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Rogue wins Code S, improves to 8-0 in major finals

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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
May 10 2021 01:54 GMT
#24
Congratulations to Rogue on becoming a three-time GSL champion in addition to his many other accolades in his storied SC2 career. His level of play was absolutely spectacular. Wonder where Maru's eyes went when those slow banes killed those 22 SCVs at his third. We were all perplexed.
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 10 2021 02:38 GMT
#25
On May 10 2021 09:43 Argonauta wrote:
I was not expecting such level of stomp. GG to Rogue, looking forward to see him defend the GSL title in the upcoming season finals. There is season finals no?


Yes but it's in two months (at the start of July).
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
May 10 2021 03:59 GMT
#26
On May 10 2021 10:54 tommey.liang wrote:
Congratulations to Rogue on becoming a three-time GSL champion in addition to his many other accolades in his storied SC2 career. His level of play was absolutely spectacular. Wonder where Maru's eyes went when those slow banes killed those 22 SCVs at his third. We were all perplexed.

He was chasing down hard on the Muta, and at that moment he was also tilted as well. When Maru doesnt play clean like he should, that is what you got. Dont forget Rogue stomped him 3-0 in ST2 last year in the same fashion.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
May 10 2021 04:02 GMT
#27
On May 10 2021 10:29 Ben... wrote:
As far as bops go, this was one of them. Not even close though there were several parts of multiple games to point to where Maru goofed and lost, especially that Oxide game which looked won for a bit.

Had Maru did the right thing in that Oxide map, which is staying home and macro instead of moving ALL of his Bio out, it would have been a 2-2 score and we would have had a great Finals. There was no reason for him to try counter-attack so soon because Rogue was pretty much all-in and did not have that strong of a economy back home.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-10 05:38:44
May 10 2021 05:37 GMT
#28
On May 09 2021 15:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2021 15:39 Gottingen wrote:
On May 09 2021 15:35 swarminfestor wrote:
Will Rogue finally earn the right of the first seed to swap the player in Group Nominations later? Unless somehow he does not advance to semifinal of ST 2, and Maru or Trap end up winning championship instead.

yes he will


It will be funny if he makes Group A as a group of death.


There's reason to believe he might do it.

Remember back in Season 3 of 2020, when he grabbed INnoVation as his first opponent? Well, in the most recent group selection, he revealed that he only made the 'fun' pick because he had already clinched his IEM Katowice seed, and that he would be picking conservatively instead. Now that he has that IEM Katowice seed in hand, maybe he'll try to entertain the fans again.
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
May 10 2021 06:34 GMT
#29
On May 10 2021 14:37 Waxangel wrote:
Remember back in Season 3 of 2020, when he grabbed INnoVation as his first opponent? Well, in the most recent group selection, he revealed that he only made the 'fun' pick because he had already clinched his IEM Katowice seed, and that he would be picking conservatively instead. Now that he has that IEM Katowice seed in hand, maybe he'll try to entertain the fans again.


Another interesting tidbit is that so far in the new ESL system Rogue has grabbed the first seed to Katowice both times. Last year he won Katowice, giving him a seat to the next one, and now he won the first GSL, again getting a seat before anyone else.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
May 10 2021 06:57 GMT
#30
What a player
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
May 10 2021 07:16 GMT
#31
All Rouge finales feel like he does stuff and it works, without anything speacel, but i guess thats what makes him so strong not playing to look fancy and good but to win and mess with his opponent, the last game looked like Rouge already won mentally.
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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
May 10 2021 07:44 GMT
#32
For a first time after 10 years I lost motivation to watch the final. But when I saw the result I felt some relief. Rogue definitely deserves it. Sorry for Maru fanboys, but I got really pissed to watch how important matches are decided by some bunker rushes and that match with Trap made me rage so much like never before.
Rogue is not my favorite zerg, but I've always respected his character and his macro strategy. Then I read how he made it like Dark should do it many times and he made it only once. What an irony. Of course I felt deja vu because MMA did it the way Marineking never succeeded in the past. So I guess it is not always about winning strategy, it is about will and confidence.
But If I don't see a protoss wins Code S finally, I can't watch GSL after so many years. Of course protosses struggle in ASL too, for now I find it much more fun to watch.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-10 08:06:22
May 10 2021 08:04 GMT
#33
On May 10 2021 14:37 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2021 15:46 swarminfestor wrote:
On May 09 2021 15:39 Gottingen wrote:
On May 09 2021 15:35 swarminfestor wrote:
Will Rogue finally earn the right of the first seed to swap the player in Group Nominations later? Unless somehow he does not advance to semifinal of ST 2, and Maru or Trap end up winning championship instead.

yes he will


It will be funny if he makes Group A as a group of death.


There's reason to believe he might do it.

Remember back in Season 3 of 2020, when he grabbed INnoVation as his first opponent? Well, in the most recent group selection, he revealed that he only made the 'fun' pick because he had already clinched his IEM Katowice seed, and that he would be picking conservatively instead. Now that he has that IEM Katowice seed in hand, maybe he'll try to entertain the fans again.


As much as I can think of, what else other than Maru and Trap can make a group of death?

Dark and Innovation are pretty much not powerhouse players like they used to be. TY, Zest and Stats are leaving for military service. Then, we end up with the remaining "good" players like Dream, Zoun, Cure, Bunny, Parting, DRG, SoS and Byun.

Otherwise, if foreign players like Clem and Reynor plus the military returnees like Cj Hero and Gumiho join the latest season, I believe the new season will be interesting as hell.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1206 Posts
May 10 2021 09:09 GMT
#34
Congrats to Rogue for the title and this display of power! Can't say the games were too interesting from a viewer perspective though
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
May 10 2021 16:50 GMT
#35
Not the best games but Rogue stomping against the person most were cheering for

is a comment made quite often when it comes to Rogue and finals
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uselless
Profile Joined April 2021
92 Posts
May 11 2021 22:55 GMT
#36
Very sad that Maru didn't win but tbh it feels kind of like an inevitability now that he'll disappoint I wish I had followed him during his championship run more closely because I would still be riding that dopamine high far into the future
maru :D
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
May 13 2021 12:01 GMT
#37
What is happening is zergs have started 2 solve the meta, you can expect other zerg players to start becoming more dominant again as well. Rogue is a GOD at finding the optimal way to play zerg. Patches that have nerfed zerg you will see rogue not do so well until he adapts new unstoppable ways to play zerg. I expect more nerfs to come in the future and if the game stays the game expect continued Zerg domination in all big tournaments.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 13 2021 12:21 GMT
#38
On May 10 2021 13:02 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2021 10:29 Ben... wrote:
As far as bops go, this was one of them. Not even close though there were several parts of multiple games to point to where Maru goofed and lost, especially that Oxide game which looked won for a bit.

Had Maru did the right thing in that Oxide map, which is staying home and macro instead of moving ALL of his Bio out, it would have been a 2-2 score and we would have had a great Finals. There was no reason for him to try counter-attack so soon because Rogue was pretty much all-in and did not have that strong of a economy back home.

Maru v Meomaika, game 2(IIRC). Had Maru stayed at home, he would have probably won that game. Nope, he moved out. This is the Maru thing to do.
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 13 2021 13:12 GMT
#39
Rogue has to be one of the only players that prepares for his opponents.

His finals are always awful games.
Cereal
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
May 13 2021 13:12 GMT
#40
On May 13 2021 21:01 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
What is happening is zergs have started 2 solve the meta, you can expect other zerg players to start becoming more dominant again as well. Rogue is a GOD at finding the optimal way to play zerg. Patches that have nerfed zerg you will see rogue not do so well until he adapts new unstoppable ways to play zerg. I expect more nerfs to come in the future and if the game stays the game expect continued Zerg domination in all big tournaments.

There was nothing to solve, Maru DID defend against the initial Roach Ravager pressure 2 out of 4 times. He just made mistakes and lost the games. This should have no effect on the current balance META, people are acting like Rogue was doing some ground-breaking strategy and people start copying him everywhere or something.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
May 13 2021 13:14 GMT
#41
On May 13 2021 22:12 InfCereal wrote:
Rogue has to be one of the only players that prepares for his opponents.

His finals are always awful games.

Yeah, I wonder who did Maru practice against to prepare for the Finals. Because DRG just arent at the same level with Rogue in term of ZvT, and Dark is Rogue teammate so I dont think he would help Maru to practice at all.
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
May 13 2021 22:35 GMT
#42
On May 13 2021 22:14 tigera6 wrote:
Yeah, I wonder who did Maru practice against to prepare for the Finals. Because DRG just arent at the same level with Rogue in term of ZvT, and Dark is Rogue teammate so I dont think he would help Maru to practice at all.


Especially with soO gone, there's such a big gap between Rogue, Dark, and the rest of the Korean zergs that it isn't even funny. Now that those two are on the same team, I don't envy anyone having to prepare for either of them.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-14 08:31:16
May 14 2021 08:19 GMT
#43
Maru didn't need a big practice partner though. Rogue didn't win because he prepared the best possible ling bane muta. He won because he took Maru ofguard. And not even Dark could have prepared Maru for that. It doesn't matter how good your ZvT is if you don't go for roach 1-1 pushes every time.

Rogue took over the initiative and that's the Maru's thing - being aggressive and dictating the tempo of the game.

Edit< Also DRG is one of the best TvZ players out there, but it still appears Rogue won the psychological part of the game which really doesn't rely on the "quality" of the player.
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