I voted "No" because compared to previous iterations of GSL, a lot is lost when you move from a tournament that was run completely offline to a tournament that's now has a majority of it's rounds online, not to mention the continued reduction in the number of rounds.

There's something about the previous iterations that required players to show up on LAN to prove themselves and then go through multiple rounds with significant prep time both for and against your favor. Now that there are even fewer rounds to prep through and the possibility of online play causing issues the tournament has lost an identity completely separate from prize pool.

I don't think "illegitimate" is the correct term to use and GSL will still offer a long-form tournament format that has merits not found in week/weekend long tournaments, but I still voted "No" because I think it best answers the spirit of the question. GSL will still be a premiere tournament, but I feel it's lost much of its identity that gave credence to the argument that Code S was the pinnacle of the game.

geokilla

Canada8247 Posts

February 28 2023 14:50 GMT

#42

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11donbc/maru_ty_solar_parting_creator_stats_thoughts_on/

Koreans have already stopped practicing and don't want to touch the game. Shame but it's time for these guys to retire and find something else to do. They're basically making minimum wage at this point.

Riner1212

United States337 Posts

March 14 2023 23:47 GMT

#43

i mean for 7,600 dollars for first place doesnt seem that great or motivation to prepare hard... or just play tilll storm gate comes out.

v1p3r52

New Zealand182 Posts

March 28 2023 03:39 GMT

#44

sad what happened to GSL, for SC2 i think Korean starcraft will get very meh by the end of the year. Its a shame we never got a foreign champ during its heyday, even if we get one now doesn't mean much as the tournament is on life support compared to what it was. All the seasons having as much prize money as one is crazy, only the like top5 have a chance at actually making money in korea now unless people do for fun as a side gig its not a good move to be a sc2 pro as a korean now.

ASL is prob my fav tournament but GSL's days are behind it and the Europeans will carry it now for SC2.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17578 Posts

March 28 2023 04:40 GMT

#45

On March 15 2023 08:47 Riner1212 wrote:
i mean for 7,600 dollars for first place doesnt seem that great or motivation to prepare hard... or just play tilll storm gate comes out.

What makes you think the prize pools for Stormgate will be good enough to draw in Korean pros who can also play many other lucrative competitive games?

I think Morhaime learned his lesson and will allow others to run tourneys on their own and not interfere. That of course also means... no funding.

BelethielQT

90 Posts

March 28 2023 11:35 GMT

#46

On March 28 2023 13:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

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Mike morhaime isnt involved in stormgate

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17578 Posts

March 28 2023 16:05 GMT

#47

On March 28 2023 20:35 BelethielQT wrote:

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Mike morhaime isnt involved in stormgate

Morhaime's company is the publisher. The publisher supplies the money.

BelethielQT

90 Posts

March 28 2023 17:07 GMT

#48

On March 29 2023 01:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

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Morhaime's company is the publisher. The publisher supplies the money.

According to steam frost giant studios is the publisher and Mike is not Part of frost giant studios

Balnazza

Germany1293 Posts

March 28 2023 17:41 GMT

#49

On March 29 2023 02:07 BelethielQT wrote:

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According to steam frost giant studios is the publisher and Mike is not Part of frost giant studios

Frostgiant and Dreamhaven apparently have some kind of cooperation going on, though I think it is unclear how exactly that looks. So Mike is a little bit involved, but you are correct, not the publisher

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17578 Posts

March 28 2023 18:53 GMT

#50

Dreamhaven looks like a publisher to me.... they just use lots of flowery language to describe it.

Dreamhaven is home to multiple game development studios and a central support team. This includes global operations, publishing, and partnership functions that can also help independent developers build and launch their games.

reimagine the studio model by empowering studios to establish independent identities, voices, and cultures

Create vibrant worlds that reflect our values

Take the chances that most big publishers won't and many smaller studios aren't always able to

Dreamhaven has the money.

getting back to my original point...
it is not obvious that Stormgate will have prize pools that can compete with major esports titles. Zero evidence is presented for this. Therefore, for any esports pro .... "waiting for Stormgate" is a fool's errand.

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So much moralizing and virtue signaling in Dreamhaven's messaging. It is hilarious.

Like.. just make a fun game guys.... spare me the morality sermons. When I want guidance on ethics and morality I'll talk to my local rabbi or read an Ayn Rand novel.

It is hard to absorb Dreamhaven's moralizing messages containing basic grammar errors. LOL.