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Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
January 30 2020 23:48 GMT
#21
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 31 2020 00:37 GMT
#22
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?


Cause they believe he will?
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 31 2020 02:20 GMT
#23
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 04:23 GMT
#24
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
January 31 2020 05:22 GMT
#25
On January 31 2020 13:23 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!


I don't believe he beat Maru in the IEM qualifiers. It was a minor online tournament.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
January 31 2020 10:33 GMT
#26
Surprising to see so many people you'd expect to make it actually make it
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
January 31 2020 12:36 GMT
#27
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles
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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1110 Posts
January 31 2020 12:57 GMT
#28
On January 31 2020 04:43 Howard_Kao wrote:
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On January 30 2020 23:38 theICEofNINE wrote:
What in the world happened in that first match between PtitDrogo and Dark!? 2-0 PtitDrogo? Wow! Too bad it was reversed the second time around.


I guess dark went 12pool all-in the first game and drogo went chargelot archon all-in the second with dark having his fourth at six minute mark



Very likely since it was Dark's first game of the day he was either just testing builds or just extremely underestimating Drogo.

Also he could have potentially threw to avoid zest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 31 2020 13:14 GMT
#29
Drogo analyzed his replays on stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/544179814
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 15:08 GMT
#30
On January 31 2020 14:22 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 13:23 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!


I don't believe he beat Maru in the IEM qualifiers. It was a minor online tournament.


Oh yeah I think you're right. Sorry, losing track of all these things!
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 15:12 GMT
#31
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
January 31 2020 16:16 GMT
#32
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-31 16:18:00
January 31 2020 16:16 GMT
#33
Looks like only the Four Horsemen qualifled for Terran
Mine gas, build tanks.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 31 2020 16:33 GMT
#34
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

Considering Flash was propped up in part by bad Brood War balance, this is a bad comparison to make.
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
401 Posts
January 31 2020 17:51 GMT
#35
On February 01 2020 01:16 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )


A couple of years ago Flash said just this -- that BW Terran is closer to SC2 Protoss than SC2 Terran, and he thought he'd be doing better had he played toss in sc2, due to the playstyle preference.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 31 2020 17:59 GMT
#36
I wonder why Cure got so good again, his revival was unexpected considering his age. JAGW at fault ?
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
January 31 2020 18:18 GMT
#37
On February 01 2020 01:16 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )

It’s hard to dominate anything to the extent he did BW without having a huge all-consuming passion for it. Not that I think he hated SC2 or anything but it’s difficult to climb another mountain especially if it’s not your true love.
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SKT1Cassius
Profile Joined January 2020
1 Post
February 03 2020 00:48 GMT
#38
On February 01 2020 01:33 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

Considering Flash was propped up in part by bad Brood War balance, this is a bad comparison to make.


Nice bait
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 03 2020 18:58 GMT
#39
is there not a bracket out? they usually announce it a week before at least
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 03 2020 23:24 GMT
#40
On February 04 2020 03:58 Fango wrote:
is there not a bracket out? they usually announce it a week before at least


Postponed due to coronavirus.
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