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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
April 21 2021 16:28 GMT
#21
Holy shit to that game 2 was quite fun. Reynor did not make it easy on Hyperion either.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
chickenandbeer1234
Profile Joined April 2021
5 Posts
April 21 2021 17:09 GMT
#22
wait, so Reynor lost to Chinese player on EU server despite of huge ping advantage ?? That is a madness
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-21 17:35:56
April 21 2021 17:34 GMT
#23
Nice work and very interesting post, thanks!

Personally I still consider Sjow vs Life one of the biggest upsets ever, considering it was DH offline main stage match in the ro8.



Life was probably hungover or something, but still :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
April 21 2021 17:39 GMT
#24
Hats of to ZigguratOfUr for one of the best effort posts on TL.net and to Hyperion for the greatest SC2 upset of all time.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-21 18:05:37
April 21 2021 17:47 GMT
#25
On April 22 2021 02:34 Musicus wrote:
Nice work and very interesting post, thanks!

Personally I still consider Sjow vs Life one of the biggest upsets ever, considering it was DH offline main stage match in the ro8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PABJj4_Xt4

Life was probably hungover or something, but still :D.


That was an 825 rating point gap which is a ton for 2013. We'll see where it ends up once I figure out how to weigh different epochs properly.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
April 21 2021 18:09 GMT
#26
losing to a 2000 point gap player, ayayay. That is not good guys
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26620 Posts
April 21 2021 18:36 GMT
#27
On April 21 2021 19:52 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2021 19:32 swarminfestor wrote:
Most Chinese players like Hyperion, Meomaika, TIME, Firefly did has some interesting builds to counter the higher ranked opponents.

Meomaika aint Chineae.

As per the thread. Some classic upset that i've watched was sjow vs life

It’s a long time ago, I might be remembering it wrongly, so I’m open to correction.

For me what made that such a staggering upset was the games were relatively standard and Sjow didn’t just cheese our Life with a couple of weird builds.

Also at a LAN event too!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 21 2021 18:39 GMT
#28
On April 22 2021 03:09 Argonauta wrote:
losing to a 2000 point gap player, ayayay. That is not good guys

well he qualified the next day vs Serral, so I think the thesis of the statistical outlier holds rather well ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
April 21 2021 20:49 GMT
#29
I demand Aligulac.com take measures to stop this rampant inflation, perhaps by slashing every number by 1/1000000 like in world of warcraft
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2021 21:09 GMT
#30
On April 22 2021 02:34 Musicus wrote:
Nice work and very interesting post, thanks!

Personally I still consider Sjow vs Life one of the biggest upsets ever, considering it was DH offline main stage match in the ro8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PABJj4_Xt4

Life was probably hungover or something, but still :D.

What was the betting line on the game. I mean it was life playing after all
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warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 02:31:33
April 22 2021 01:21 GMT
#31
I think Hyperion's aligulac rating is inaccurate. Hyperion is 5700-5800 on KR, so his aligulac should be ~1800, based on other players with similar MMR. That means the MMR gap with Reynor is closer to ~1300 than 2000, which while still huge, does not make it the biggest upset in history.
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 01:22:02
April 22 2021 01:21 GMT
#32
oops double post
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26620 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 02:31:05
April 22 2021 02:30 GMT
#33
On April 22 2021 10:21 warnull wrote:
I think Hyperion's aligulac rating is inaccurate. Hyperion is 5700-5800 on KR, so his aligulac should be ~1800, based on other players with similar MMR. That means the MMR gap with Reynor is closer to ~1300 than 2000, which while still huge, does it make it the biggest upset in history.

I mean Aligulac can only go off tournament results, to some degree. Alas not all tournaments are equal and there’s pretty big differences in regions and how often the best from each play.

I mean they don’t have a huge amount of games logged but it’s not nothing either. And they haven’t done amazingly well. Who are the similar players you’re cross-referencing with their MMR here?

5800 isn’t anything to scoff at on Kr by any means, but I mean you can’t extrapolate that into tournament play, it’s a different environment. It says they’re comparable to other players in that range playing a lot of games vs a rotating wheel of opponents, but playing series against known opponents is a different kettle of fish.

Intuitively though, as much as I did love the OP’s research I guess I think the ‘biggest’ upset has to have real stakes on it too. Cool thread though and some fun old memories appeared too!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
April 22 2021 02:38 GMT
#34
MCanning smacking down Neeb can hardly be considered an upset! Lol
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
April 22 2021 05:58 GMT
#35
Who would like to add (Wiki)Sunrise Cup and (Wiki)SoloAsR Invitational in Aligulac?
I love SC2
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 22 2021 06:12 GMT
#36
MC vs Jinro
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
April 22 2021 07:07 GMT
#37
Beautiful, thanks.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 22 2021 11:39 GMT
#38
MaxPax played Terran vs Trifax. (According to him)
The game was appearently casted by Rotterdam, so should go to the offrace section
MaxPax
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 11:50:49
April 22 2021 11:49 GMT
#39
On April 22 2021 14:58 thickertom wrote:
Who would like to add (Wiki)Sunrise Cup and (Wiki)SoloAsR Invitational in Aligulac?


noone

btw. good job ZigguratOfUr
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
ZugzwangSC
Profile Joined October 2019
87 Posts
April 22 2021 14:52 GMT
#40
On April 21 2021 19:29 uThermal wrote:
Glad to be able to contribute to your research twice


Wish there was a way to like this post! You rock uThermal!

And fun analysis OP!
www.youtube.com/c/zugzwangstarcraft
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