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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
June 18 2019 16:58 GMT
#21
Holy crap... ASUS ROG is back?! When was the last one? Oo;;
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 16:59:35
June 18 2019 16:58 GMT
#22
Extremely good!
The last one took place four years ago.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 17:07:34
June 18 2019 17:07 GMT
#23
Very nice to see ASUS ROG hosting a SC2 tournament. Feeling like Serral being the monster he is is a big part of why since it's a tournament in Finnland.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 18 2019 17:23 GMT
#24
Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking sick
ROGtournament
Profile Joined July 2013
29 Posts
June 18 2019 17:24 GMT
#25
The last ASUS ROG SC2 was in 2015 when PtitDrogo made it to the playoffs as the sole foreigner, but managed to get to the final beating Apocalypse and HyuN in the process. In the final he lost against Losira but it was an unexpected result and a very successful tournament overall. (Wiki)ASUS ROG Summer 2015
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 17:33:56
June 18 2019 17:31 GMT
#26
On June 19 2019 01:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 01:27 Musicus wrote:
On June 19 2019 01:26 HsDLTitich wrote:
On June 19 2019 01:22 Azhrak wrote:
This is gonna be good. Great to see Blizzard awarding WCS points to these kinds of events! With no region lock, I'm hoping for some HSC type of action in a more formal setting.


I think it's WCS Circuit event? IE no koreans

no region lock, Koreans can play, but not earn any points

That seems like a such a strange ruling. Is it really a lot of effort to just add any points they win to the KR standings?

They haven't said how qualifiers or invites will work either so there's a chance not many koreans will end up at the event.

Edit: I wonder when GSL vs The World will be announced as well, the date for it on liquipedia overlaps with this event.


Qualifiers are online. It's a Circuit event without region lock, I guess you could at least appreciate the fact koreans are allowed in the tournament! Maybe they feared too many koreans would try to participate if GSL points were given while the intent of a WCS stop is to assign points for Circuit only.
Actually, how does this work? Are the points won by a non WCS player not assigned or given to the first eligible WCS player?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33514 Posts
June 18 2019 17:42 GMT
#27
Nice! Love to see 3rd party orgs get back into the scene. Fond memories of having 7 community streams open at once for the Assembly/ASUS ROG group stages :o
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 18 2019 17:55 GMT
#28
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 18 2019 17:55 GMT
#29
The hype for this is unreal. Another chance for koreans vs foreigners too!

Honestly even if it was just nonkorean players it would still be sick
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 18 2019 18:00 GMT
#30
On June 19 2019 02:55 Boggyb wrote:
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.


I guess teams pay for flights? Korean players who are already qualified for BlizzCon(or very close to) could easily decide to go, or even those who realistically have few chanches.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
June 18 2019 18:03 GMT
#31
Cool stuff, lets go!
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
June 18 2019 18:05 GMT
#32
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 18 2019 18:06 GMT
#33
On June 19 2019 03:00 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 02:55 Boggyb wrote:
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.


I guess teams pay for flights? Korean players who are already qualified for BlizzCon(or very close to) could easily decide to go, or even those who realistically have few chanches.

If teams didn't pay for flights for an event with a $100,000 prize pool in WCS Spring, I can't imagine why they'd do so for this event.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 18:15:52
June 18 2019 18:13 GMT
#34
Prize money is a bit on the low side, might not attract many Koreans to come.

By the way, if a Korean won 1st, and a non-Korean won 2nd, does the 2nd place get 600, or 1000 WCS point since Koreans don't get WCS points in this event?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 18:16:38
June 18 2019 18:15 GMT
#35
On June 19 2019 03:06 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 03:00 Xain0n wrote:
On June 19 2019 02:55 Boggyb wrote:
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.


I guess teams pay for flights? Korean players who are already qualified for BlizzCon(or very close to) could easily decide to go, or even those who realistically have few chanches.

If teams didn't pay for flights for an event with a $100,000 prize pool in WCS Spring, I can't imagine why they'd do so for this event.


Didn't know they don't, it seems weird to me but w/e. This tournament is first and foremost meant as a WCS stop, evidently; if koreans will come, we'll be happier(not sure if WCS players would be).
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33514 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 18:27:56
June 18 2019 18:27 GMT
#36
On June 19 2019 02:55 Boggyb wrote:
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.


It's basically how the Tier 2-3 tournaments operated back in the 2014~2015 phase of WCS. It will actually be interesting to see how much travel support the players get from the current crop of teams, now that the 'premier' esports organizations have mostly left SC2 (and yes, I agree that there are inherent inequities in returning to this system).
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 18 2019 18:28 GMT
#37
On June 19 2019 03:15 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 03:06 Boggyb wrote:
On June 19 2019 03:00 Xain0n wrote:
On June 19 2019 02:55 Boggyb wrote:
Having WCS points attached to this makes it objectively bad for the game unless they are going to throw around huge amounts of money to pay for flights for qualified players. I'm not sure what flights will cost exactly, but I imagine a player from outside of Europe would need to make the top 8 or even top 4 to break even. That being the case, it would be questionable for anyone but Neeb and SpeCial to attend. That's a big deal since TIME, Masa, and Scarlett are all in contention for a WCS Global Finals bid.

There is no reason a Korean player should attend unless they are given a paid flight.


I guess teams pay for flights? Korean players who are already qualified for BlizzCon(or very close to) could easily decide to go, or even those who realistically have few chanches.

If teams didn't pay for flights for an event with a $100,000 prize pool in WCS Spring, I can't imagine why they'd do so for this event.


Didn't know they don't, it seems weird to me but w/e. This tournament is first and foremost meant as a WCS stop, evidently; if koreans will come, we'll be happier(not sure if WCS players would be).

Why is that weird to you? I don't know the specifics of any player's contract with their team, but the teams are trying to make money. If a player isn't a clear cut top 8 player (and that probably means they have to be top 4) and it takes a top 8 performance for the team to break even, why would they take that risk?
vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
June 18 2019 18:29 GMT
#38
Nice!!! I immediately looked up flight ticket prices...unfortunately I can't go
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
June 18 2019 18:40 GMT
#39
quite unexpected, but great
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
June 18 2019 18:43 GMT
#40
serral bringing back dead tournaments just by existing, what a legend
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