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New ladder maps for first season of 2021?

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iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada63 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 13:14:47
January 24 2021 17:12 GMT
#1
Hi guys,

Is there any word if the map pool changes for the new ladder season starting on the 26th of January? I know Blizz isn't supporting SC2 anymore, but is there at least a minimal map pool rotation?

Thanks.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 24 2021 17:32 GMT
#2
They haven't said anything but I find it likely they will not change the map pool before the IEM World Championship so the players have experience on the maps.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 24 2021 18:06 GMT
#3
On January 25 2021 02:32 Elentos wrote:
They haven't said anything but I find it likely they will not change the map pool before the IEM World Championship so the players have experience on the maps.


That's not a great reason given that if they had released/previewed the maps at the regular time the players would have had 6 weeks to prepare on them, but that's probably the reason Blizzard is going to give.

The alternative explanation is that whoever's left at Blizzard doesn't know how to run the QA/performance tooling for maps, or how to make changes to them before releasing them to ladder.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 24 2021 21:20 GMT
#4
Was there at least a preview of the new maps? Like OK, don't release them until after the IEM, but at least show us what we gonna get?
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samsim
Profile Joined December 2019
United States26 Posts
January 24 2021 22:12 GMT
#5
There has been no preview, and no news in the launcher or on the SC2 website for a new season.
iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada63 Posts
January 24 2021 22:16 GMT
#6
On January 25 2021 07:12 samsim wrote:
There has been no preview, and no news in the launcher or on the SC2 website for a new season.


Got the info here. Not sure how realiable that is:

(Wiki)Battle.net Seasons
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samsim
Profile Joined December 2019
United States26 Posts
January 24 2021 22:37 GMT
#7
On January 25 2021 07:16 iMECH_KolosS wrote:
Got the info here. Not sure how realiable that is:

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Seasons


Funnily enough, that page had a revision that reported that the season was ending in March as Blizzard revised their season end date, and then Blizzard revised the date again to the original one. Which only adds to confusion.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 24 2021 22:55 GMT
#8
On January 25 2021 07:37 samsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2021 07:16 iMECH_KolosS wrote:
Got the info here. Not sure how realiable that is:

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Seasons


Funnily enough, that page had a revision that reported that the season was ending in March as Blizzard revised their season end date, and then Blizzard revised the date again to the original one. Which only adds to confusion.

So what I'm getting of this is, that there's only 1 person in charge and it's Joker

But honestly, would love to know when the new maps arrive and which are they.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada63 Posts
January 24 2021 23:30 GMT
#9
On January 25 2021 07:55 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2021 07:37 samsim wrote:
On January 25 2021 07:16 iMECH_KolosS wrote:
Got the info here. Not sure how realiable that is:

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Seasons


Funnily enough, that page had a revision that reported that the season was ending in March as Blizzard revised their season end date, and then Blizzard revised the date again to the original one. Which only adds to confusion.

So what I'm getting of this is, that there's only 1 person in charge and it's Joker

But honestly, would love to know when the new maps arrive and which are they.



I guess we'll know on Tuesday ! :-D .....Or not hahah
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Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland595 Posts
January 25 2021 09:05 GMT
#10
Also thing that could be highlighted is that TLMC has not been announced yet, but I guess everything is just scheduled to happen after IEM finals and/or Blizzconilne.
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iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada63 Posts
January 25 2021 13:37 GMT
#11
On January 25 2021 18:05 Legan wrote:
Also thing that could be highlighted is that TLMC has not been announced yet, but I guess everything is just scheduled to happen after IEM finals and/or Blizzconilne.


That's true. Didn't think about TLMC. Are we sure it's still happening ? Been out of touch with the scene in 2018-mid-2020 so haven't seen one in a while.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 25 2021 16:32 GMT
#12
On January 25 2021 18:05 Legan wrote:
Also thing that could be highlighted is that TLMC has not been announced yet, but I guess everything is just scheduled to happen after IEM finals and/or Blizzconilne.

Mapmakers need some time to do their maps and if the plan is to start new maps after the IEM which is happening in a month, I believe the time is now. But I've never payed attention to the scheduling of the TLMC so maybe later is fine.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 25 2021 17:01 GMT
#13
On January 26 2021 01:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2021 18:05 Legan wrote:
Also thing that could be highlighted is that TLMC has not been announced yet, but I guess everything is just scheduled to happen after IEM finals and/or Blizzconilne.

Mapmakers need some time to do their maps and if the plan is to start new maps after the IEM which is happening in a month, I believe the time is now. But I've never payed attention to the scheduling of the TLMC so maybe later is fine.


Nah. Blizz has always been insanely slow at that, with months in between the end of a TLMC and those maps being added to ladder. The next map pool will presumably still be maps from the January 2020 TLMC (under normal circumstances at least).

If the TLMC starts after IEM I have some doubts about whether we'd even see those maps in the ladder season after the next. Assuming there's a TLMC at all...
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland595 Posts
January 25 2021 17:14 GMT
#14
In last last two years TLMC was announced on 9th and 10th of January and submission phase lasted 25 days. The judging takes about one week. After that one week for tournament and another for iteration before voting opens. Voting usually last only 1 week more. I expect that they at least don't want to try getting people to judge maps during Katowice. I'm not sure how long the off season is meant to last, but that is of course the best time for running this.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 25 2021 17:44 GMT
#15
On January 26 2021 02:14 Legan wrote:
In last last two years TLMC was announced on 9th and 10th of January and submission phase lasted 25 days. The judging takes about one week. After that one week for tournament and another for iteration before voting opens. Voting usually last only 1 week more. I expect that they at least don't want to try getting people to judge maps during Katowice. I'm not sure how long the off season is meant to last, but that is of course the best time for running this.


Everything was finished TLMC14-wise by the beginning of March last year. But the subsequent March map pool was still maps from the previous summer's TLMC, and it took three more months before maps from TLMC14 got to ladder.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1986 Posts
January 25 2021 22:00 GMT
#16
On January 26 2021 02:14 Legan wrote:
In last last two years TLMC was announced on 9th and 10th of January and submission phase lasted 25 days. The judging takes about one week. After that one week for tournament and another for iteration before voting opens. Voting usually last only 1 week more. I expect that they at least don't want to try getting people to judge maps during Katowice. I'm not sure how long the off season is meant to last, but that is of course the best time for running this.


they should just add maps without people judging them tbh. anything will do.
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Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
January 25 2021 22:23 GMT
#17
i hope we don't end up getting a pool with old maps, those don't age very well
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 25 2021 23:27 GMT
#18
New season is live on EU. Same maps.
Cereal
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5541 Posts
January 25 2021 23:47 GMT
#19
You've gotta be kidding me.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 26 2021 00:10 GMT
#20
Well for the tournament scene ESL can pick up the slack (and probably should regardless of what happens imo--Blizzard has always been incredibly sluggish with managing maps even at the best of times) , but this really sucks for ladder.
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