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Hefty-Leopard-5240
Profile Joined September 2024
31 Posts
10 hours ago
#61
On November 05 2026 20:40 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2026 19:13 Hefty-Leopard-5240 wrote:
On November 05 2026 18:26 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2026 13:52 mathphyswithvic wrote:
On October 18 2026 23:40 ProTech wrote:
im up there sometimes but im back to bw until they do a patch that's coherent.

8 worker was starting to ramp up but then they reverted it back to what killed it in the first place.

play sc2 in sc1 queues


YOU ARE the only streamer that is featured on tl live streams that is there because of bracket and nothing else. Ever since you got there with under 100 apm no tactics and nothing impressive to show, it was because you were the only one playing 2v2. Remember this in the future.

p.s. you are the nepo baby of sc2 if there ever was an unskilled yet favored and pushed in front person in this community. worse then lastshadow and avilo combined.


I was featured after winning ptsl season 2, being on day9 and dj wheat podcasts. not whatever you're on about.
https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/254108-ptsl-season-2-invitational-pro-2v2-1200 can be found here. big deal at the time, not like now where there's literally 100k players playing. that time? over a mill. I can assure you simply by watching the vods of this tournament you can see that I don't play at 100apm, and the tactics are what put us over the finish line.

But, keep yackin' if it helps you feel better.




You really are a lightning rod for the Starcraft community. I wonder why you addressed the comment about 100 apm and the reason you are featured, but refuse even to address the overwhelming evidence of viewership tampering on your stream? You continue to talk about the ad revenue from spamming ads, but claim it doesn't pay when ads are shown to bots. Which is it? You only have a dozen at most real viewers on your best days. If you can't be honest about the fraudulent ad revenue, how can you be honest about the blocking of other players getting into games on the ladder?



Let's pretend you're correct about your accusations ( which you're not bots dont pay ad revenue period ) there are a million different reasons that viewership can look the way it looks. Raids, embeds, unique views, front page, more followers decided to watch there was even a period of time where Dragon was featured on pornhubs website which counts towards viewership. There's also " Legal viewbotting " which is practiced HEAVILY on MOBA guide websites where people will look for builds and will be counted as viewer because the embed is hidden and play the game as they follow the build.

What you fail to understand that is that even if you WERE correct ( let's hone in here, you're not ) twitch is fully aware of the issue and as we've seen multiple times throughout the course of streaming ( for me going on 17 years ) the platform gets gutted.

Pretending like you've some how come up with " damning evidence " is anecdotal at best and the only way you could EVER prove that someone was viewbotting their own streams you'd likely go to jail for as you'd have to use some pretty nefarious methods to prove it.

Twitch on multiple occasions have explicitly stated that they can't, and won't ban streamers for viewbotting because one of the 53,0000 followers I have COULD potentially be doing it and there isn't a way to actually prove it, other than whatever website you're using which again doesn't tell the whole story. These websites are made specifically for psychopaths like you that create the idea that it's totally okay to harass a stream via que-blocking, hacking and other harassment methods.

I know you are literally fuming that i've got an actual solution to your madness and it's keeping you up at a night. You should also tune in the next couple of days, I'll be securing my 15 years in thailand via my " Viewbot supporters. " That should really rustle your feathers



It's easy to look at those accounts made in July and Aug of 2025 that don't follow. They obviously aren't part of the massive "53,0000" followers you have.

Also, congratulations on securing your future.
just nemo
Profile Joined April 2025
43 Posts
9 hours ago
#62
On November 05 2026 20:52 Hefty-Leopard-5240 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2026 20:40 ProTech wrote:
On November 05 2026 19:13 Hefty-Leopard-5240 wrote:
On November 05 2026 18:26 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2026 13:52 mathphyswithvic wrote:
On October 18 2026 23:40 ProTech wrote:
im up there sometimes but im back to bw until they do a patch that's coherent.

8 worker was starting to ramp up but then they reverted it back to what killed it in the first place.

play sc2 in sc1 queues


YOU ARE the only streamer that is featured on tl live streams that is there because of bracket and nothing else. Ever since you got there with under 100 apm no tactics and nothing impressive to show, it was because you were the only one playing 2v2. Remember this in the future.

p.s. you are the nepo baby of sc2 if there ever was an unskilled yet favored and pushed in front person in this community. worse then lastshadow and avilo combined.


I was featured after winning ptsl season 2, being on day9 and dj wheat podcasts. not whatever you're on about.
https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/254108-ptsl-season-2-invitational-pro-2v2-1200 can be found here. big deal at the time, not like now where there's literally 100k players playing. that time? over a mill. I can assure you simply by watching the vods of this tournament you can see that I don't play at 100apm, and the tactics are what put us over the finish line.

But, keep yackin' if it helps you feel better.




You really are a lightning rod for the Starcraft community. I wonder why you addressed the comment about 100 apm and the reason you are featured, but refuse even to address the overwhelming evidence of viewership tampering on your stream? You continue to talk about the ad revenue from spamming ads, but claim it doesn't pay when ads are shown to bots. Which is it? You only have a dozen at most real viewers on your best days. If you can't be honest about the fraudulent ad revenue, how can you be honest about the blocking of other players getting into games on the ladder?



Let's pretend you're correct about your accusations ( which you're not bots dont pay ad revenue period ) there are a million different reasons that viewership can look the way it looks. Raids, embeds, unique views, front page, more followers decided to watch there was even a period of time where Dragon was featured on pornhubs website which counts towards viewership. There's also " Legal viewbotting " which is practiced HEAVILY on MOBA guide websites where people will look for builds and will be counted as viewer because the embed is hidden and play the game as they follow the build.

What you fail to understand that is that even if you WERE correct ( let's hone in here, you're not ) twitch is fully aware of the issue and as we've seen multiple times throughout the course of streaming ( for me going on 17 years ) the platform gets gutted.

Pretending like you've some how come up with " damning evidence " is anecdotal at best and the only way you could EVER prove that someone was viewbotting their own streams you'd likely go to jail for as you'd have to use some pretty nefarious methods to prove it.

Twitch on multiple occasions have explicitly stated that they can't, and won't ban streamers for viewbotting because one of the 53,0000 followers I have COULD potentially be doing it and there isn't a way to actually prove it, other than whatever website you're using which again doesn't tell the whole story. These websites are made specifically for psychopaths like you that create the idea that it's totally okay to harass a stream via que-blocking, hacking and other harassment methods.

I know you are literally fuming that i've got an actual solution to your madness and it's keeping you up at a night. You should also tune in the next couple of days, I'll be securing my 15 years in thailand via my " Viewbot supporters. " That should really rustle your feathers



It's easy to look at those accounts made in July and Aug of 2025 that don't follow. They obviously aren't part of the massive "53,0000" followers you have.

Also, congratulations on securing your future.
get a room
ZlatanK
Profile Joined November 2026
3 Posts
8 hours ago
#63
I think it's mostly that discovery moved elsewhere. Ten years ago the TL stream list was how you found someone to watch. Now Twitch and YouTube recommendations do that, and smaller streamers don't need to register anywhere. The weekly cups being the main "live" content fits that too: an event gives people a reason to tune in at a specific time, and a random ladder stream doesn't.

Arcade streamers might be the interesting part, like the OP said. Custom maps are one of the few areas in SC2 that still feel new, and that audience isn't necessarily the same one that watches GSL.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-11-05 15:35:41
6 hours ago
#64
On November 05 2026 18:26 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2026 13:52 mathphyswithvic wrote:
On October 18 2026 23:40 ProTech wrote:
im up there sometimes but im back to bw until they do a patch that's coherent.

8 worker was starting to ramp up but then they reverted it back to what killed it in the first place.

play sc2 in sc1 queues


YOU ARE the only streamer that is featured on tl live streams that is there because of bracket and nothing else. Ever since you got there with under 100 apm no tactics and nothing impressive to show, it was because you were the only one playing 2v2. Remember this in the future.

p.s. you are the nepo baby of sc2 if there ever was an unskilled yet favored and pushed in front person in this community. worse then lastshadow and avilo combined.


I was featured after winning ptsl season 2, being on day9 and dj wheat podcasts. not whatever you're on about.
https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/254108-ptsl-season-2-invitational-pro-2v2-1200 can be found here. big deal at the time, not like now where there's literally 100k players playing. that time? over a mill. I can assure you simply by watching the vods of this tournament you can see that I don't play at 100apm, and the tactics are what put us over the finish line.

But, keep yackin' if it helps you feel better.


I'm pretty sure Power was a hacker. Yes, you won PTSL, but your teammate was sketchy af.
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