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On May 07 2019 07:11 Russano wrote:
How do you choose who to talk about in the title?
Stats looked very solid in this group, seemed to get through no problem.
Fantasy looked super happy that he advanced, good to see real join in a relatively small achievement. He deserves some good results.
Leenock looked like Leenock. Good enough to think maybe theres something more there but then bad plays and throws to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.
Rogue looking totally demoralized. Again. Definitely a player who seems to get into his own head and has losses compound losses. That 2-0 cheese out against Leenock made him die inside. One of the fastest series in GSL.
Considering all of the cheesy bullshit Rogue's done, he's got no room to complain when the shoe is on the other foot.
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On May 07 2019 06:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Haven't watched the vods yet, did Fantasy Mech in both matchups?!
He played both mech and bio in both match-ups. Every game was a different builds, his preperation was top-notch.
Super happy he advanced.
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Leenock was a cold blooded killer against Rogue. Love it.
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On May 07 2019 07:56 leublix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 06:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Haven't watched the vods yet, did Fantasy Mech in both matchups?! He played both mech and bio in both match-ups. Every game was a different builds, his preperation was top-notch. Super happy he advanced.
His harrasment to crawl back in game 3 was very Maru-esque.
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Those Fantasy games were nuts! Especially that last one against Leenock. I thought he was dead 3 different times but he somehow clawed his way back in.
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Yeah. Drilling clawed his way back in.
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Fantasy just keeps getting better and better. Here's me hoping he can win this thing and be the first player to win a bw and sc2 championship.
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On May 07 2019 11:47 SamirDuran wrote:
Fantasy just keeps getting better and better. Here's me hoping he can win this thing and be the first player to win a bw and sc2 championship.
Rain did it already:-)
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Several players did that actually
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On May 07 2019 06:47 Z3nith wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 06:22 Kimb3r wrote:On May 07 2019 06:14 litLikeBic wrote:
those warp prism timing attacks are just brutal. wouldn't mind seeing a minor warp prism nerf tbh This is just horrible... I never really was complaining about balance but those games today and especially last group the aLive vs Creator game was just horrible to observe... there has to be a change.. nerf prisms and/or Immortals Fair enough with aLive and Creator but crying about balance because Stats beat Leenock and FantaSy? We're talking about the best Protoss of Lotv and currently the second best Protoss in the world beating a guy who's best result this year is top 20 at IEM Katowice and another who's only recently returned from military service. Stats is tiers above them no way they were gonna beat him, balance or no balance.
While I agree Stats is leagues above those guys recent weeks showed really how OP immortals are. Quite many times, even if opponent has double army supply protoss just wins, as long as they keep their immortals alive. Its getting ridiculous. Its basically a "one unit to rule them all" type of a unit now.
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On May 07 2019 17:12 kajtarp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 06:47 Z3nith wrote:On May 07 2019 06:22 Kimb3r wrote:On May 07 2019 06:14 litLikeBic wrote:
those warp prism timing attacks are just brutal. wouldn't mind seeing a minor warp prism nerf tbh This is just horrible... I never really was complaining about balance but those games today and especially last group the aLive vs Creator game was just horrible to observe... there has to be a change.. nerf prisms and/or Immortals Fair enough with aLive and Creator but crying about balance because Stats beat Leenock and FantaSy? We're talking about the best Protoss of Lotv and currently the second best Protoss in the world beating a guy who's best result this year is top 20 at IEM Katowice and another who's only recently returned from military service. Stats is tiers above them no way they were gonna beat him, balance or no balance. While I agree Stats is leagues above those guys recent weeks showed really how OP immortals are. Quite many times, even if opponent has double army supply protoss just wins, as long as they keep their immortals alive. Its getting ridiculous. Its basically a "one unit to rule them all" type of a unit now.
Its immortal + wp micro that makes it so strong. Reducing the warp prism factor in some way solves this. Like I mentioned just recently in another thread maybe warp prisms should start as shuttles and require warping in units as an upgrade. Or maybe the long distance pickup is moved to an upgrade. Altering the WP seems like the best solution.
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On May 07 2019 17:27 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 17:12 kajtarp wrote:On May 07 2019 06:47 Z3nith wrote:On May 07 2019 06:22 Kimb3r wrote:On May 07 2019 06:14 litLikeBic wrote:
those warp prism timing attacks are just brutal. wouldn't mind seeing a minor warp prism nerf tbh This is just horrible... I never really was complaining about balance but those games today and especially last group the aLive vs Creator game was just horrible to observe... there has to be a change.. nerf prisms and/or Immortals Fair enough with aLive and Creator but crying about balance because Stats beat Leenock and FantaSy? We're talking about the best Protoss of Lotv and currently the second best Protoss in the world beating a guy who's best result this year is top 20 at IEM Katowice and another who's only recently returned from military service. Stats is tiers above them no way they were gonna beat him, balance or no balance. While I agree Stats is leagues above those guys recent weeks showed really how OP immortals are. Quite many times, even if opponent has double army supply protoss just wins, as long as they keep their immortals alive. Its getting ridiculous. Its basically a "one unit to rule them all" type of a unit now. Its immortal + wp micro that makes it so strong. Reducing the warp prism factor in some way solves this. Like I mentioned just recently in another thread maybe warp prisms should start as shuttles and require warping in units as an upgrade. Or maybe the long distance pickup is moved to an upgrade. Altering the WP seems like the best solution.
It's a tough call, but I think the warp prism edges out the queen as the best mineral-only unit in the game. And you can do a lot more with one prism than you can with one queen.
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Sad about Rogue but really hyped about Fantasy, he showed some SICK games. Can't wait to see what else he has in store, would love to see him go far
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Perhaps, Rogue may need some time for him to recover from this slump. He might not employing some unorthodox plays or playing cheesy as we always noticed during his prime days but I believed he can win the GSL after he regained confidence and morality again.
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On May 07 2019 18:19 swarminfestor wrote:
Perhaps, Rogue may need some time for him to recover from this slump. He might not employing some unorthodox plays or playing cheesy as we always noticed during his prime days but I believed he can win the GSL after he regained confidence and morality again.
Honestly I'm not sure I buy the hype around Rogue as since his last tournament win (Katowice 2018) he has got to the semifinals in only one tournament (Blizzcon). Otherwise he's been out in the ro. 8 or the ro. 16 which is quite poor for a supposedly Championship caliber player. Personally I feel he's very much flattered to deceive since his incredible run of form in late 2017-early 2018.
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On May 07 2019 08:37 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 07:56 leublix wrote:On May 07 2019 06:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Haven't watched the vods yet, did Fantasy Mech in both matchups?! He played both mech and bio in both match-ups. Every game was a different builds, his preperation was top-notch. Super happy he advanced. His harrasment to crawl back in game 3 was very Maru-esque.
I cant believe you said that about actually the worst game of the year
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Congrats to Fantasy! His matches were so engaging to watch. I really like watching him play, it somehow reminds me of the days of MVP back in Wings of Liberty.
GSL really needed some fresh air. 👋
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On May 07 2019 11:10 Ben... wrote:
Those Fantasy games were nuts! Especially that last one against Leenock. I thought he was dead 3 different times but he somehow clawed his way back in.
Leenock was ahead until he threw all his units through the chokepoint. Leenock engagements were so costly that he couldn't recover after wards.
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On May 07 2019 19:15 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 08:37 BisuDagger wrote:On May 07 2019 07:56 leublix wrote:On May 07 2019 06:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Haven't watched the vods yet, did Fantasy Mech in both matchups?! He played both mech and bio in both match-ups. Every game was a different builds, his preperation was top-notch. Super happy he advanced. His harrasment to crawl back in game 3 was very Maru-esque. I cant believe you said that about actually the worst game of the year
The game had some terrible moments, but the way he multitasked with his medivacs was outstanding. He used every ounce of focus to scrap his way back. That's a character typical of Maru when he is behind.
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Fantasy is a real champion no matter how it goes for him in ro16.
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