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On June 04 2019 22:23 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2019 22:06 Waxangel wrote:On June 04 2019 21:58 argonautdice wrote:
Still feel like Dark or Classic can't beat Serral. I think there might be something interesting about a "who would I pick to win a BO7 to save my life" rank where Serral and Maru are always top two for an entire year, but I also like our current iteration that factors in tangible tournament results in the present. The only time I would bet against Maru or Serral would be when they face each other. Then I would make it dependant on current form, meta, other factors
This is not 2018 anymore. I'd bet on Inno over Serral and Maru, considering how he's beaten them both twice over.
That being said, a PR is more than just H2H, and I agree with this one here that puts both Serral and Maru higher than a player neither could beat.
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On June 05 2019 02:59 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2019 21:58 argonautdice wrote:
Still feel like Dark or Classic can't beat Serral. I agree with Dark but Serral had trouble against Showtime who isn't anywhere Classic's level. Classic #1 isn't really debatable with his recent results
It might sound generic but Serral plays at like 70% during WCS. Even last year he had trouble with Has, Mana, Showtime, Lambo etc. He should have lost to Reynor in that final, as well as carlett on multiple occasions.
On June 05 2019 03:22 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2019 22:23 Harris1st wrote:On June 04 2019 22:06 Waxangel wrote:On June 04 2019 21:58 argonautdice wrote:
Still feel like Dark or Classic can't beat Serral. I think there might be something interesting about a "who would I pick to win a BO7 to save my life" rank where Serral and Maru are always top two for an entire year, but I also like our current iteration that factors in tangible tournament results in the present. The only time I would bet against Maru or Serral would be when they face each other. Then I would make it dependant on current form, meta, other factors This is not 2018 anymore. I'd bet on Inno over Serral and Maru, considering how he's beaten them both twice over.
INno has managed to beat Serral and Maru both twice this year, then look like shit against basically everyone else. That I can't explain.
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On June 05 2019 01:15 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2019 01:12 yht9657 wrote:
It's really hard to rank Maru at this moment, the guy's basically not played in anything since dropping out of code S. He plays in the Chinese Proleague.
He didn't play that much tbh, also beating Patience, Impact and TIME while losing to Dear in a few online matches doesn't speak that much of his form. Considering Maru is a player who rarely plays in online cups it's also hard to know if his online form reflects his true form.
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On June 05 2019 03:22 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2019 02:59 Charoisaur wrote:On June 04 2019 21:58 argonautdice wrote:
Still feel like Dark or Classic can't beat Serral. I agree with Dark but Serral had trouble against Showtime who isn't anywhere Classic's level. Classic #1 isn't really debatable with his recent results It might sound generic but Serral plays at like 70% during WCS. Even last year he had trouble with Has, Mana, Showtime, Lambo etc. He should have lost to Reynor in that final, as well as carlett on multiple occasions. Show nested quote +On June 05 2019 03:22 pvsnp wrote:On June 04 2019 22:23 Harris1st wrote:On June 04 2019 22:06 Waxangel wrote:On June 04 2019 21:58 argonautdice wrote:
Still feel like Dark or Classic can't beat Serral. I think there might be something interesting about a "who would I pick to win a BO7 to save my life" rank where Serral and Maru are always top two for an entire year, but I also like our current iteration that factors in tangible tournament results in the present. The only time I would bet against Maru or Serral would be when they face each other. Then I would make it dependant on current form, meta, other factors This is not 2018 anymore. I'd bet on Inno over Serral and Maru, considering how he's beaten them both twice over. INno has managed to beat Serral and Maru both twice this year, then look like shit against basically everyone else. That I can't explain.
Inno's TvT has always been pretty legendary (maybe some of the best next to Taeja?) and the Match VS. Serral was a battle of wills--Serral couldn't crack the Machine.
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Dark over serral seems really far fetched.
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Netherlands165 Posts
Happy to have Classic at #1, don't know why you guys keep rating Dark so high every time though
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I miss dave4 on this kind of discussions.
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On June 05 2019 03:19 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2019 23:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 04 2019 22:54 mierin wrote:On June 04 2019 22:11 dysenterymd wrote:
I think that Dark is consistently rated too highly on these lists. Dark's record against other championship contenders in elimination matches must be among the worst of any top player. He may well make the GSL finals since his half of the bracket is a joke, but looking the best in group stages isn't enough to justify #2.
Serral may well be #1 again, but putting him at #3 is fine. Accurately ranking Serral will always be an issue until WCS gets stronger or he plays in more tournaments with Koreans. Out of curiosity, when's the next IEM Katovice-ish tournament (hoping there is one!) that'll give us that? GSL vs the World in August before BlizzCon(we might see something interesting at HSC, tho). Even if Serral is at the next HSC he probably won't face anyone high on this list. Classic can't go, Maru wouldn't, Dark hasn't attended one as far as I know. Serral INno round 4 is the best we could hope for
Luckily INno will win GSL so it will mean a bit more, right? =)
No really, INno is looking fantastic recently and I really think he might do it.
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On June 05 2019 05:41 SamirDuran wrote:
I miss dave4 on this kind of discussions.
I thought he was up to 5 or 6 now?
On June 05 2019 04:56 uThermal wrote:
Happy to have Classic at #1, don't know why you guys keep rating Dark so high every time though
Oh snap. TvZ shadeeeeee!
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Stats should be a little lower imo, but otherwise I think the list is pretty good.
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On June 05 2019 04:56 uThermal wrote:
Happy to have Classic at #1, don't know why you guys keep rating Dark so high every time though
Because up until Code S RO4 he looks like no one can beat him and he's favored against most of the people on the list?
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Dear Serral please play GSL Season 3 we all want the question answered. 😄
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Dark is ranked too highly until he can prove that he doesn't consistently lose against top players.
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Im lobbying for Maru N1 next power rank. And yes Dark always higher than deserved. Trap a bit low
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List is wack imo. Special definitely top 10 after wcs. Serral still no. 1 or no. 2. Hero not ready for the big time. Stats overrated.
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I want to see PartinG finally win the GSL trophy that he has barely missed over and over again for his entire career. I know that people will just complain about Protoss being OP if he wins but I don't care, he's been my favorite player since he first started playing in GSL and I want him to finally get his win.
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On June 07 2019 03:17 sweffymo wrote:
I want to see PartinG finally win the GSL trophy that he has barely missed over and over again for his entire career. I know that people will just complain about Protoss being OP if he wins but I don't care, he's been my favorite player since he first started playing in GSL and I want him to finally get his win.
So do I... one can only dream.
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