• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:50
CET 19:50
KST 03:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)1Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Ride the Waves in Surf City: Why Surfing Lessons H
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) What happened to TvZ on Retro?
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2111 users

TIME joins KZ Gaming

Forum Index > SC2 General
18 CommentsPost a Reply
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 26 2020 08:30 GMT
#1
Source

The Chinese Terran recently left Newbee, previously his former teammate Dear joined the team as well.

Current KZ Gaming roster:

(T)Bunny
(P)Dear
(T)INnoVation
(T)TIME
(P)Nice

TIME will not be eligible to play in GTC until week 4.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 08:43:13
March 26 2020 08:39 GMT
#2
The rich getting richer. DPG and Kaizi are in a real arms race. The only thing that gives other teams any chance is that they can't use every strong player on their team for every match.

Kinda worried about the state of the league, dominance can quickly lead to boredom then.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
March 26 2020 08:42 GMT
#3
Well, TIME has been low-key bad in team leagues (besides his amusingly dominant 2v2 run with Dear), so I honestly don't know if he deserves a starting spot over Nice given his past performances.

Still good to have more options and depth, obviously.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 09:16:22
March 26 2020 09:06 GMT
#4
On March 26 2020 17:42 Waxangel wrote:
Well, TIME has been low-key bad in team leagues (besides his amusingly dominant 2v2 run with Dear), so I honestly don't know if he deserves a starting spot over Nice given his past performances.

Still good to have more options and depth, obviously.

Nice did slightly worse in regular season CTC last time (1 extra loss in regular season), TIME did far better in NEXT Autumn than Nice (TIME went 6-9 to Nice's 1-7 and both their teams were in the finals). So it's not like Nice has put out those monster performances that make fielding him an inevitability without alternative.

Having another Chinese player who's favored against his countrymen and who can also hang with the Koreans at least doesn't hurt. More so than improving their own roster, other than DPG any team right now would be seriously improved by having either Nice or TIME (it's undeniable TSG's stock dropped harshly with letting Nice go). Maybe even DPG too but they don't have a reason to stop trusting Firefly. But Kaizi opts to hoard players so no other team has them, I guess.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6997 Posts
March 26 2020 09:18 GMT
#5
Great news fo Time!

That also mean Scarlett is left hanging for now?
Wardi get in here and Sponsor Scarlett! :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 26 2020 09:26 GMT
#6
On March 26 2020 18:18 Harris1st wrote:
Great news fo Time!

That also mean Scarlett is left hanging for now?
Wardi get in here and Sponsor Scarlett! :D

I'm sure it won't take long for a Chinese team to pick her up.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 26 2020 09:29 GMT
#7
Damn KaiZi, leave something for the other teams. :D

Kind of sad we likely won't see Nice that often anymore starting with Week 4. I really liked him last season and would love to see more improvement and development from him over this season, but it's probably going to be hard for him to compete for a spot against TIME.

I'm also pretty sure Scarlett's going to be picked up soon.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 26 2020 09:38 GMT
#8
On March 26 2020 18:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Damn KaiZi, leave something for the other teams. :D

Kind of sad we likely won't see Nice that often anymore starting with Week 4. I really liked him last season and would love to see more improvement and development from him over this season, but it's probably going to be hard for him to compete for a spot against TIME.

I'm also pretty sure Scarlett's going to be picked up soon.

If only Nice knew in advance Newbee was going to collapse and TIME was going to join Kaizi, then he could have stayed on TSG.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 26 2020 10:46 GMT
#9
On March 26 2020 18:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 18:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Damn KaiZi, leave something for the other teams. :D

Kind of sad we likely won't see Nice that often anymore starting with Week 4. I really liked him last season and would love to see more improvement and development from him over this season, but it's probably going to be hard for him to compete for a spot against TIME.

I'm also pretty sure Scarlett's going to be picked up soon.

If only Nice knew in advance Newbee was going to collapse and TIME was going to join Kaizi, then he could have stayed on TSG.

There is that. But I also imagine KaiZi are paying pretty well, so idk how much Nice values playtime against paycheck.
From a viewer perspective I definitely have to say I'd love to see them on different teams.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
March 26 2020 11:13 GMT
#10
Well it's a good move from KZ simply by taking TIME AWAY from other teams. The Chinese-region player slot is a big part of CTC success, and Chinese players who can be realistically be expected to tie or even defeat a Code S-tier Korean player are in scarce supply.

It's weird that Has has been one of the most intriguing and potentially season-changing assets in the CTC scene, but none of the teams have been able to acquire his services.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 26 2020 13:15 GMT
#11
A bit of a shame to see Nice and Time on the same team, I love to see both of them play as much as possible.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 26 2020 13:24 GMT
#12
A bit weird to have all these Terran options on KZ though. But at least making mono-race teams ensure that we don't have to watch mirror matchups
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sylow
Profile Joined July 2019
13 Posts
March 26 2020 13:40 GMT
#13
Maybe Nice would return to TSG
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
March 26 2020 15:03 GMT
#14
There are only two chinese players who got a relatively high chance winning a code-s korean, Time and IAsonu, with IA will probably be in IG for life, every team will be willing to have Time in their hand, good take from KaiZi. I also want to see teams start to buy players from IG or IG acquiring some Korean players to make the rosters stronger.
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 27 2020 11:03 GMT
#15
Quite a powerhouse team, although it looks like SKT in BW with practically (or in this case, quite literally) no Zergs. A Scarlett pick-up could fix that though!
Mine gas, build tanks.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 27 2020 13:16 GMT
#16
On March 27 2020 20:03 Akio wrote:
Quite a powerhouse team, although it looks like SKT in BW with practically (or in this case, quite literally) no Zergs. A Scarlett pick-up could fix that though!

Probably not happening. I don't see KZ still has the budget left to sign her, as the league have a salary cap.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
ImSquanchnHere
Profile Joined March 2019
15 Posts
March 27 2020 16:29 GMT
#17
Thats a sick lineup. They need a Z now!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 27 2020 16:55 GMT
#18
On March 28 2020 01:29 ImSquanchnHere wrote:
Thats a sick lineup. They need a Z now!


If only Misaki hadn't retired. I liked that crazy madman.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 27 2020 17:03 GMT
#19
On March 27 2020 22:16 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 20:03 Akio wrote:
Quite a powerhouse team, although it looks like SKT in BW with practically (or in this case, quite literally) no Zergs. A Scarlett pick-up could fix that though!

Probably not happening. I don't see KZ still has the budget left to sign her, as the league have a salary cap.

Not like Kaizi needs more players anyway with the format being what it is. Options are great and all but if you're limited to 2 non-Chinese players per week, you don't have to get every high profile free agent.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 516
UpATreeSC 173
gerald23 99
BRAT_OK 92
DivinesiaTV 55
Livibee 39
IndyStarCraft 37
JuggernautJason31
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2558
Larva 256
BeSt 243
Hyun 194
firebathero 143
Dewaltoss 132
Mini 124
Killer 89
SilentControl 81
Backho 40
[ Show more ]
Mind 37
Aegong 29
Rock 21
soO 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
Gorgc5994
qojqva3429
420jenkins117
capcasts32
Counter-Strike
fl0m6456
pashabiceps434
Other Games
FrodaN1913
Beastyqt818
ceh9542
DeMusliM298
ArmadaUGS142
C9.Mang0128
XaKoH 115
Mew2King109
Sick105
QueenE99
Trikslyr74
CadenZie40
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream177
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 7
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• FirePhoenix10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 7037
• WagamamaTV540
League of Legends
• Nemesis2951
• TFBlade1132
Other Games
• imaqtpie667
• Shiphtur230
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
6h 10m
Replay Cast
14h 10m
Wardi Open
17h 10m
OSC
18h 10m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 5h
The PondCast
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.