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WESG playoff bracket (RO16) drawn, begins Mar 13 - Page 4

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 00:59:36
March 13 2019 00:14 GMT
#61
On March 13 2019 08:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 07:46 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 07:08 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:33 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 02:06 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 00:10 Tempest wrote:
Serral vs Special in semis, and Maru vs Inno in semis.

Then finally, we shall have our Serral vs Maru Finals dream be almost fulfilled, except right before it happens, the power goes out and we have to cancel the Finals match.

Cause ya know, we will never be allowed to have our dream.

We got Maru Serral in a best of series last year. It was Maru 3-0.

You can't even say Serral wasn't in form at that moment as he had won a WCS and finished top 4 at Katowice or that TvZ was Terran favored. (Maru had to cheese out Dark in the last 2 games to win)

On March 13 2019 01:35 midhigh wrote:
On March 13 2019 00:59 sneakyfox wrote:
Disappointing that Serral ends op in the other half of the bracket than the two Korean terrans


Are you really that surprised?
He also avoided Scarlett/Reynor (who many times almost beat him already) and Special, who is the closest thing to a korean Terran. Not to mention Neeb, who already beat him this tournamet (and b4 blizzcon)..And also Lambo, who seems to be in good form.

Playing SpeCial in the ro4 is the same as soO in a GSL finals: a free win.


That game again? It happened when Maru was starting to peak, months before Serral reached his best level; he clearly wasn't even the best zerg in the world at the time while Maru was on the way of becoming the best player in the world.

Everyone would have loved to see them play against at their peak form(which it was the case for bo1 in GSL vs the World; on the other hand, that game didn't have much at stake and didn't happen in a 1v1 tournament).

It's funny how Serral's peak form coincides with competition and the state of balance.


State of balance? Serral was the only Zerg reaching finals after April in 2018. The funny thing is how hard you are trying to diminish his accomplishments!

Reynor.


I wrote it today in a previous post, I forgot to add it here.
It doesn't especially strenghten your theory, does it?

You need to move the date even more, as DArk reached finals in April. sucks to be you.


It's not the first time you make me doubt of your reading skills; i wrote AFTER April, my statement is perfectly compatible with Dark reaching the finals IN April.

Not to mention how embarassingly childish "sucks to be you" can sound. Is this for real?
RECVoodoo
Profile Joined December 2018
4 Posts
March 13 2019 02:10 GMT
#62
Well here's hoping for our guy Inno!

He's feeling positive!
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
March 13 2019 03:15 GMT
#63
Itching for a big Neeb win.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 03:26:19
March 13 2019 03:26 GMT
#64
On March 13 2019 07:07 Waxangel wrote:
Low-key excited for potential Serral-Dark rematch...

I just want to hear what the winner has to say after the match. Dark, we know what direction it's gonna go... As for Serral, I can only hope he spices it up after another win ;o

As the fictional pro-wrestling booker for SC2, I think Dark needs this win so he can get more heat as our top heel, thus building more intrigue for events down the line


Somebody understands!

Will Serral continue being a nice, calculating guy who's just focused on winning, or is it finally time to twist the knife. Perhaps he'll finally quote the Iron Shiek
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 13 2019 04:10 GMT
#65
Can we just stop for a minute and say this Bracket looks delicious? 😋

I was watching the drawing on TakeTV last night and you should’ve seen how crestfallen the Chinese commentators were when they drew TooDming against Dark 😂

What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.
Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden211 Posts
March 13 2019 07:49 GMT
#66
EZ4ENCE Serral
Before practice, we ate Kimchi soup made my MMA. His cooking has made me so depressed that I think we may lose GSTL." -Miya
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 13 2019 08:35 GMT
#67
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 08:38:54
March 13 2019 08:37 GMT
#68
On March 13 2019 17:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.


Six series per day, not three. They have two days to get through the Ro16 and Ro8, and they chose to divide it evenly by number instead of dividing by round.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 13 2019 08:42 GMT
#69
On March 13 2019 17:37 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 17:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.


Six series per day, not three. They have two days to get through the Ro16 and Ro8, and they chose to divide it evenly by number instead of dividing by round.

My bad, that makes more sense
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 09:17:15
March 13 2019 09:13 GMT
#70
On March 13 2019 09:14 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 08:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 13 2019 07:46 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 07:08 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:33 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 02:06 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 00:10 Tempest wrote:
Serral vs Special in semis, and Maru vs Inno in semis.

Then finally, we shall have our Serral vs Maru Finals dream be almost fulfilled, except right before it happens, the power goes out and we have to cancel the Finals match.

Cause ya know, we will never be allowed to have our dream.

We got Maru Serral in a best of series last year. It was Maru 3-0.

You can't even say Serral wasn't in form at that moment as he had won a WCS and finished top 4 at Katowice or that TvZ was Terran favored. (Maru had to cheese out Dark in the last 2 games to win)

On March 13 2019 01:35 midhigh wrote:
On March 13 2019 00:59 sneakyfox wrote:
Disappointing that Serral ends op in the other half of the bracket than the two Korean terrans


Are you really that surprised?
He also avoided Scarlett/Reynor (who many times almost beat him already) and Special, who is the closest thing to a korean Terran. Not to mention Neeb, who already beat him this tournamet (and b4 blizzcon)..And also Lambo, who seems to be in good form.

Playing SpeCial in the ro4 is the same as soO in a GSL finals: a free win.


That game again? It happened when Maru was starting to peak, months before Serral reached his best level; he clearly wasn't even the best zerg in the world at the time while Maru was on the way of becoming the best player in the world.

Everyone would have loved to see them play against at their peak form(which it was the case for bo1 in GSL vs the World; on the other hand, that game didn't have much at stake and didn't happen in a 1v1 tournament).

It's funny how Serral's peak form coincides with competition and the state of balance.


State of balance? Serral was the only Zerg reaching finals after April in 2018. The funny thing is how hard you are trying to diminish his accomplishments!

Reynor.


I wrote it today in a previous post, I forgot to add it here.
It doesn't especially strenghten your theory, does it?

You need to move the date even more, as DArk reached finals in April. sucks to be you.


It's not the first time you make me doubt of your reading skills; i wrote AFTER April, my statement is perfectly compatible with Dark reaching the finals IN April.

Not to mention how embarassingly childish "sucks to be you" can sound. Is this for real?

So I took the patch history of SC2.

(Wiki)Patches

Patch 4.3.0 BU 15 May 2018 64469 updates only Terrans
Patch 4.2.1 BU 19 March 2018 62848 updates Zerg drops and moves them to lair
Patch 4.1.4 BU 29 January 2018 61545 The big rebalance update
(Wiki)Patch 4.1.4

So why do you take JUST AND JUST AND ONLY may - december period? All the March & April Zerg successes are completely valid, so no, it's not just Serral, it was Dark, Scarlett & Rogue.

Unless liquipedie is missing a balance batch your arguments are invalid.

Edit> if this is about Zerg rebalancing we can argue about drops but that patch arrived on March 19 while Dark reached finals April 5. No matter how you look at it, April is a valid month from patch view you mentioned earlier.

So again, Dark counts, sucks to be you.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 13 2019 09:41 GMT
#71
On March 13 2019 18:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 09:14 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 08:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 13 2019 07:46 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 07:08 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 06:33 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 02:06 Xain0n wrote:
On March 13 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:
On March 13 2019 00:10 Tempest wrote:
Serral vs Special in semis, and Maru vs Inno in semis.

Then finally, we shall have our Serral vs Maru Finals dream be almost fulfilled, except right before it happens, the power goes out and we have to cancel the Finals match.

Cause ya know, we will never be allowed to have our dream.

We got Maru Serral in a best of series last year. It was Maru 3-0.

You can't even say Serral wasn't in form at that moment as he had won a WCS and finished top 4 at Katowice or that TvZ was Terran favored. (Maru had to cheese out Dark in the last 2 games to win)

On March 13 2019 01:35 midhigh wrote:
[quote]

Are you really that surprised?
He also avoided Scarlett/Reynor (who many times almost beat him already) and Special, who is the closest thing to a korean Terran. Not to mention Neeb, who already beat him this tournamet (and b4 blizzcon)..And also Lambo, who seems to be in good form.

Playing SpeCial in the ro4 is the same as soO in a GSL finals: a free win.


That game again? It happened when Maru was starting to peak, months before Serral reached his best level; he clearly wasn't even the best zerg in the world at the time while Maru was on the way of becoming the best player in the world.

Everyone would have loved to see them play against at their peak form(which it was the case for bo1 in GSL vs the World; on the other hand, that game didn't have much at stake and didn't happen in a 1v1 tournament).

It's funny how Serral's peak form coincides with competition and the state of balance.


State of balance? Serral was the only Zerg reaching finals after April in 2018. The funny thing is how hard you are trying to diminish his accomplishments!

Reynor.


I wrote it today in a previous post, I forgot to add it here.
It doesn't especially strenghten your theory, does it?

You need to move the date even more, as DArk reached finals in April. sucks to be you.


It's not the first time you make me doubt of your reading skills; i wrote AFTER April, my statement is perfectly compatible with Dark reaching the finals IN April.

Not to mention how embarassingly childish "sucks to be you" can sound. Is this for real?

So I took the patch history of SC2.

(Wiki)Patches

Patch 4.3.0 BU 15 May 2018 64469 updates only Terrans
Patch 4.2.1 BU 19 March 2018 62848 updates Zerg drops and moves them to lair
Patch 4.1.4 BU 29 January 2018 61545 The big rebalance update
(Wiki)Patch 4.1.4

So why do you take JUST AND JUST AND ONLY may - december period? All the March & April Zerg successes are completely valid, so no, it's not just Serral, it was Dark, Scarlett & Rogue.

Unless liquipedie is missing a balance batch your arguments are invalid.

Edit> if this is about Zerg rebalancing we can argue about drops but that patch arrived on March 19 while Dark reached finals April 5. No matter how you look at it, April is a valid month from patch view you mentioned earlier.

So again, Dark counts, sucks to be you.


Senselessness!
If you make sensible balance changes regarding one race at least two matchups are affected, thus notably differentiating the pre-patch and the post-patch gameplay.

Dark reached the Super Tournament finals in April(patch 4.21), I wrote after April instead of after May(after 4.30) because no Premier finals were played in May.

You are once more failing to understand what I said and reiterating your ridicolous claim, "sucks to be you", while being wrong.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
March 13 2019 16:30 GMT
#72
Are these the only matchups for tonight? If not, Maru and Serral can't meet until the next day at least, right?

PtitDrogo vs Lambo
INnoVation vs Rail
Serral vs Dark
DnS vs Scarlett
Maru vs Neeb
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
March 13 2019 17:16 GMT
#73
On March 13 2019 17:37 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 17:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.


Six series per day, not three. They have two days to get through the Ro16 and Ro8, and they chose to divide it evenly by number instead of dividing by round.


Does this seem crazy to anyone else? Three quarters of the top 8 games will be played by people who have had the evening and prior morning to prepare versus specific opponents and 1 of the top 8 matches will be played by tired players who have allready played high profile best of 5s that day and who came to the site not even knowing what races their quarterfinal opponent was playing?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:29:33
March 13 2019 18:23 GMT
#74
On March 14 2019 01:30 NinjaNight wrote:
Are these the only matchups for tonight? If not, Maru and Serral can't meet until the next day at least, right?

PtitDrogo vs Lambo
INnoVation vs Rail
Serral vs Dark
DnS vs Scarlett
Maru vs Neeb


All of those + winner of Drogo vs Lambo against winner of Inno vs Rail. The entire Ro8 will be finished.

On March 14 2019 02:16 General_Winter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2019 17:37 pvsnp wrote:
On March 13 2019 17:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.


Six series per day, not three. They have two days to get through the Ro16 and Ro8, and they chose to divide it evenly by number instead of dividing by round.


Does this seem crazy to anyone else? Three quarters of the top 8 games will be played by people who have had the evening and prior morning to prepare versus specific opponents and 1 of the top 8 matches will be played by tired players who have allready played high profile best of 5s that day and who came to the site not even knowing what races their quarterfinal opponent was playing?


No?

It's a little odd, sure, but crazy seems a bit much to describe playing two Bo5 series in one day. There are plenty of tournaments like HSC and IEM and that demand more games than that. These guys are pros and will have several hours to rest; it's really not a tall order for them.

And let's be real: Inno can easily defeat any two of Rail, Drogo, and Lambo regardless of format.
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batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
March 14 2019 10:03 GMT
#75
On March 14 2019 03:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 01:30 NinjaNight wrote:
Are these the only matchups for tonight? If not, Maru and Serral can't meet until the next day at least, right?

PtitDrogo vs Lambo
INnoVation vs Rail
Serral vs Dark
DnS vs Scarlett
Maru vs Neeb


All of those + winner of Drogo vs Lambo against winner of Inno vs Rail. The entire Ro8 will be finished.

Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 02:16 General_Winter wrote:
On March 13 2019 17:37 pvsnp wrote:
On March 13 2019 17:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 13 2019 13:10 StarcraftSquall wrote:


What looks weird to me though is the last two matches won’t be played until Thursday in the Ro16 while everyone else plays tonight. Confusing.

That is weird, i mean im sure they could have squeezed in 4 bo5-s into a single day instead of just the 3.


Six series per day, not three. They have two days to get through the Ro16 and Ro8, and they chose to divide it evenly by number instead of dividing by round.


Does this seem crazy to anyone else? Three quarters of the top 8 games will be played by people who have had the evening and prior morning to prepare versus specific opponents and 1 of the top 8 matches will be played by tired players who have allready played high profile best of 5s that day and who came to the site not even knowing what races their quarterfinal opponent was playing?


No?

It's a little odd, sure, but crazy seems a bit much to describe playing two Bo5 series in one day. There are plenty of tournaments like HSC and IEM and that demand more games than that. These guys are pros and will have several hours to rest; it's really not a tall order for them.

And let's be real: Inno can easily defeat any two of Rail, Drogo, and Lambo regardless of format.

i agree, two bo5 in a day is well within the accepted requirments for pros.
and ofc this alows for an equal 6 games a day over 2 days, which is more logic viewership wise.

in anycase, it's looks like we'll have maru vs inno and serral vs scarlett in the semis... in which case we'll have TvZ in both finals and 3th place match.
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