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Kreuger
Sweden383 Posts
https://twitter.com/ESLSC2/status/1666142964509179906?cxt=HHwWhICwiduMqp8uAAAA "Welcome to the Winners Stage🏆 Can’t wait to get this going🔥 How about starting the Summer Finals Day 1 broadcast with Maru vs Reynor? You know, just to get that Friday rolling" ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx9UMjkWABcuug5?format=jpg&name=medium) Schedule has been released aswell https://twitter.com/ESLSC2/status/1666901686017744912?cxt=HHwWoICz6Y6Qg6IuAAAA ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyIGP_3WYCEWwWn?format=jpg&name=medium) Talents ![[image loading]](https://scontent-cph2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/353813820_658093926345696_50378220440300367_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=IQRuztnOvcIAX-j_VSG&_nc_ht=scontent-cph2-1.xx&oh=00_AfBD3xnGR9fpFH6DPjcFhG8HgUdRayowsNfffTTjNcstIw&oe=648B93BA) Open Stage Brackets https://twitter.com/ESLSC2/status/1669049612307423244?cxt=HHwWmICz4fDx06kuAAAA ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fymnw7oWYAMezAH?format=jpg&name=medium) ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymnxL4WYA8dqJQ?format=jpg&name=medium) ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymnxgKWYBcP71V?format=jpg&name=medium) ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymnxxRWYAUOgnu?format=jpg&name=medium) 
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Kreuger
Sweden383 Posts
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lechatnoir
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dysenterymd
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JJH777
United States4135 Posts
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MrBrown
4 Posts
On June 07 2023 06:28 JJH777 wrote: How does Serral almost always get the easiest possible opponent in the first round? Seeding. Winners get easy opponents. | ||
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tigera6
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Philippe
189 Posts
On June 07 2023 06:28 JJH777 wrote: How does Serral almost always get the easiest possible opponent in the first round? Taking the problem from another angle, anything else would be unfair to him given how the standings are. #1 vs a player at the bottom of the directly seeded players ? | ||
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datastuff
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dysenterymd
948 Posts
On June 07 2023 21:03 datastuff wrote: Maru is #1 seed. KR points are worth more rn bc they're through less of the season. Also the reason solar/gumi are invited over lambo/kela Reynor has fewer EU points (427) than Coffee has Asia points (455), so Reynor is a lower seed than Coffee I think and that's why #1 seed Maru was matched against him. Which doesn't actually reflect skill of course, but outcomes like this are inevitable when you have three non-KR regions with very different skill levels. Giving fewer EPT for winning Americas/Asia than Europe sort of addresses this issue, but clearly not entirely. | ||
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datastuff
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Gina
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JJH777
United States4135 Posts
He's not always the first seed. In IEMs 2022 and 2021, he was only the 3rd and 4th seed and most would agree he got the weakest group in both those years. In Serral's first ever win in an event with Koreans he got the weakest foreigner in the first round. | ||
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BelethielQT
87 Posts
On June 07 2023 23:09 JJH777 wrote: He's not always the first seed. In IEMs 2022 and 2021, he was only the 3rd and 4th seed and most would agree he got the weakest group in both those years. In Serral's first ever win in an event with Koreans he got the weakest foreigner in the first round. But he won the Event with the koreans so the first round doesnt matter | ||
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TossHeroes
228 Posts
The bracket is due to seeding and points. It’s not that complicated. Why are Maru fans complaining lol? He is on the easier side of the bracket than Serral | ||
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Philippe
189 Posts
On June 08 2023 02:59 TossHeroes wrote: Lots of butthurt Serral haters on this thread lol The bracket is due to seeding and points. It’s not that complicated. Why are Maru fans complaining lol? He is on the easier side of the bracket than Serral Or they are preaching for their own favourite region (whether Asia, Europe, Korea, NA), which is making the bias bound to happen ah. | ||
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Kafka777
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JJH777
United States4135 Posts
On June 07 2023 23:41 BelethielQT wrote: But he won the Event with the koreans so the first round doesnt matter Every round of an event matters. Advancing over top players 5 times in a row is a lot more impressive than 3 times. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1636 Posts
I UNDERSTAND you dont want to RIG brackets But we get Koreans vs Foreigners in legit tournaments maybe 2-3x a year And yet more than half of the bracket are FvF or KvK Like I hate it so much its EVERY time | ||
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Balnazza
347 Posts
On June 08 2023 04:50 JJH777 wrote: Every round of an event matters. Advancing over top players 5 times in a row is a lot more impressive than 3 times. Please tell me you are not talking about GSL vs. the World '18, where Serral won 3-0 over Kelazhur and immediately after that destroyed Inno with the same score... But just to be sure: Do we have to check for every player how they advanced through a tournament, just to check if their wins are "impressive" enough? | ||
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