games\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit The batch file should use windows compatibility mode for XP sp3 and 640x480 resolution the rest doesn't matter. But! In starcraft because everyone has multi core systems now but the tricky thing is windows 7 is a bit different in that under Speed - Enable CPU Throttling disable this not enable even though it sound like it should be helpful it does the opposite in windows 7. Also under Video: Enable Color Cycling should be OFF (this means water doesn't change color and stuff nothing important) And Disable Unit Portraits. So, use a batchfile setting affinity to your 1st core for Iccup launcher which in turn makes starcraft only use the 1st core as you use the Launcher to launch starcraft not manually. This disable CPU throttling as we set the affinity ourselves and it would only cause crashes. Now turn off Color Cycling & Unit Portraits. All this and in Windows 7 on a dual core Intel I stopped crashing completely. I used to crash all the time and tested all the combinations of things and all these seem to make it fine. You can tab in and out as much as you like, your resolution will switch fine to your normal desktop resolution i.e. I use 1900x1200. I even use dual monitors and put stuff on my second monitor like films or youtube or desktop gadgets and its fine. Only unit portraits 'might' be alright to turn back on but I didn't test as I never cared about it anyways. Anyways enjoy. Note: The pings to yourself are just for a delay to allow explorer to completely close as an indication before you should launch starcraft. I tested the 98/Me compatibility but it causes a problem with connecting to Iccup and stuff iirc. That 98/Me would fix the colors by itself but do it in the above way for the most stable solution I've experienced.
Mine hasn't crashed, had weird colors, or done anything funky since I began using this file.
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See I've been running that fix the entire time like I said it can run fine for a long time then suddenly it started crashing even with that file open... This is obviously something Blizz is going to have to fix but they probably wont since they're focusing on SC2
edit- lol spelling fixes
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United States7166 Posts
i used to always have crashes with Windows7 no matter what i tried (all methods listed in these thread on TL). though certain things did seem to limit it (disabling Windows Gadgets seemed to help)
the one thing that removed it completely is just to play windowed mode, 0 crashes and been playing a ton with it
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On February 07 2010 05:24 hasuprotoss wrote:Best fix I've found (courtesy of http://www.iccup.com/warcraft/forum/general_forum/starcraft_forum_/83879/page1.html)Show nested quote +Best fix for all this and to fix windows 7 freezing i've used is as follows. I've been using this for ages and ages weeks on iccup and have played nearly 70 games this season day to day and its working without freezing anymore. make a .bat file with this in it: cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Games\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Games\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit The batch file should use windows compatibility mode for XP sp3 and 640x480 resolution the rest doesn't matter. But! In starcraft because everyone has multi core systems now but the tricky thing is windows 7 is a bit different in that under Speed - Enable CPU Throttling disable this not enable even though it sound like it should be helpful it does the opposite in windows 7. Also under Video: Enable Color Cycling should be OFF (this means water doesn't change color and stuff nothing important) And Disable Unit Portraits. So, use a batchfile setting affinity to your 1st core for Iccup launcher which in turn makes starcraft only use the 1st core as you use the Launcher to launch starcraft not manually. This disable CPU throttling as we set the affinity ourselves and it would only cause crashes. Now turn off Color Cycling & Unit Portraits. All this and in Windows 7 on a dual core Intel I stopped crashing completely. I used to crash all the time and tested all the combinations of things and all these seem to make it fine. You can tab in and out as much as you like, your resolution will switch fine to your normal desktop resolution i.e. I use 1900x1200. I even use dual monitors and put stuff on my second monitor like films or youtube or desktop gadgets and its fine. Only unit portraits 'might' be alright to turn back on but I didn't test as I never cared about it anyways. Anyways enjoy. Note: The pings to yourself are just for a delay to allow explorer to completely close as an indication before you should launch starcraft. I tested the 98/Me compatibility but it causes a problem with connecting to Iccup and stuff iirc. That 98/Me would fix the colors by itself but do it in the above way for the most stable solution I've experienced. Mine hasn't crashed, had weird colors, or done anything funky since I began using this file.
mkay, for those of us on TL who ARENT cs majors, can someone explain exactly how to do this .bat and coding stuff? i dont know enough about the problem to apply the solution X_X
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On February 07 2010 08:39 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2010 05:24 hasuprotoss wrote:Best fix I've found (courtesy of http://www.iccup.com/warcraft/forum/general_forum/starcraft_forum_/83879/page1.html)Best fix for all this and to fix windows 7 freezing i've used is as follows. I've been using this for ages and ages weeks on iccup and have played nearly 70 games this season day to day and its working without freezing anymore. make a .bat file with this in it: cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Games\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Games\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit The batch file should use windows compatibility mode for XP sp3 and 640x480 resolution the rest doesn't matter. But! In starcraft because everyone has multi core systems now but the tricky thing is windows 7 is a bit different in that under Speed - Enable CPU Throttling disable this not enable even though it sound like it should be helpful it does the opposite in windows 7. Also under Video: Enable Color Cycling should be OFF (this means water doesn't change color and stuff nothing important) And Disable Unit Portraits. So, use a batchfile setting affinity to your 1st core for Iccup launcher which in turn makes starcraft only use the 1st core as you use the Launcher to launch starcraft not manually. This disable CPU throttling as we set the affinity ourselves and it would only cause crashes. Now turn off Color Cycling & Unit Portraits. All this and in Windows 7 on a dual core Intel I stopped crashing completely. I used to crash all the time and tested all the combinations of things and all these seem to make it fine. You can tab in and out as much as you like, your resolution will switch fine to your normal desktop resolution i.e. I use 1900x1200. I even use dual monitors and put stuff on my second monitor like films or youtube or desktop gadgets and its fine. Only unit portraits 'might' be alright to turn back on but I didn't test as I never cared about it anyways. Anyways enjoy. Note: The pings to yourself are just for a delay to allow explorer to completely close as an indication before you should launch starcraft. I tested the 98/Me compatibility but it causes a problem with connecting to Iccup and stuff iirc. That 98/Me would fix the colors by itself but do it in the above way for the most stable solution I've experienced. Mine hasn't crashed, had weird colors, or done anything funky since I began using this file. mkay, for those of us on TL who ARENT cs majors, can someone explain exactly how to do this .bat and coding stuff? i dont know enough about the problem to apply the solution X_X
Open notepad copy the ENTIRE section in the CODE window into the notepad. Under File click save as, change the file type from text file to all formats then type in a name like "Kill.bat" as long as it has the .bat at the end of it. Save it and run it.
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On February 07 2010 05:24 hasuprotoss wrote:Best fix I've found (courtesy of http://www.iccup.com/warcraft/forum/general_forum/starcraft_forum_/83879/page1.html)Show nested quote +Best fix for all this and to fix windows 7 freezing i've used is as follows. I've been using this for ages and ages weeks on iccup and have played nearly 70 games this season day to day and its working without freezing anymore. make a .bat file with this in it: cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Games\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Games\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit The batch file should use windows compatibility mode for XP sp3 and 640x480 resolution the rest doesn't matter. But! In starcraft because everyone has multi core systems now but the tricky thing is windows 7 is a bit different in that under Speed - Enable CPU Throttling disable this not enable even though it sound like it should be helpful it does the opposite in windows 7. Also under Video: Enable Color Cycling should be OFF (this means water doesn't change color and stuff nothing important) And Disable Unit Portraits. So, use a batchfile setting affinity to your 1st core for Iccup launcher which in turn makes starcraft only use the 1st core as you use the Launcher to launch starcraft not manually. This disable CPU throttling as we set the affinity ourselves and it would only cause crashes. Now turn off Color Cycling & Unit Portraits. All this and in Windows 7 on a dual core Intel I stopped crashing completely. I used to crash all the time and tested all the combinations of things and all these seem to make it fine. You can tab in and out as much as you like, your resolution will switch fine to your normal desktop resolution i.e. I use 1900x1200. I even use dual monitors and put stuff on my second monitor like films or youtube or desktop gadgets and its fine. Only unit portraits 'might' be alright to turn back on but I didn't test as I never cared about it anyways. Anyways enjoy. Note: The pings to yourself are just for a delay to allow explorer to completely close as an indication before you should launch starcraft. I tested the 98/Me compatibility but it causes a problem with connecting to Iccup and stuff iirc. That 98/Me would fix the colors by itself but do it in the above way for the most stable solution I've experienced. Mine hasn't crashed, had weird colors, or done anything funky since I began using this file.
I personally would like to hear R1CH or someone's opinion on this before thinking this is the end-of-all-problems solution
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On February 07 2010 08:56 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2010 05:24 hasuprotoss wrote:Best fix I've found (courtesy of http://www.iccup.com/warcraft/forum/general_forum/starcraft_forum_/83879/page1.html)Best fix for all this and to fix windows 7 freezing i've used is as follows. I've been using this for ages and ages weeks on iccup and have played nearly 70 games this season day to day and its working without freezing anymore. make a .bat file with this in it: cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Games\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Games\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit The batch file should use windows compatibility mode for XP sp3 and 640x480 resolution the rest doesn't matter. But! In starcraft because everyone has multi core systems now but the tricky thing is windows 7 is a bit different in that under Speed - Enable CPU Throttling disable this not enable even though it sound like it should be helpful it does the opposite in windows 7. Also under Video: Enable Color Cycling should be OFF (this means water doesn't change color and stuff nothing important) And Disable Unit Portraits. So, use a batchfile setting affinity to your 1st core for Iccup launcher which in turn makes starcraft only use the 1st core as you use the Launcher to launch starcraft not manually. This disable CPU throttling as we set the affinity ourselves and it would only cause crashes. Now turn off Color Cycling & Unit Portraits. All this and in Windows 7 on a dual core Intel I stopped crashing completely. I used to crash all the time and tested all the combinations of things and all these seem to make it fine. You can tab in and out as much as you like, your resolution will switch fine to your normal desktop resolution i.e. I use 1900x1200. I even use dual monitors and put stuff on my second monitor like films or youtube or desktop gadgets and its fine. Only unit portraits 'might' be alright to turn back on but I didn't test as I never cared about it anyways. Anyways enjoy. Note: The pings to yourself are just for a delay to allow explorer to completely close as an indication before you should launch starcraft. I tested the 98/Me compatibility but it causes a problem with connecting to Iccup and stuff iirc. That 98/Me would fix the colors by itself but do it in the above way for the most stable solution I've experienced. Mine hasn't crashed, had weird colors, or done anything funky since I began using this file. I personally would like to hear R1CH or someone's opinion on this before thinking this is the end-of-all-problems solution
This doesn't solve the problem as stated on http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/4e83dac8-8d4d-4dad-9f1d-e08fa2fe1e48?prof=required&wa=wsignin1.0
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cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 E:\"Program Files (x86)\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
cd C:\Juegos\Starcraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Juegos\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit
Obviusly remove my directory with yours.
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On February 02 2010 10:05 R1CH wrote:
It is as much Blizzard's fault as Microsoft's, SC should have been updated a long time ago to do proper 32 bit rendering say, oh 10 years ago when everyone had video cards that could do more than 256 colors. How many other programs designed to Windows 95 specifications do you run on a daily basis?
It's very surprising that Blizzard doesn't really support SC any more despite its huge fan base, I guess WoW is the only product they pay much attention to since it brings in monthly revenue. It really shouldn't be that much work to change the rendering to use the desktop color depth.
Well WC3 just got a patch a few days ago 
But it is very sad how SC gets very little support.
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God its hilarious to see you guys theorize about things you have no clue about.
I've had fun playing Starcraft on Windows 7 for almost 6 months now without a hitch. Wanna know the only difference between you and me? Driver versions. I'm not saying you haven't tried updating or whatever but it really isn't microsoft's, blizzards, or ati/nvidia's fault. It's just an old game and its impossible for the people writing the drivers to test for every possible combination of software.
Now I get to sit back and laugh even more as 100 noobs cry about this post while pretending they know what they are talking about.
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On February 02 2010 10:05 R1CH wrote:
It is as much Blizzard's fault as Microsoft's, SC should have been updated a long time ago to do proper 32 bit rendering say, oh 10 years ago when everyone had video cards that could do more than 256 colors. How many other programs designed to Windows 95 specifications do you run on a daily basis?
It's very surprising that Blizzard doesn't really support SC any more despite its huge fan base, I guess WoW is the only product they pay much attention to since it brings in monthly revenue. It really shouldn't be that much work to change the rendering to use the desktop color depth.
Its very possible that they really don't know the issue exists. I remember back when that drone crash bug was big and they just had no idea that any problem like that was around. I realize Blizzard reads these forums more now than they did then, but its still possible they've overlooked this time and time again.
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I'm running W7 x64 and i crash very frequently when i have music in the background via foobar v.0.9.6.7. When i crash, BW splits up into 4 smaller images and rests at the top 1/4 of my screen. the other 3/4 of my screen becomes a static mixture of colors..
yeah my shit is fucked up.
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