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EPT Summer/Dallas 2024 - Brackets & Groups

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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden985 Posts
May 28 2024 19:39 GMT
#1
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 28 2024 19:53 GMT
#2
I think herO about to PvZ his way to the playoffs.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
May 28 2024 20:48 GMT
#3
I'm sad we didn't get open bracket Serral, it would have been a fun story to follow. Wonder what Serral's cooked up in ZvP for the new maps, or if he'll just try and coast off of his base skill.

Excited to see what Rogue brings to the table, he lost in Code S but looked decent. I doubt he'll beat Solar, but Elazer and Skillous will be good tests.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
May 28 2024 21:08 GMT
#4
So much KR vs KR in the open bracket is unfortunate. I would like to actually get to see a lot of mid tier KR vs mid tier EU and NA for once. Seems the brackets always work out this way though.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
May 28 2024 21:21 GMT
#5
wait so Serral is actually going to be there?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-29 00:24:16
May 29 2024 00:23 GMT
#6
On May 29 2024 06:08 JJH777 wrote:
So much KR vs KR in the open bracket is unfortunate. I would like to actually get to see a lot of mid tier KR vs mid tier EU and NA for once. Seems the brackets always work out this way though.


Honestly I think you'll get plenty, considering it's impossible to advance in the open bracket to playoffs without eventually playing a korean.

As an aside, I'm expecting Koreans to completely wreck face this tournament. KR v KR finals. Likely Maru-herO again unless they knock each other out before.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1354 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-29 01:35:28
May 29 2024 01:29 GMT
#7
There are definetly some interesting storylines here:
- Technically this is Marus tournament to lose...can he *finally* win something outside of Asia?
- How in form is Serral? While Nice should be doable, herO/Reynor is already tough. Generally curious to see how good he works through the Knockout Stage/if he can take Bo5s.
- Can Reynor beat his downwards spiral?
- Will herO capitalize?
- How good is Rogue by now?
- Should Maru fail as usual, the next in line to win it should be Clem...another ESL-win for him?

Sadly, Showtime won't be around. He really could have used the points to maybe overtake Spirit? Now it seems almost guaranteed that he will have to slug through the Qualifier if he wants to make it to Riyhad...

On May 29 2024 06:08 JJH777 wrote:
So much KR vs KR in the open bracket is unfortunate. I would like to actually get to see a lot of mid tier KR vs mid tier EU and NA for once. Seems the brackets always work out this way though.



"So much" are two (if I counted correctly) matches out of 16 in the Open Bracket, one more in the Winner Bracket...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3514 Posts
May 29 2024 02:49 GMT
#8
My prediction:
Winner Bracket: Clem - Maru - herO - Dark
Open Bracket: Gumi - Creator - Solar - Skillous - Byun - DRG - Bunny - Nightmare.

While I think Maru and Serral are the more favorite as usual, Dark might be the one who can get a run going. We want a Zerg to win so that nothing will change until EWC.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1263 Posts
May 29 2024 03:31 GMT
#9
It's this week already? Hype.

On May 29 2024 10:29 Balnazza wrote:
There are definetly some interesting storylines here:
- Technically this is Marus tournament to lose...can he *finally* win something outside of Asia?
- How in form is Serral? While Nice should be doable, herO/Reynor is already tough. Generally curious to see how good he works through the Knockout Stage/if he can take Bo5s.
- Can Reynor beat his downwards spiral?
- Will herO capitalize?
- How good is Rogue by now?
- Should Maru fail as usual, the next in line to win it should be Clem...another ESL-win for him?

Pretty much this. Mostly excited to see Serral. Wondering what opportunity he had to practice at all. On paper, Maru must be the favorite now, with Serral having been taken out by the service. Anyway, we might see a good story.
Mutation complete.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7372 Posts
May 29 2024 11:42 GMT
#10
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7372 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-29 11:48:40
May 29 2024 11:48 GMT
#11
My prediction:
Winner Bracket: Clem - Maru - Serral - Cure
Open Bracket: Gumi - Creator??? - Solar - Skillous - Byun - DRG - Bunny - Nightmare???

While Creator/ Nightmare are the favorites I absolutely can see them failing and don't be too surprised

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
chrusher97
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada811 Posts
May 29 2024 20:13 GMT
#12
[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this. Mostly excited to see Serral. Wondering what opportunity he had to practice at all. On paper, Maru must be the favorite now, with Serral having been taken out by the service. Anyway, we might see a good story.[/QUOTE]

Hasnt it only been like 2 months since he 4-0 maru? I doubt his shape could change that much since then. And its not like zerg has to practice build orders and stuff
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1263 Posts
May 29 2024 21:34 GMT
#13
On May 30 2024 05:13 chrusher97 wrote:
Show nested quote +

Pretty much this. Mostly excited to see Serral. Wondering what opportunity he had to practice at all. On paper, Maru must be the favorite now, with Serral having been taken out by the service. Anyway, we might see a good story.

Hasnt it only been like 2 months since he 4-0 maru? I doubt his shape could change that much since then. And its not like zerg has to practice build orders and stuff

True, he's still Serral, so he will be very good at worst.

However, it has been three months of limited time to play, plus a new patch, plus new maps, plus the general distraction caused by the military routine during the week. This will certainly have some impact. Also, it's wrong to say that zerg doesn't have to practice build orders at all. In fact, remember that two of his wins at Katowice against Maru were sharply executed specific builds.

Anyway, we'll find out about his form soon enough.
Mutation complete.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
May 29 2024 22:15 GMT
#14
Depending on form, Clem might be the favorite, or herO?
Zergs are probably gonna show up for the big $ tournament and let T/P win the small stuff as usual :
WriterMaru
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1958 Posts
May 30 2024 09:28 GMT
#15
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-30 15:44:34
May 30 2024 15:39 GMT
#16
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Lol don't suggest to Solar it unless it is because of military service. Otherwise, Korean Zerg talents will be extinct with Soo, Dark, Rogue, DRG and Shin are the only competitive programmers left in the scene. Now, I am missing Impact who is always making regular appearance in Code S.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-30 15:48:30
May 30 2024 15:47 GMT
#17
Edited, double posting.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-30 16:36:59
May 30 2024 16:36 GMT
#18
How did Serral qualify?
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1354 Posts
May 30 2024 17:46 GMT
#19
On May 31 2024 01:36 Acrofales wrote:
How did Serral qualify?


Two slots are given away through the Global Standings, that's how Dark and Serral qualified
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
May 30 2024 19:37 GMT
#20
On May 31 2024 00:39 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Lol don't suggest to Solar it unless it is because of military service. Otherwise, Korean Zerg talents will be extinct with Soo, Dark, Rogue, DRG and Shin are the only competitive programmers left in the scene. Now, I am missing Impact who is always making regular appearance in Code S.


Rogue did 2-0 Reynor in the Korean ESL cup this week! But I'm sure everyone is sandbagging it so close to this tournament...
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1958 Posts
May 30 2024 21:03 GMT
#21
On May 31 2024 04:37 SoleSteeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 00:39 swarminfestor wrote:
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Lol don't suggest to Solar it unless it is because of military service. Otherwise, Korean Zerg talents will be extinct with Soo, Dark, Rogue, DRG and Shin are the only competitive programmers left in the scene. Now, I am missing Impact who is always making regular appearance in Code S.


Rogue did 2-0 Reynor in the Korean ESL cup this week! But I'm sure everyone is sandbagging it so close to this tournament...


All kinds of wacky shit goes on early in those tournaments.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
May 31 2024 09:48 GMT
#22
On May 31 2024 04:37 SoleSteeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 00:39 swarminfestor wrote:
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Lol don't suggest to Solar it unless it is because of military service. Otherwise, Korean Zerg talents will be extinct with Soo, Dark, Rogue, DRG and Shin are the only competitive programmers left in the scene. Now, I am missing Impact who is always making regular appearance in Code S.


Rogue did 2-0 Reynor in the Korean ESL cup this week! But I'm sure everyone is sandbagging it so close to this tournament...


Ah yes, ESL cups. Reynor is famous for taking those super seriously! But in all fairness, Solar vs Rogue will be pretty interesting. Rogue should be capable of all the same shenanigans DRG did vs Solar. On the other hand, Rogue got styled on by Dark, and I'd normally rate Solar over Dark in ZvZ atm (despite his loss vs DRG shaking that belief).
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 31 2024 10:07 GMT
#23
What are people putting for power rank?

Me:

1. Maru
2. Clem
3. herO
4. Dark
5. Serral
6. Cure

And then I think a bunch of players below that are roughly equal.

Honestly expecting Serral to still be good but not uh championship-winning form. Then I think Maru and Clem are going to be the two best players but Maru will have the edge in TvT.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2274 Posts
May 31 2024 10:08 GMT
#24
Really tough bracket for the captain, doubt he will make it through :/
Cogito, ergo Toss
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16087 Posts
May 31 2024 12:09 GMT
#25
On May 31 2024 19:07 Pandain wrote:
What are people putting for power rank?

Me:

1. Maru
2. Clem
3. herO
4. Dark
5. Serral
6. Cure

And then I think a bunch of players below that are roughly equal.

Honestly expecting Serral to still be good but not uh championship-winning form. Then I think Maru and Clem are going to be the two best players but Maru will have the edge in TvT.

Isn't Serral still able to practice a decent amount? I expect him to still be in great form, he wasn't the kind of player who grinds 8h/day anyway
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 31 2024 12:22 GMT
#26
On May 31 2024 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 19:07 Pandain wrote:
What are people putting for power rank?

Me:

1. Maru
2. Clem
3. herO
4. Dark
5. Serral
6. Cure

And then I think a bunch of players below that are roughly equal.

Honestly expecting Serral to still be good but not uh championship-winning form. Then I think Maru and Clem are going to be the two best players but Maru will have the edge in TvT.

Isn't Serral still able to practice a decent amount? I expect him to still be in great form, he wasn't the kind of player who grinds 8h/day anyway


I think it's really an unknown, but clear that he's able to practice significantly more than the Korean military, where you have almost no time. We'll find out from interviews soon.
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands684 Posts
May 31 2024 13:24 GMT
#27
On May 31 2024 19:08 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Really tough bracket for the captain, doubt he will make it through :/


But we can dream!

To be honest, solid underdogs are the main reason I'm watching tourneys. Once it boils down to the regulars (Maru, Serral, Clem, etc) I tend to lose focus a bit.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 13:44:19
May 31 2024 13:43 GMT
#28
On May 31 2024 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 19:07 Pandain wrote:
What are people putting for power rank?

Me:

1. Maru
2. Clem
3. herO
4. Dark
5. Serral
6. Cure

And then I think a bunch of players below that are roughly equal.

Honestly expecting Serral to still be good but not uh championship-winning form. Then I think Maru and Clem are going to be the two best players but Maru will have the edge in TvT.

Isn't Serral still able to practice a decent amount? I expect him to still be in great form, he wasn't the kind of player who grinds 8h/day anyway

In the one match Serral played (vs Coffee) he looked a bit sloppy in the first game and crushed the second game. I would imagine that even if Serral's level is still high, only playing 1 competitive match for months would make him a bit shaky in tournament play.

That being said, Kato Serral was a monster - probably one of the single highest peaks we've seen of anyone in SC2. Serral at 90% of his Kato form would still be a slight favorite to win.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
May 31 2024 17:04 GMT
#29
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Well said, GG Solar
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7372 Posts
May 31 2024 18:07 GMT
#30
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Would you like to rephrase that?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 18:20:33
May 31 2024 18:16 GMT
#31
On June 01 2024 03:07 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Would you like to rephrase that?


Every time I give him any credit he loses. Losing this way is such a Solar thing to do.

I talked about Solar and his awful time in Proleague in this article: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/562437-the-good-the-bad-and-ridiculous-of-proleague-pt-1
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
May 31 2024 18:26 GMT
#32
On June 01 2024 03:16 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 03:07 Harris1st wrote:
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:
On May 29 2024 20:42 Harris1st wrote:
On May 29 2024 04:39 Kreuger wrote:
Both Winners and Open are filled:

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Open Stage

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2023/24/Masters/Spring/Winners Stage


Solar vs Rogue in the first game in bracket B is rough :p


Ufff. Gumiho gets a Marsbar and Solar gets Rogue... Dayum


If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.


Would you like to rephrase that?


Every time I give him any credit he loses. Losing this way is such a Solar thing to do.

I talked about Solar and his awful time in Proleague in this article: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/562437-the-good-the-bad-and-ridiculous-of-proleague-pt-1

Solar the GOAT player to put on your anti-team in FPL
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 19:45:04
May 31 2024 19:44 GMT
#33
Rooting for Clem
WriterMaru
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 21:25:36
May 31 2024 21:17 GMT
#34
Trigger looks so nervous. Poor kid. Lets hope he can keep it under control and fight vs Dark, but I don't really believe the way Feardragon does.

E: lol, ouch. That was brutal. The reason Nydus didn't work that well vs Stats is clearly that he needed more queens.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
May 31 2024 21:56 GMT
#35
On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:

If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.



A truly bizarre comment.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
May 31 2024 22:45 GMT
#36
Honestly, Rogue slapping Solar twice is a bit embarrassing for Solar.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1958 Posts
June 01 2024 00:04 GMT
#37
On June 01 2024 06:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:
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On May 30 2024 18:28 Mizenhauer wrote:

If Solar (who won GSL last year) can't beat Rogue (who has been playing for a month or so and looks as bad as every other military returnee when they get back) he should just call it a career.



A truly bizarre comment.


It really is. I've been watching this game far too long to actually believe Solar would win.
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Christof
Profile Joined June 2023
8 Posts
June 01 2024 14:37 GMT
#38
How was serral vs her0? Cause her0 looked really good vs reynor then got 2-0 by serral?


Or just reynor his form?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
June 01 2024 14:48 GMT
#39
On June 01 2024 23:37 Christof wrote:
How was serral vs her0? Cause her0 looked really good vs reynor then got 2-0 by serral?


Or just reynor his form?

Serral did Serral things. Game 2 in particular was an exciting game if you want to rewatch it.
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