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Serral and INnoVation to meet in WESG finals - Page 2

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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 16 2019 19:15 GMT
#21
Having previously made the prediction of 2019 being the year of INnoVation, guess there's nothing else but Bogus fighting! ^^
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
March 16 2019 19:16 GMT
#22
its a good thing that INno got through, Serral was most of the time sitting behind Maru while he was practicing and it's quite likely that he figured something out, either way Maru needs to change his playstyle if he wants to keep winning, he has been studied now for too long and sheer mechanics can't carry him all the time anymore, everyone knows what Maru is going to do, as we could see in the series vs INno
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narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
March 16 2019 19:52 GMT
#23
On March 17 2019 02:58 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 02:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:41 phodacbiet wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote:
Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.


Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals


And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL


Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)

We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.

However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.




Then why didn't he participate GSL Code S (not GSLvsWorld) last year when every foreigners could participate?
Top foreigners like Neeb, Scarlett, SpeCial, Reynor, Elazer, Lambo, Ptitdrogo participated Code S last year even when they were playing for WCS Circuit. (although Lambo and Ptitdrogo didn't make to ro32) It is true Serral always dodged Code S even when he had chances in 2017-2018.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4080 Posts
March 16 2019 20:06 GMT
#24
On March 17 2019 03:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 02:58 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:41 phodacbiet wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote:
Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.


Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals


And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL


Serral is not dodging the GSL; the GSL is dodging Serral. :-)

We might’ve seen him play S1 but Blizzard put that rule in restricting players to either pick GSL or Challenger Season 1 so there was no reason for any foreigner to risk giving up Circuit points. Yes, Scarlett stayed, and that rule has since been revoked when they realized that none of the foreigners were willing to risk it points for BlizzCon to play in a prestigious tournament that honestly doesn’t benefit any of them point wise.

However, I think you may get your wish before the year is out but it also depends on his schedule. Participation in a GSL requires an extended stay in Korea as well. Hopefully we have a few more foreigners play down the line: Scarlett plays all the time, would like to see Neeb and Reynor - maybe Lambo and ShoWTimE? back as well - as I think those are clearly the best Circuit players that are capable of making noise in that tourney.


It's not liek Serral cannot sacrifice a season in WCS as he will get the points anyway. And he's the best, so what risking are we talking about? C'mon, it's Serral dodging GSL. You can fly to Korea repeatadly and pretend it's multiple weekenders. You can't do this as a Korean citizen in WCS(you need to live there 30 days before the event once you get the visa).

Do we really ahve to go there every time? Also it's laughable foreigners need protection and when Koreans asked for one it's cancelled because too many good foreigners are scared about their easy points and especially funny it is when it's about t THE BEST PLAYER. Doesn't THE BEST mean THE BEST should win the tournament? So where's the risk? I cannot see it. Or is someone else the best then?

Soooo, nope. He's dodging Code S. (which is fine, I can see why, but don't defend the best dodging code S because the best is risking something...)


dude you already made this argument before and could not provide a single real proof of this. Stop selling your opinions as facts, especially in a repetitive manner without improvements.
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
March 16 2019 20:25 GMT
#25
What's the next major tournament after this?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 20:49:31
March 16 2019 20:48 GMT
#26
On March 17 2019 05:25 NinjaNight wrote:
What's the next major tournament after this?


GSL Ro16 will finish this week.
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 20:55:18
March 16 2019 20:54 GMT
#27
On March 17 2019 05:48 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 05:25 NinjaNight wrote:
What's the next major tournament after this?


GSL Ro16 will finish this week.


Not what I meant, that's ongoing. Looks like the next is WCS Winter on April 14 but I can't tell for sure?
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 16 2019 21:30 GMT
#28
gogooo INno !
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Mudbuddha13
Profile Joined October 2018
9 Posts
March 16 2019 21:38 GMT
#29
lol serral fan boys talking it up again after elimination from IEM, watch them jump on the band wagon when he wins, but when he loses the good old " but he gave them a run for his money imo, next time Serral!" haha.
just enjoy the games happening and display of skill and be happy regardless.

Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 16 2019 21:59 GMT
#30
On March 17 2019 02:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 02:41 phodacbiet wrote:
On March 17 2019 02:26 Kitai wrote:
Oh, good. Now the Serral/Maru debate can stretch to eternity.


Well, Serral kept up his end of the bargain, Maru just needs to stop dodging Serral in the finals


And Serral needs to stop dodging the GSL


Nah if Serral plays GSL Maru will lose the Ro4 and fail to meet him there.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 22:42:29
March 16 2019 22:41 GMT
#31
Before a Serral-Maru matchup gets interesting again they first have to climb the hill of greatness again, because they're not as great anymore. Maru sadly seems to struggle quite a bit while Serral just isn't as great anymore but still shows the potential for starting a year of dominance again. But he also still has to prove the likelihood of that possibility. So far, 2019 just has no clear favorites and therefore a match between Serral and Maru only would've caused many wrong conclusions which probably would've been anachronistically projected back onto the question of greatest of 2018.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
March 16 2019 22:47 GMT
#32
Registering account after some 7-8 months active lurking on trails of Serral. Played few hours of some SC2 campaign half decade or so ago (that campaign where one map has periodic lava flow). No SC2 account yet, and probably won't ever have either. But watching the game a lot. So, no tactical advice from me, and zero comments of imbalance whining!

Hoping that Serral will find his high end game and consistency (that's relative thing in SC2 generally, and with Serral particularly). I think Inno will win this one, even I root for Serral, as he seems to be in top form currently, being also the player whom has seemingly managed crack Serral's game best.

What ever, adversity will do only good for Joona!

Btw. When people always require that Serral should move to Korea to compete against Koreans, why not require equally that some top Koreans (including Maru) would move to EU/NA to compete against foreigners? If it's so damn hard to some Koreans to make a trip and acclimatize to the foreign scenes, why it should be easy and obvious choice to make, and move for foreigners?

Like Korean mass immigration (or Maru's individual) to WCS Circuit scene would somehow lower overall level of the circuit, or if that's most important the World's overall level. It's obvious that if Serral would go to compete GSL, the competitive level of it would rise. Why expect thing other way, but not another around?
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 16 2019 22:57 GMT
#33
Time for revenge after the loss in IEM? I love both players, I think it is epic to see them in a final like this. I cannot be one bit disappointed with Serral vs Inno in the final.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 16 2019 23:04 GMT
#34
Just realized that the scheduling is such that we can watch the ASL finals between the WESG 3rd place and finals.
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UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
March 16 2019 23:16 GMT
#35
On March 17 2019 08:04 pvsnp wrote:
Just realized that the scheduling is such that we can watch the ASL finals between the WESG 3rd place and finals.


WESG's schedule has been horrible to be honest. Not especially bad times for Finns per se, but those gaps between matches.

few days ago I took a nap after that day's matches, only to dramatically waking up from a dream where I was standing against the wall before execution squad, them asking my last wish....

I asked "Let me watch this WESG 2019 to it's conclusion, please."

The dream was very vivid, and awakening rabid.

Better be worth of all idle waiting! Serral! Serral!
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MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
March 16 2019 23:44 GMT
#36
Several did the job, maru didn't...
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 16 2019 23:48 GMT
#37
On March 17 2019 07:57 BaneRiders wrote:
Time for revenge after the loss in IEM? I love both players, I think it is epic to see them in a final like this. I cannot be one bit disappointed with Serral vs Inno in the final.


You know, I wonder how much the "revenge" aspect plays out in a weekender tournament such as this. In a GSL format where you might have a week+ to prepare, I could see players spending that extra time and effort to prepare for a revenge match. But in this case, how much can one prepare given the fast turnaround between opponents?

I'd also imagine for some players, getting too amped on the revenge angle could cause them to play emotionally / undisciplined. It might be the "robotic" players who shut down any potentially distracting emotions (e.g., Innovation, Taeja, Serral) that end up being the most devastating players in this format
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 23:54:21
March 16 2019 23:54 GMT
#38
Honestly I think most people believe Serral doesn't look as good as last year so they think his level dropped. I actually think he's pretty much the same player and the other guys are just playing better now. Will be interesting to see what he can do against Innovation who looks like he might finally be back in great form and reclaiming his title as the best terran in the world.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 16 2019 23:57 GMT
#39
On March 17 2019 08:04 pvsnp wrote:
Just realized that the scheduling is such that we can watch the ASL finals between the WESG 3rd place and finals.


Not necessarily true. The games may start early as it is dependent on the games being played leading up to it. Seems kinda silly not to just play both series back to back... and as anyone who watches Brood War matches knows those matches can take quite a while to finish. It’s quite possible you’d have to stop mid match.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
March 17 2019 00:54 GMT
#40
Grudges and biases aside, everyone should be excited for this match. 3-4 at HSC, 2-1 at IEM -- it could be that TvZ epic we all want.
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