• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:41
CET 06:41
KST 14:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage8Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery [BW] Looking for Clan Thread! [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10470 users

Rookie retires

Forum Index > SC2 General
51 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 07:35:04
August 27 2020 07:42 GMT
#1
According to a Tweet made by (Wiki)Team GP, their Korean Terran (Wiki)Rookie will retire today upon the end of his contract with the organization.

I've heard before that Rookie was considering retirement if he didn't make it into GSL Code S, so it seems like he has indeed decided to move on with his life after failing to qualify again.

Rookie started out on CJ Entus in 2016 and went on a hiatus after the KeSPA team disbanded. He tried to come back into the pro scene afterwards, but was unable to make an impact.



Source
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 08:20:26
August 27 2020 08:16 GMT
#2
Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its rookies are retiring.

Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2156 Posts
August 27 2020 08:18 GMT
#3
On August 27 2020 17:16 Russano wrote:
Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its Rookies are retiring.

Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled.

At least in Korea, not the foreign scene though
John 15:13
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
August 27 2020 08:35 GMT
#4
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 27 2020 08:39 GMT
#5
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
August 27 2020 08:51 GMT
#6
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say.
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy88 Posts
August 27 2020 09:38 GMT
#7
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.


I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2104 Posts
August 27 2020 10:57 GMT
#8
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Let's not act like this is because of Blizzard. Seriously, they may have disrupted the scene a bit with their global efforts, but I don't think that's the reason Korean players are retiring. If anything, Blizzard's long-term financial support is the only reason it's made it out a decade.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
August 27 2020 11:13 GMT
#9
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

Whut? Is there a source to that or is that some meme?

On August 27 2020 18:38 Parser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.


I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues.

Considering the biggest hyped matches are foreigners vs Koreans, if you remove Koreans from the equation you lose the audience. Also it won't look good if the death of the SC2 proscene will be based on the Blizzard's decision(although it's not 100 % their fault). Not that it matter to the new Blizzard anymore, after the last few years I lost all hopes(and not because the SC related decisions)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
August 27 2020 11:24 GMT
#10
On August 27 2020 17:51 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say.

Probably, seems a bigger factor to me. Brood War still being big in Korea is another huge factor.

That aside, wish Rookie luck in whatever he’s doing next. There are structural problems in Korean SC2 for sure, I don’t think Rookie struggling to break the barrier into Code S is particularly due to some of them though.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
August 27 2020 13:05 GMT
#11
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 13:10:53
August 27 2020 13:08 GMT
#12
On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote:
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.

It wasn't in the first year but ultimately this is practically what Blizzard did as they made KeSPA switch to SC2. Yeah spoiler alert, this was not well received in Korea and it didn't help SC2 in the long term.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
120720
Profile Blog Joined July 2020
95 Posts
August 27 2020 13:11 GMT
#13
Username checks out according to his number of code S appearances.
skdsk
Profile Joined February 2019
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 18:11:24
August 27 2020 18:09 GMT
#14
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 27 2020 19:26 GMT
#15
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Who cares about Korea. Not like highest quality gameplay matters or anything.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 20:54:06
August 27 2020 19:43 GMT
#16
I get a little annoyed when every time someone retires people jump to blame Blizzard or ESL. Yes the korean scene is definitely not where it use to be because of military service leaves but did anyone consider maybe Rookie just felt enough was enough after trying for such a long time with little to show. You guys have to remember that SC2 is a big time sink and maybe Rookie had other ambitions at this point with military service done.
Icebound Esports
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
August 27 2020 21:21 GMT
#17
On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote:
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.

They tried that, but BW was too popular in Korea and the community refused to let it die. To this day BW is still more popular than SC2.
elluel
Profile Joined October 2019
62 Posts
August 28 2020 02:02 GMT
#18
Who?


User was temp banned for this post.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
August 28 2020 04:54 GMT
#19
Sad to hear about Rookies retirement. Wish him the best for future endeavours.

Unfortunately I have heard SpunXtain has also retired. I remember seeing his proxy base proxy barracks strategy on Scrap Station it was very innovative.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
August 28 2020 05:27 GMT
#20
On August 28 2020 03:09 skdsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff.

That's one way to spin "they're banned from competing in many tournaments" I guess.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 220
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 76684
Rain 1521
GuemChi 1254
ZergMaN 42
Bale 35
NotJumperer 9
Force[name] 6
Icarus 6
LuMiX 1
Counter-Strike
fl0m3894
Coldzera 1143
Other Games
summit1g9053
WinterStarcraft334
C9.Mang0301
Mew2King80
NeuroSwarm70
ViBE58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick636
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki91
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota276
League of Legends
• Lourlo871
• Stunt230
Upcoming Events
INu's Battles
6h 19m
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
10h 49m
The PondCast
1d 4h
KCM Race Survival
1d 4h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 6h
OSC
1d 17h
Ultimate Battle
2 days
OSC
2 days
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
IPSL
3 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
4 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.