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Cloud9 Signs GuMiho

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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1985 Posts
November 01 2023 01:39 GMT
#1
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10125 Posts
November 01 2023 01:49 GMT
#2
gratz Gumigod but.... + Show Spoiler +
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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
November 01 2023 02:31 GMT
#3
Congrats to Gumiho. I wonder if this is a one-off or if C9 sees value in creating a SC2 team.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 01 2023 02:50 GMT
#4
Oh shit this is quite huge.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-01 02:59:44
November 01 2023 02:58 GMT
#5
I'm sorry what?

Well congrats to Gumi and welcome Cloud 9
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4230 Posts
November 01 2023 03:08 GMT
#6
Huh. I wonder if this pickup is because they find SC2 cost-efficent or if there's rumblings of new stuff on the horizon. Probably the former.... hopefully the latter.

Anyway grats Gumiho and C9!
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13015 Posts
November 01 2023 03:09 GMT
#7
Gg Gumiho and c9
WriterMaru
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7190 Posts
November 01 2023 03:24 GMT
#8
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10381 Posts
November 01 2023 03:38 GMT
#9
Whoa, pretty big sponsor, congrats!
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5639 Posts
November 01 2023 04:48 GMT
#10
Nine tails for Cloud Nine, nice!
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-01 05:38:08
November 01 2023 05:33 GMT
#11
Cloud 9 can finance a whole CS team and else, so funding a SC2 player is peanuts in comparaison. Gotta see in the near future

But it begs the question why existing SC2 teams did not ...
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
November 01 2023 06:01 GMT
#12
Pretty unexpected! Let's go Gumiho, win that GSL.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
November 01 2023 06:24 GMT
#13
Awesome.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
November 01 2023 06:42 GMT
#14
what the fuck lol. Grats gumi!!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1236 Posts
November 01 2023 07:45 GMT
#15
WOOOOOOWWWWWWW
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
November 01 2023 09:17 GMT
#16
https://cloud9.gg/players/pyungjae-koh/

"Pyungjae “GuMiho” Koh is a professional StarCraft II Terran player from South Korea. He has an impressive record of achievements including a 1st place finish in 2017 Global StarCraft II League Season 2: Code S and a 2nd place finish in ESL SC2 Masters 2023 Summer. To date, GuMiho is the only player to achieve an all-kill in the Global StarCraft II Team League Finals when he completed a sweep of SlayerS-EG. GuMiho is most known for his innovative and meta breaking Terran builds and is committed to always pushing the limits of Terran and himself to win.

Yeah, I don't see anyone breaking that record anytime soon.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Caprasa
Profile Joined November 2023
8 Posts
November 01 2023 09:55 GMT
#17
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13015 Posts
November 01 2023 12:45 GMT
#18
On November 01 2023 18:55 Caprasa wrote:
Is Cloud9 still relevant?

I don’t know for other esports, but in LoL they are from NA so they lose in international events each and every year. At least, they are relevant domestically and have a large fan base
They had Mango in smash iirc
WriterMaru
ReindeerDue6133
Profile Joined November 2023
1 Post
November 01 2023 13:18 GMT
#19
Hi it Mikey
JustTTimberlake
Profile Joined December 2022
8 Posts
November 01 2023 13:27 GMT
#20
skillous too stronk for cloud9 legend
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1347 Posts
November 01 2023 14:26 GMT
#21
On November 01 2023 14:33 Philippe wrote:
Cloud 9 can finance a whole CS team and else, so funding a SC2 player is peanuts in comparaison. Gotta see in the near future

But it begs the question why existing SC2 teams did not ...


Well, he left Psistorm because they couldn't afford his salary anymore (or rather couldn't "pay him the salary he deserves" in their own words), so I guess no one wanted or could pay that kind of money?
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
November 01 2023 14:30 GMT
#22
On November 01 2023 18:17 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
https://cloud9.gg/players/pyungjae-koh/

"Pyungjae “GuMiho” Koh is a professional StarCraft II Terran player from South Korea. He has an impressive record of achievements including a 1st place finish in 2017 Global StarCraft II League Season 2: Code S and a 2nd place finish in ESL SC2 Masters 2023 Summer. To date, GuMiho is the only player to achieve an all-kill in the Global StarCraft II Team League Finals when he completed a sweep of SlayerS-EG. GuMiho is most known for his innovative and meta breaking Terran builds and is committed to always pushing the limits of Terran and himself to win.

Yeah, I don't see anyone breaking that record anytime soon.


The only tournament that we can compare with is the playoff of WTL but it is different mainly because of online setups. So, it is definitely a legit argument.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
MM-yingxiong
Profile Joined January 2021
Serbia30 Posts
November 01 2023 15:22 GMT
#23
is this because of a new gamers8 format? otherwise why would c9 enter sc2 in 2023
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
November 01 2023 15:42 GMT
#24
On November 01 2023 18:55 Caprasa wrote:
Is Cloud9 still relevant?

For sure. They have a franchise in valorant. That was actually recently marred by cost cutting headlines so surprising to see them enter a new realm lol.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
November 01 2023 16:19 GMT
#25
On November 01 2023 12:08 lestye wrote:
Huh. I wonder if this pickup is because they find SC2 cost-efficent or if there's rumblings of new stuff on the horizon. Probably the former.... hopefully the latter.

Anyway grats Gumiho and C9!

C9 knows that's SC3 is being announced this weekend at blizzcon.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 01 2023 17:22 GMT
#26
Cloud 9....that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Interesting that they decided to pick a sc2 player
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veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
81 Posts
November 01 2023 18:34 GMT
#27
Like everyone else, I'm happily confused.

My best guess:
1. Profit in SC2 is small, but investment is tiny.
2. Saudi esports world cup.
Freeedom
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-01 22:07:21
November 01 2023 22:05 GMT
#28
On November 01 2023 23:26 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2023 14:33 Philippe wrote:
Cloud 9 can finance a whole CS team and else, so funding a SC2 player is peanuts in comparaison. Gotta see in the near future

But it begs the question why existing SC2 teams did not ...


Well, he left Psistorm because they couldn't afford his salary anymore (or rather couldn't "pay him the salary he deserves" in their own words), so I guess no one wanted or could pay that kind of money?


NO.

We gave him raises. He asked for another shortly after a raise but it was too high we couldn't afford it. So he decided not to continue.

He bet on himself as I mentioned, and it took months but he presumably got what he wanted. I've always said he deserved it and support him if you check my tweets.

Best to him and C9, and this is great news for GuMiho and SC2 in general.
PSISTORM Gaming owner - twitter.com/karljayg - facebook.com/KJfreeedom
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1985 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-01 22:18:11
November 01 2023 22:15 GMT
#29
Mods why'd you change my title from Gumiho joins Cloud9 to Cloud9 signs Gumiho that's such a weird subtle change to make I hate the word 'signs' when referring to esport pickups I would never title my post that
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 01 2023 22:28 GMT
#30
Extremely exciting news but it definitely begs the question...why now?
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1347 Posts
November 01 2023 22:38 GMT
#31
On November 02 2023 07:05 Freeedom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2023 23:26 Balnazza wrote:
On November 01 2023 14:33 Philippe wrote:
Cloud 9 can finance a whole CS team and else, so funding a SC2 player is peanuts in comparaison. Gotta see in the near future

But it begs the question why existing SC2 teams did not ...


Well, he left Psistorm because they couldn't afford his salary anymore (or rather couldn't "pay him the salary he deserves" in their own words), so I guess no one wanted or could pay that kind of money?


NO.

We gave him raises. He asked for another shortly after a raise but it was too high we couldn't afford it. So he decided not to continue.

He bet on himself as I mentioned, and it took months but he presumably got what he wanted. I've always said he deserved it and support him if you check my tweets.

Best to him and C9, and this is great news for GuMiho and SC2 in general.


Sorry if my post came around like I was suggesting there was any beef between Psi and Gumiho. I just wanted to point out that you specifically (and in good-will) said that you couldn't afford his salary-wishes and I assumed that these were a big reason he wasn't picked up by anyone else.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Freeedom
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
November 01 2023 22:50 GMT
#32
On November 02 2023 07:38 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2023 07:05 Freeedom wrote:
On November 01 2023 23:26 Balnazza wrote:
On November 01 2023 14:33 Philippe wrote:
Cloud 9 can finance a whole CS team and else, so funding a SC2 player is peanuts in comparaison. Gotta see in the near future

But it begs the question why existing SC2 teams did not ...


Well, he left Psistorm because they couldn't afford his salary anymore (or rather couldn't "pay him the salary he deserves" in their own words), so I guess no one wanted or could pay that kind of money?


NO.

We gave him raises. He asked for another shortly after a raise but it was too high we couldn't afford it. So he decided not to continue.

He bet on himself as I mentioned, and it took months but he presumably got what he wanted. I've always said he deserved it and support him if you check my tweets.

Best to him and C9, and this is great news for GuMiho and SC2 in general.


Sorry if my post came around like I was suggesting there was any beef between Psi and Gumiho. I just wanted to point out that you specifically (and in good-will) said that you couldn't afford his salary-wishes and I assumed that these were a big reason he wasn't picked up by anyone else.


All good. In the end it was best for everyone. Hopefully C9 forms a team for WTL.
PSISTORM Gaming owner - twitter.com/karljayg - facebook.com/KJfreeedom
Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States149 Posts
November 02 2023 05:46 GMT
#33
On November 01 2023 12:24 Luolis wrote:
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.


Do you guys know something about a Gamers8 next year that I don't know about? Is there a link anywhere?
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 02 2023 10:05 GMT
#34
On November 02 2023 14:46 Telephone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2023 12:24 Luolis wrote:
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.


Do you guys know something about a Gamers8 next year that I don't know about? Is there a link anywhere?


Nothing yet, but seems like they will announce a Esports League soon


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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1347 Posts
November 02 2023 14:31 GMT
#35
On November 02 2023 14:46 Telephone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2023 12:24 Luolis wrote:
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.


Do you guys know something about a Gamers8 next year that I don't know about? Is there a link anywhere?


There is not much concrete, but they way they teased it there is a possibility that it will be a cross-game tournament, so orgs will need a broad lineup to compete. And since RTS is listed as one of the genres they want to include, it makes sense to pick SC2
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Mjolnir.
Profile Joined October 2021
18 Posts
November 02 2023 15:27 GMT
#36
great news!!! hope they keep on investing
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33681 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-02 18:40:02
November 02 2023 18:39 GMT
#37
On November 02 2023 23:31 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2023 14:46 Telephone wrote:
On November 01 2023 12:24 Luolis wrote:
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.


Do you guys know something about a Gamers8 next year that I don't know about? Is there a link anywhere?


There is not much concrete, but they way they teased it there is a possibility that it will be a cross-game tournament, so orgs will need a broad lineup to compete. And since RTS is listed as one of the genres they want to include, it makes sense to pick SC2


They already had something like this in 2023, where there was a side prize pool (still in the millions) given to the teams/clubs with the best overall placement all across games. They're now shifting to make that overall team competition the main focus in 2024.
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
November 03 2023 02:58 GMT
#38
C9 investing in RTS means they have an eye on StormGate release.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7362 Posts
November 03 2023 10:01 GMT
#39
On November 03 2023 11:58 XenOsky wrote:
C9 investing in RTS means they have an eye on StormGate release.


Stormgate will not be a competitive and balanced game by the time this world cup takes place.
If we go by Gamers8 this will be some time in summer 2024
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3513 Posts
November 03 2023 10:12 GMT
#40
On November 03 2023 03:39 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2023 23:31 Balnazza wrote:
On November 02 2023 14:46 Telephone wrote:
On November 01 2023 12:24 Luolis wrote:
Bit torn on this. On the other hand cool for Gumiho and C9. On the other, you just know its because of that Saudi tournament coming up next year.


Do you guys know something about a Gamers8 next year that I don't know about? Is there a link anywhere?


There is not much concrete, but they way they teased it there is a possibility that it will be a cross-game tournament, so orgs will need a broad lineup to compete. And since RTS is listed as one of the genres they want to include, it makes sense to pick SC2


They already had something like this in 2023, where there was a side prize pool (still in the millions) given to the teams/clubs with the best overall placement all across games. They're now shifting to make that overall team competition the main focus in 2024.

Classic making Ro4 in Gamers8 net his team 400k or something, being 1st place team instead of 2nd place. So I wont be shocked if teams will start hiring SC2 players if they boost the prize next year for team award.
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