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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
April 26 2023 10:09 GMT
#21
The tiers could be further optimised for sure, but I think this is a great idea. It lets people who want to support the content show their support, without putting everything behind a paywall for those who don't want to pay/can't afford it.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
AxiomB
Profile Joined August 2016
69 Posts
April 26 2023 10:38 GMT
#22
I love you all and will try to the $30 one. LONG LIVE SC2! <3
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria372 Posts
April 26 2023 15:30 GMT
#23
Call me contrarian, but that seems absolutely unacceptable to me.
And I am rather shocked by how some people are ecstatic to participate in this.
Saying that something is "free" in 2023 is a rather naive outlook. It would make more sense if you donate to a players or even players you like, but a company such as AfreecaTV strongarming its viewers is just scummy behavior.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
456 Posts
April 26 2023 15:42 GMT
#24
On April 27 2023 00:30 Nirli wrote:
Call me contrarian, but that seems absolutely unacceptable to me.
And I am rather shocked by how some people are ecstatic to participate in this.
Saying that something is "free" in 2023 is a rather naive outlook. It would make more sense if you donate to a players or even players you like, but a company such as AfreecaTV strongarming its viewers is just scummy behavior.


If 100% of the donated funds go to the prizepool, it all goes to the players. I think it's a good thing, and considering they did put on a fantastic show for 14 years, give them some credit. The only thing I don't like is how they cucked their youtube broadcast.
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
477 Posts
April 26 2023 17:29 GMT
#25
Its not much, but i went for the $5 membership. But I think I will increase to 30 in a couple of month after parental leave is over

I almost feel ashamed i didnt go for the $30 immideately since I have enjoyed sc2 so much for so long. However, i will not say its been "for free" since i have been consistently subbing and donating to many people.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-26 17:57:42
April 26 2023 17:56 GMT
#26
On April 27 2023 00:30 Nirli wrote:
Saying that something is "free" in 2023 is a rather naive outlook.

How so? Is Netflix free? Disney+? Spotify?... etc etc.

I for my part feel privileged to have received so much free entertainment over the last 14 years and will definitely do my part in giving back.
They (hopefully) won't keep the crowdfund money in their pockets so the purpose of the crowdfund is just to ensure our favorite players can keep making a living out of this, and the show can go on.
This is not about Afreeca but about the survival of the scene
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
April 27 2023 00:44 GMT
#27
On April 27 2023 00:30 Nirli wrote:
Call me contrarian, but that seems absolutely unacceptable to me.
And I am rather shocked by how some people are ecstatic to participate in this.
Saying that something is "free" in 2023 is a rather naive outlook. It would make more sense if you donate to a players or even players you like, but a company such as AfreecaTV strongarming its viewers is just scummy behavior.


How exactly are they strongarming the viewers? It's completely optional and doesn't impact the viewership at all.

And without it, look at what happened to the GSL. Most likely without it this is the last year of GSL. With this there might be a chance.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
214 Posts
April 27 2023 03:19 GMT
#28
Can't say it's ideal, but definitely worth to wring every bit of Starcraft out of the proverbial orange while we can. Count me in--really great to see the support the community's been willing to offer so far. Every bit counts!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3411 Posts
April 27 2023 03:44 GMT
#29
Somebody has mentioned that doing this has actually now HURT Afreeca viewership because now streamer get the replay pack from Patreon and will cast it on Twitch/Youtube immediately.
EidamProtoss
Profile Joined July 2021
Czech Republic3 Posts
April 27 2023 07:22 GMT
#30
What I don't understand (and wondered about since SC remaster) is why Afreeca isn't trying to advertise for foreign viewers. Koreans do not give a f**k about SC2, foreign viewers do. So why not target foreign viewers with English ads in the English streams? Isn't there (way?) more non-Korean viewers than Korean?
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
April 27 2023 08:15 GMT
#31
I remember being subscribed to GommTV's GSL website and being able to watch the VODs in FULL 720p. I loved the way the website was laid out showing the brackets and all the possible games in spoiler tags so that even if a bo5 was one sided, you didn't know that until you clicked each possible match spoiler tag to reveal the VOD player.


I know GSL and sc2 isn't in the best of health atm, so £5 a month to join Code-A seems like a decent enough deal to me, I'll probably continue to watch vods on youtube because I'm lazy... but happy to give back (again) to the tournament I've been watching since 2010
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
April 27 2023 08:26 GMT
#32
At the time of writing this, there is 482 patrons with $12.2k per month. Assuming that it goes on for the rest of the year, about 8 months, this means that they have raised close to $100k for all of GSL this year for the prizepool alone? That is freaking amazing.

Any news on how they plan to divide that up?
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France901 Posts
April 27 2023 12:48 GMT
#33
I signed up for the 5 USD tier with the intention to keep it for a year, but I don't think I'll stay subbed unless they remove their stupid youtube overlay. I'm old and busy, sometimes the only time I have to catch some Starcraft is in public transports on my phone. I refuse to use their garbage platform when youtube works perfectly well on mobile devices.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
April 27 2023 15:22 GMT
#34
It would be cool if they dropped their youtube frame saying Afreeca is the best viewing experience, when it seems foreigners are pretty much funding their prize pool now. Afreeca is not as good as twitch or youtube it is not the best viewing experience
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 27 2023 18:59 GMT
#35
Does anyone know what the player profile pictures are?
Cereal
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2578 Posts
April 27 2023 19:25 GMT
#36
On April 28 2023 00:22 Mutaller wrote:
It would be cool if they dropped their youtube frame saying Afreeca is the best viewing experience, when it seems foreigners are pretty much funding their prize pool now. Afreeca is not as good as twitch or youtube it is not the best viewing experience

Are you actually still seeing that? I just spent a chunk of my evening watching GSL vods on YouTube and didn't see any with this frame that people are talking about.
The frumious Bandersnatch
knotfun
Profile Joined July 2019
41 Posts
April 27 2023 22:44 GMT
#37
On April 26 2023 12:55 JJH777 wrote:
I subbed to the $30 tier to support GSL and KR players.

I'm underwhelmed at this kinda sad Patreon though. For one it's completely insane that it doesn't actually say anywhere on the Patreon itself that 100% of the money goes to prize pool. I'm trusting State/Tasteless of course but that needs to be added to the actual Patreon somewhere asap. In addition to this it should explain in detail how the money will be split. What percentage of money raised goes to each placement in the event.

The tiers are poorly thought out. The fact that there's no tier equivalent to the $10-$15/month cost of a typical streaming service is mind boggling.

The whole YouTube/Afreeca controversy was poorly planned and I feel like that took some of the wind out of the sails of this Patreon. If they wanted to do that they should have announced it weeks ago and have the controversy mostly over before the Patreon launch.

The rewards are pretty disappointing. At least the $1,000/month tier should get merch or something big. If they don't want any physical items tied to the Patreon even something like the chance to choose player interview questions for the higher tiers would be cool. Or for the 1k tier a chance to play 2v2s with a pro and fan on each team. There's a lot of unique rewards they could do even if they've ruled out physical merch. Hopefully they're planning to launch a merch shop separate from this for additional funds.


you're completely right, it's all very low effort and rushed out. it wasnt that hard, come on Afreeca...
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 27 2023 23:06 GMT
#38
On April 26 2023 12:17 Seeker wrote:
Just purchased the G5L $1000 membership! The StarCraft gods have sent me a message. They truly want me to be at this LIVE semi-finals/grand finals event. I am heading to Korea on the 6th because my wedding is on the 13th. How fucking amazing is it that I get to watch the game that I love with all my heart, with my new wife?! ><

Dayum Seeker, congrats!
Mine gas, build tanks.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
April 27 2023 23:43 GMT
#39
On April 26 2023 12:17 Seeker wrote:
Just purchased the G5L $1000 membership! The StarCraft gods have sent me a message. They truly want me to be at this LIVE semi-finals/grand finals event. I am heading to Korea on the 6th because my wedding is on the 13th. How fucking amazing is it that I get to watch the game that I love with all my heart, with my new wife?! ><

Congrats on both feats!!


"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
April 28 2023 14:51 GMT
#40
On April 28 2023 03:59 InfCereal wrote:
Does anyone know what the player profile pictures are?

Same question.
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