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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 02 2020 04:25 GMT
#101
On December 02 2020 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:09 RKC wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:39 gotqn wrote:
It's strange Trap has no new team yet as he is performing very well this year. Also, it will be strange to see now Maru, Rouge and Trap playing one versus other defending different teams.


One word - Protoss.

What does that have to do with anything



Besides the fact that the race has been killed by the balance team?

User was warned for this post.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
December 02 2020 04:41 GMT
#102
On December 02 2020 13:25 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On December 02 2020 12:09 RKC wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:39 gotqn wrote:
It's strange Trap has no new team yet as he is performing very well this year. Also, it will be strange to see now Maru, Rouge and Trap playing one versus other defending different teams.


One word - Protoss.

What does that have to do with anything



Besides the fact that the race has been killed by the balance team?


Yes. A team manager has to weigh financials - competition winnings, media exposure and other potential financial streams.

Let's be conservative and assume a S-tier Protoss has the bargaining power of an A-tier Terran/Zerg. Based on last 2-3 year trends, the latter has a higher ROI. Slam-duck decision.

(This is to pre-empt anyone from going "Oh, but [insert name of B/C-tier Protoss] got into a team!". Apples and oranges. Parting is quite an outlier as he has other potential financial streams - including his, yes, streaming activity.)
gg no re thx
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
December 02 2020 07:47 GMT
#103
On December 02 2020 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:09 RKC wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:39 gotqn wrote:
It's strange Trap has no new team yet as he is performing very well this year. Also, it will be strange to see now Maru, Rouge and Trap playing one versus other defending different teams.


One word - Protoss.

What does that have to do with anything

He's actually stuck in a balance hellhole
1) He's a top tier player, no doubt about that
2) He doesn't win things and champs get much more exposure than runner ups
3) He doesn't stream/isn't a part time streamer

So we have a very good player, who has the right to ask for much monies, who doesn't win trophies and who isn't medially usable as a streamer. He's no MC or Parting, that's for sure. He's not exactly in a great negotiating spot. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to undersell himself and I bet people would love to get him as cheap as possible.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
December 02 2020 10:02 GMT
#104
dammit, everybody knew it will happen someday but still it is disappointing
The state of sc2 in Korea is truly worsening it seems...
sOs TY PartinG
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
December 02 2020 10:13 GMT
#105
On December 02 2020 19:02 egrimm wrote:
dammit, everybody knew it will happen someday but still it is disappointing
The state of sc2 in Korea is truly worsening it seems...

And they thought the SC2 in Korea hit the rock bottom...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-02 11:05:04
December 02 2020 11:03 GMT
#106
On December 02 2020 16:47 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On December 02 2020 12:09 RKC wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:39 gotqn wrote:
It's strange Trap has no new team yet as he is performing very well this year. Also, it will be strange to see now Maru, Rouge and Trap playing one versus other defending different teams.


One word - Protoss.

What does that have to do with anything

He's actually stuck in a balance hellhole
1) He's a top tier player, no doubt about that
2) He doesn't win things and champs get much more exposure than runner ups
3) He doesn't stream/isn't a part time streamer

So we have a very good player, who has the right to ask for much monies, who doesn't win trophies and who isn't medially usable as a streamer. He's no MC or Parting, that's for sure. He's not exactly in a great negotiating spot. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to undersell himself and I bet people would love to get him as cheap as possible.


Exactly, being stuck as a Kong is an awkward place to be. Coincidental or not, it's mostly Protoss occupying this niche - Trap, Stats, and even Zest. Whilst even 'slumping' top Terrans and Zergs (S to A tier) can pull out a surprise win or two (Inno, Byun, soO, Rogue).
gg no re thx
DevilDriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany77 Posts
December 02 2020 13:54 GMT
#107
I was pretty shocked to be honest. I noticed it only today, when I saw in Super Tournament that Trap has no team. I thought it's a mistake until I looked it up in Liquipedia. Maybe it was inevitable, but I did not really that coming and I'm pretty worried about the Korean sc2 scene.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4280 Posts
December 02 2020 13:58 GMT
#108
Rip in pepperoni

back to BW soon, I hope
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27360 Posts
December 02 2020 23:52 GMT
#109
Not surprising, still disappointing.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
December 04 2020 04:14 GMT
#110
End of an era. Pour one out.
Stream plz
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 04 2020 04:18 GMT
#111
The surprise is its just the SC2 team that is disbanding. I read the headline and thought the airline was disbanding.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
December 04 2020 17:35 GMT
#112
Sad to see the greatest team in SC2 history disband.
Thanks JAGW for all the support. I hope the company recovers well from the pandemy.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
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