• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:26
CEST 04:26
KST 11:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Syncronization issues and can't find games [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6366 users

2020 Super Tournament 1 qualifiers conclude - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
39 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
January 30 2020 23:48 GMT
#21
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 31 2020 00:37 GMT
#22
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?


Cause they believe he will?
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 31 2020 02:20 GMT
#23
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance
TL+ Member
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 04:23 GMT
#24
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
January 31 2020 05:22 GMT
#25
On January 31 2020 13:23 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!


I don't believe he beat Maru in the IEM qualifiers. It was a minor online tournament.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
January 31 2020 10:33 GMT
#26
Surprising to see so many people you'd expect to make it actually make it
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 31 2020 12:36 GMT
#27
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1104 Posts
January 31 2020 12:57 GMT
#28
On January 31 2020 04:43 Howard_Kao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2020 23:38 theICEofNINE wrote:
What in the world happened in that first match between PtitDrogo and Dark!? 2-0 PtitDrogo? Wow! Too bad it was reversed the second time around.


I guess dark went 12pool all-in the first game and drogo went chargelot archon all-in the second with dark having his fourth at six minute mark



Very likely since it was Dark's first game of the day he was either just testing builds or just extremely underestimating Drogo.

Also he could have potentially threw to avoid zest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 31 2020 13:14 GMT
#29
Drogo analyzed his replays on stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/544179814
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 15:08 GMT
#30
On January 31 2020 14:22 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 13:23 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance


I'm Terran and I don't believe that. I think there's excitement around Cure because he's showing good results against amazing players (e.g., beat Maru in IEM qualifiers, narrowly lost to Serral on the EU server despite ping issues). He's currently #2 ranking on Aligulac. I think he's been respected and has had potential for a long time, but maybe just has issues with performing in big games. Will be interesting to see if he can overcome that!


I don't believe he beat Maru in the IEM qualifiers. It was a minor online tournament.


Oh yeah I think you're right. Sorry, losing track of all these things!
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
344 Posts
January 31 2020 15:12 GMT
#31
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 31 2020 16:16 GMT
#32
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-31 16:18:00
January 31 2020 16:16 GMT
#33
Looks like only the Four Horsemen qualifled for Terran
Mine gas, build tanks.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 31 2020 16:33 GMT
#34
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

Considering Flash was propped up in part by bad Brood War balance, this is a bad comparison to make.
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
401 Posts
January 31 2020 17:51 GMT
#35
On February 01 2020 01:16 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )


A couple of years ago Flash said just this -- that BW Terran is closer to SC2 Protoss than SC2 Terran, and he thought he'd be doing better had he played toss in sc2, due to the playstyle preference.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 31 2020 17:59 GMT
#36
I wonder why Cure got so good again, his revival was unexpected considering his age. JAGW at fault ?
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27360 Posts
January 31 2020 18:18 GMT
#37
On February 01 2020 01:16 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 00:12 rwala wrote:
On January 31 2020 21:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

In the SC2 tournaments Flash actually was tier 2 Terran. How many titles does he have? And then we have Innovation. And Maru goes on rampage against said Innovation (one of the fastest BO7 Maru played and he played against Innovation in his prime! (intended ))

But he was good enough for Proleague, so who knows, maybe he didn't care about them solo titles


Yeah, I think Flash eventually realized he was a BW guy. I don't follow that scene as much, but my understanding is that Flash was ridiculously dominant even until the end when he retired. I wonder if there will ever be a SC2 player that achieves that level of dominance, or if there's just something about BW that's different. So awesome that we'll have at least 3 more years to find out!!!

I think that Flash would have dominated SC2 had he chosen Protoss. But that's just my view. I often wonder why he was so good in PL but not that dominating in GSL(and other non-team tourneys). But maybe I remember it wrong :D (also it's not like he was that bad either, he just didn't win everything like Innovation )

It’s hard to dominate anything to the extent he did BW without having a huge all-consuming passion for it. Not that I think he hated SC2 or anything but it’s difficult to climb another mountain especially if it’s not your true love.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SKT1Cassius
Profile Joined January 2020
1 Post
February 03 2020 00:48 GMT
#38
On February 01 2020 01:33 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 11:20 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2020 08:48 Riner1212 wrote:
why is everyone going crazy about Cure he hasnt won anything yet?

terran players believe all tier 2 terrans are Flash-level titans being held back by balance

Considering Flash was propped up in part by bad Brood War balance, this is a bad comparison to make.


Nice bait
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 03 2020 18:58 GMT
#39
is there not a bracket out? they usually announce it a week before at least
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 03 2020 23:24 GMT
#40
On February 04 2020 03:58 Fango wrote:
is there not a bracket out? they usually announce it a week before at least


Postponed due to coronavirus.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Wild Card
CranKy Ducklings124
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 178
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1680
GuemChi 1306
Britney 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever428
NeuroSwarm206
LuMiX2
League of Legends
Doublelift3671
JimRising 690
Counter-Strike
taco 424
minikerr24
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1865
Mew2King120
Other Games
summit1g12530
WinterStarcraft341
PiGStarcraft299
C9.Mang0242
XaKoH 156
Livibee137
Maynarde121
ViBE108
ZombieGrub26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1985
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• davetesta14
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade455
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
8h 34m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
19h 34m
Replay Cast
21h 34m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.