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GSL Code S Finals Preview: TY vs Cure

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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
June 05 2020 19:58 GMT
#17
On June 06 2020 03:45 Elentos wrote:
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On June 06 2020 03:34 Waxangel wrote:
On June 06 2020 02:57 Elentos wrote:
On June 06 2020 02:53 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
But in the case of TY, he's put in enough great performances in high-stakes matches over the years that we trust him to play up to his potential in this kind of situation. He might get out-mechaniced or out-strategized, but he's not a player who chokes.

The player with quite possibly the most reverse sweeps in big matches against him in Starcraft history isn't a player who chokes? There's a lot of things to be said about TY, but if he really was a player who doesn't choke he'd have won a few more tournaments at this point.


Hmm, I never perceived his reverse-sweeps as a particular kind of collapse in his level of play

I always felt the drop-off was pretty obvious to see personally. And it's not like those are the only instances in his career that can fall under choking. Another great example would be the GSL final against Maru.

TY also talked extensively about how affected he was by his reverse sweep history in the translated interview on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/gteqoh/gsl_ty_vs_parting_ro4_tys_review_translation_in/ I think he definitely doesn't feel clutch, or at least it gets to him on some level.

Hoping to see vintage TYvT, when he gets the ball rolling in TvT it's absolutely unparalleled. Even Maru a while back (I think post GSL interview at some point) said about a botched early game attack "I don't know why it doesn't work, every time TY does it, it works."

TY 4-2
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 01:24:16
June 05 2020 20:59 GMT
#18
I think TY has it in the bag, I'd be more than welcome to be proven wrong tho
Also great banner, I really like the color
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1849 Posts
June 05 2020 21:42 GMT
#19
DO IT FOR DIEUCURE BABY!

TY is at home right now practicing his look of surprise for when he gets reverse swept.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
June 05 2020 23:40 GMT
#20
I have a hard time calling this, i lb with my heart and go for Cure but it might as well be TY who takes it.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10055 Posts
June 06 2020 01:52 GMT
#21
lets go Cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
floating__bee
Profile Joined October 2019
Malaysia20 Posts
June 06 2020 01:55 GMT
#22
4-3, whoever win, will be an awesome enjoyment for everyone!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 07:36:20
June 06 2020 02:09 GMT
#23
When was the last time a GSL had two non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.
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rickzou
Profile Joined May 2019
46 Posts
June 06 2020 02:38 GMT
#24
Cure 4:3 TY
believe in the underdog
SeigeTankEmAll
Profile Joined May 2020
8 Posts
June 06 2020 03:08 GMT
#25
I got 4-3 TY
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 06 2020 05:19 GMT
#26
On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
June 06 2020 06:10 GMT
#27
Been rooting for TY since 2016. 3rd time's a charm. TY fighting!
Will be happy for Cure if he takes it too--the lad deserves it.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 06 2020 06:12 GMT
#28
On June 06 2020 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
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On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.


I think he meant someone who never won a tournament before, in which case that would be Gumiho I think?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 06:32:30
June 06 2020 06:20 GMT
#29
On June 06 2020 15:12 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.


I think he meant someone who never won a tournament before, in which case that would be Gumiho I think?

That sounds really weird since TY quite literally has won a World Championship.

GuMiho vs soO also does not qualify for that metric since soO had already won a KeSPA Cup by then.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 06:33:54
June 06 2020 06:32 GMT
#30
On June 06 2020 15:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 15:12 Nakajin wrote:
On June 06 2020 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.


I think he meant someone who never won a tournament before, in which case that would be Gumiho I think?

That sounds really weird since TY quite literally has won a World Championship.

You are right that the GuMiho vs soO final (amazing final and a good seasom btw) was the last one that had no premier tournament winner.


Oh oups I read it too fast and missed the "two" (well written "to" but whatever), I thought he was speaking in regard to Cure, silly me.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 06 2020 07:02 GMT
#31
On June 06 2020 15:32 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 15:20 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 15:12 Nakajin wrote:
On June 06 2020 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.


I think he meant someone who never won a tournament before, in which case that would be Gumiho I think?

That sounds really weird since TY quite literally has won a World Championship.

You are right that the GuMiho vs soO final (amazing final and a good seasom btw) was the last one that had no premier tournament winner.


Oh oups I read it too fast and missed the "two" (well written "to" but whatever), I thought he was speaking in regard to Cure, silly me.

It seems you posted right before I edited and it turns out we were wrong anyway . I think we would have to go back to soO vs Classic for no winner...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
June 06 2020 07:42 GMT
#32
On June 06 2020 16:02 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 15:32 Nakajin wrote:
On June 06 2020 15:20 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 15:12 Nakajin wrote:
On June 06 2020 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 11:09 BisuDagger wrote:
When was the last time a GSL had to non-champion finalists? This will be a great finish to a solid season.

Last GSL (Rogue vs Trap), and the one before it (Dark vs Trap)

So 3 out of 3 last GSLs.


I think he meant someone who never won a tournament before, in which case that would be Gumiho I think?

That sounds really weird since TY quite literally has won a World Championship.

You are right that the GuMiho vs soO final (amazing final and a good seasom btw) was the last one that had no premier tournament winner.


Oh oups I read it too fast and missed the "two" (well written "to" but whatever), I thought he was speaking in regard to Cure, silly me.

It seems you posted right before I edited and it turns out we were wrong anyway . I think we would have to go back to soO vs Classic for no winner...

I was thinking two players who hadn't won a GSL previously. Didn't realize it was the previous two finals lol. Although it's much more interesting seeing the last time two non tournament winners made it to the finals.
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machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 17:34:07
June 06 2020 09:49 GMT
#33
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It is very impressive which players TY defeated to win this season.


results spoiled fail
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-07 07:50:22
June 06 2020 10:16 GMT
#34
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Damn TY bulldozed Cure. It was amazing how he dismantled Dark and defeated PartinG to get here too. Well done TY!

Edit: Apologies for the spoilers!
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 21:36:32
June 06 2020 11:25 GMT
#35
Cure advancing to the finals was a welcome surprise. It is always interesting to see someone reach this stage for the first time.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 06 2020 13:30 GMT
#36
What's with Terran off-racing? Flash, TY, Maru... Anti-Tesagi movement?
gg no re thx
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