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Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 21:25:00
March 02 2019 21:10 GMT
#1
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IEM Katowice: Playoffs

The upsets continued into IEM Katowice's playoff stage, as reigning WCS Global Champion (Wiki)Serral was eliminated in the quarterfinals. (Wiki)soO—who had narrowly avoided being eliminated himself in the group stage—scrapped his way to a 3-2 victory over the Finnish Phenom, getting one step closer to a long-desired major championship. soO's victory over Serral on Year Zero was one of the highlight matches of the day (and 2019 so far), with soO extracting the GG with just a handful of roaches remaining.

(Wiki)herO's underdog run in the tournament continued as he defeated both (Wiki)Trap and (Wiki)Dear in 3-0 sweeps, seemingly insisting that two-basing is still very much in-style in Legacy of the Void.

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(Wiki)Stats and (Wiki)Dark claimed the other two semifinal spots, eliminating Neeb and Solar respectively. While Stats took care of business in a quick 3-0, Dark was forced to battle his way through an epic, game-of-the-year tier match before securing his spot in the semis.

Terran struggles were another hot topic of IEM Katowice, with Solar's 3-0 sweep of TY in the RO12 eliminating Terran from the tournament entirely. Combined with Maru and INnoVation's elimination in the group stage, StarCraft II fans were left to wonder if the Terran massacre was just a freak occurrence or a symptom of deeper issues in the current state of the game.

IEM will conclude on Sunday, Mar 03 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) with the semifinals and grand final. You can catch up on the games at IEM's official Youtube channel.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 21:14 GMT
#2
all in all a pretty decent day, game 3 was actually insane and I'm super happy soO advanced
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
March 02 2019 21:18 GMT
#3
Pretty stacked Ro4, should be exciting! Just a little sad there's no Terrans left :<

I'm especially looking forward to Dark/Stats.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
March 02 2019 21:18 GMT
#4
just hoping for a hero dark/soo stats final
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 02 2019 21:22 GMT
#5
Serral
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 02 2019 21:23 GMT
#6
Hoping soO finally wins a big one.

Super close nail bitingly close games against Serral were fun to watch. Maru and InnoVation’s total collapse was sad. Terran is fun to watch.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 02 2019 21:27 GMT
#7
Hope burns again for soO. Hopefully it doesn't get extinguished in the finals again.
Denominator of the Universe
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ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 21:33:57
March 02 2019 21:32 GMT
#8
i can smell it. the sweet taste of victory. it's about damn time for dark to win a big one.
ssl was ages ago
I like Dark
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33542 Posts
March 02 2019 21:38 GMT
#9
Even without today's amazing ZvZ games, I'd be pretty hyped for a soO-Dark finals :O
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 02 2019 21:40 GMT
#10
I'm calling it now. Tomorrow is soO's day

(P)herO 0-3 (Z)soO
(P)Stats 1-3 (Z)Dark

(Z)soO 4-1 (Z)Dark

It's the only way for soO to win in a finals.

KONG BRAWL
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 02 2019 21:41 GMT
#11
History dictates that soO beat herO, Stats beat Dark, then Stats beat soO.

That satisfies:
-Dark getting eliminated in the ro4.
-soO losing in the finals
-Stats only being able to win a championship over either Dark or soO.

herO, sadly, is out because he needs to either lose to Rogue or sOs in the finals and neither made it.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
March 02 2019 21:48 GMT
#12
I like a lot the 4 remaining players, so whoever wins I'll be happy..... (Good lord Soo, win this ffs)
mtgrooster
Profile Joined November 2018
12 Posts
March 02 2019 21:51 GMT
#13
This made my day, so happy to see Stats and Soo advance.
I was kinda hoping that Stats would be the one to take down Serral, but I should probably just be happy Serral isn't around to eliminate him.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
March 02 2019 22:24 GMT
#14
no matter who loses in the finals - it will be heartbreaking
herO and Stats have lost IEM Katowice in the finals before and soO and Dark of course have their history of getting 2nd...
Tomorrow will be a sad day
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 22:30:10
March 02 2019 22:26 GMT
#15
On March 03 2019 07:24 Charoisaur wrote:
no matter who loses in the finals - it will be heartbreaking
herO and Stats have lost IEM Katowice in the finals before and soO and Dark of course have their history of getting 2nd...
Tomorrow will be a sad day


and on the glass half full perspective, it's going to be a very happy day for someone tomorrow (soO)

at least everyone is getting paid this time. It's not like IEM Katowice 2014 where even 2nd gets nothing (herO ;; )

(Wiki)IEM Season VIII - World Championship
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
March 02 2019 22:50 GMT
#16
We live in a world where ZvZ is producing the most exciting games of the tournament
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 02 2019 23:04 GMT
#17
On March 03 2019 07:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
We live in a world where ZvZ is producing the most exciting games of the tournament

ZvZ has always had that potential, but for every exciting game, there are five dozen Roach vs Roach or never ending Ling war stinkers.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 02 2019 23:06 GMT
#18
On March 03 2019 07:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
We live in a world where ZvZ is producing the most exciting games of the tournament

except it's not lol
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 23:30 GMT
#19
Stats is definitely my favourite player of the remaining four and I would be happy if he won. But seeing soO win a championship in his final year would be epic and more well deserved than anything.

KOREA'S CHAMPION

REGENERATING THE GLORY

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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 03 2019 00:26 GMT
#20
How do you not cheer for soO at this point honestly
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 03 2019 00:38 GMT
#21
On March 03 2019 09:26 Akio wrote:
How do you not cheer for soO at this point honestly


You'd have to be a dedicated fan of one of the other three players, I'd guess.
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FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 01:21:09
March 03 2019 01:20 GMT
#22
soO proved it again that he is INVINCIBLE before the final.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
March 03 2019 01:54 GMT
#23
Champion soO!
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
March 03 2019 01:54 GMT
#24
And now the big question emerges. Is THIS the tournament where soO finally does it? He's already slain the monster. Now can he cross the finish line?
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Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
March 03 2019 01:55 GMT
#25
On March 03 2019 07:24 Charoisaur wrote:
no matter who loses in the finals - it will be heartbreaking
herO and Stats have lost IEM Katowice in the finals before and soO and Dark of course have their history of getting 2nd...
Tomorrow will be a sad day


Think positively friend.

after tomorrow one of these 4 is guaranteed to have won
Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
March 03 2019 02:02 GMT
#26
On March 03 2019 08:04 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 07:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
We live in a world where ZvZ is producing the most exciting games of the tournament

ZvZ has always had that potential, but for every exciting game, there are five dozen Roach vs Roach or never ending Ling war stinkers.


I think ZVZ is the or one of the matchups most skill level dependent. I mean zvt even low levels ones like in Neuro vs Pig team league are fun, but zvz between the top players or those crazy good specialized european players tend to be awesome. And Serral v z is something else. Like Gumiho v z is something different than tvz
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 03 2019 02:03 GMT
#27
These results proves why StarCraft 2 needs Korea’s Region Lock to stay in place. Serral is an anomaly.

You’re totally right if you argue it isn’t fair; BUT for the good of the game it is what must be.

Also, as an American SC2 fan, super disappointed that Neeb didn’t play better. Did I expect him to pick up after Serral lost? Not really, but I expected better than a 30 minute or less bopping.
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
March 03 2019 02:46 GMT
#28
GO soO! Hope he takes the championship after that epic effort against Serral. He may never win a GSL (lulz), but hopefully a victory here will stave off him thinking about retiring after this year.

Super sad about TY though.
Mudbuddha13
Profile Joined October 2018
9 Posts
March 03 2019 03:19 GMT
#29
as dark said "foreigners will always be foreigners" lol
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 03 2019 03:28 GMT
#30
On March 03 2019 11:03 StarcraftSquall wrote:
These results proves why StarCraft 2 needs Korea’s Region Lock to stay in place. Serral is an anomaly.

You’re totally right if you argue it isn’t fair; BUT for the good of the game it is what must be.

Also, as an American SC2 fan, super disappointed that Neeb didn’t play better. Did I expect him to pick up after Serral lost? Not really, but I expected better than a 30 minute or less bopping.

The results of this tournament indicate nothing of the sort. I count at least 6 non-Koreans having wins over GSL ro16 players (Serral, Neeb, SpeCial, HeRoMaRiNe, Scarlett, and Lambo) and probably as many others having wins over ro32 players.

col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 03:36:07
March 03 2019 03:32 GMT
#31
On March 03 2019 12:19 Mudbuddha13 wrote:
as dark said "foreigners will always be foreigners" lol


Lol

With that said Dark's disrespect has kicked him back in the face as Serral smoked him in the last two times they met (WCS Global Finals and GSL vs the World). As much as I tend to root for the Koreans almost all the time (especially the Korean Terrans), it's been especially satisfying to watch Serral smack Dark down time and time again lately after all the trash talk. If this tourney ended up being a Dark vs Serral finals, I'd be rooting for Serral.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 03 2019 03:49 GMT
#32
On March 03 2019 12:32 col_jung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 12:19 Mudbuddha13 wrote:
as dark said "foreigners will always be foreigners" lol


Lol

With that said Dark's disrespect has kicked him back in the face as Serral smoked him in the last two times they met (WCS Global Finals and GSL vs the World). As much as I tend to root for the Koreans almost all the time (especially the Korean Terrans), it's been especially satisfying to watch Serral smack Dark down time and time again lately after all the trash talk. If this tourney ended up being a Dark vs Serral finals, I'd be rooting for Serral.

its funny cause I don't think Dark will change regardless of Serral beating him, and at the same time his cocky approach to foreigners has been completely validated outside of Serral. He has repeatedly made almost every other top foreigner look like scrubs. Honestly I like that Dark always brings the trash talk cause its just fun and adds a little extra spice to the games
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
March 03 2019 04:48 GMT
#33
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.
Vincenzo
Profile Joined June 2018
11 Posts
March 03 2019 04:55 GMT
#34
'' Combined with Maru and INnoVation's elimination in the group stage, StarCraft II fans were left to wonder if the Terran massacre was just a freak occurrence or a symptom of deeper issues in the current state of the game.''

A mix of both
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 03 2019 05:16 GMT
#35
On March 03 2019 12:49 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 12:32 col_jung wrote:
On March 03 2019 12:19 Mudbuddha13 wrote:
as dark said "foreigners will always be foreigners" lol


Lol

With that said Dark's disrespect has kicked him back in the face as Serral smoked him in the last two times they met (WCS Global Finals and GSL vs the World). As much as I tend to root for the Koreans almost all the time (especially the Korean Terrans), it's been especially satisfying to watch Serral smack Dark down time and time again lately after all the trash talk. If this tourney ended up being a Dark vs Serral finals, I'd be rooting for Serral.

its funny cause I don't think Dark will change regardless of Serral beating him, and at the same time his cocky approach to foreigners has been completely validated outside of Serral. He has repeatedly made almost every other top foreigner look like scrubs. Honestly I like that Dark always brings the trash talk cause its just fun and adds a little extra spice to the games



I agree. A lot of what Dark says and does is for his and the audience's entertainment. He's certainly confident, one may even say arrogant, about his abilities, but he has definitely shown moments of humility.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/539001-dark-reflects-on-his-blizzcon-experience

As a Dark fan, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 03 2019 05:31 GMT
#36
On March 03 2019 13:48 Majick wrote:
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.


Feel like Serral was pretty on point in games 3-5 but in game 2 he definitely wasn't playing at his full ability. On random note, I feel like game 3 showed that the difference between Serral and Maru I feel is that when Maru is ahead he's almost unbeatable whereas when Serral is behind he's almost unbeatable. Serral will surround your army while killing like 20 of your workers before going down lol.
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
March 03 2019 05:39 GMT
#37
On March 03 2019 10:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
And now the big question emerges. Is THIS the tournament where soO finally does it? He's already slain the monster. Now can he cross the finish line?


He might have defeated the strongest enemy brood but let's not forget about the Protoss invaders.
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
March 03 2019 06:39 GMT
#38
I do hope soO will win this tourney. At the very least beating Serral proves to himself that he can still go toe to toe with the world's best.
Big Red Dog!
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
March 03 2019 06:40 GMT
#39
If Serral is gonna go out it's gonna be a really good match, which him vs soO was. Sadly probably only the good series so far in the play-offs :-/ So that's a bit disappointing but hopefully today delives with more close series!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2019 07:11 GMT
#40
On March 03 2019 15:40 Noa Greenini wrote:
If Serral is gonna go out it's gonna be a really good match, which him vs soO was. Sadly probably only the good series so far in the play-offs :-/ So that's a bit disappointing but hopefully today delives with more close series!


Dark vs Solar was also pretty lit. At least game 3 was
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 03 2019 07:37 GMT
#41
Really don't like herO style; and since Stats has so many tourney... I hope that if soO is meant to not win, then it'll go to Dark.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 03 2019 07:50 GMT
#42
On March 03 2019 11:03 StarcraftSquall wrote:
These results proves why StarCraft 2 needs Korea’s Region Lock to stay in place. Serral is an anomaly.

You’re totally right if you argue it isn’t fair; BUT for the good of the game it is what must be.

Also, as an American SC2 fan, super disappointed that Neeb didn’t play better. Did I expect him to pick up after Serral lost? Not really, but I expected better than a 30 minute or less bopping.


as a fellow american fan i expected the outcome

Stats is Neeb's worst nightmare in this metagame. even worse than dark imo.Which is pretty ironic because Neeb's legendary run in the kespa cup came at stats' expense

Neeb struggles vs Protoss players with high mechanics. that's his achilles heel. and Stats is the most solid protoss player on the planet, and just a juggernaut in general.

if neeb got to go through the zergs or terrans instead i think he wouldve had a much better shot.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
March 03 2019 08:08 GMT
#43
On March 03 2019 16:50 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 11:03 StarcraftSquall wrote:
These results proves why StarCraft 2 needs Korea’s Region Lock to stay in place. Serral is an anomaly.

You’re totally right if you argue it isn’t fair; BUT for the good of the game it is what must be.

Also, as an American SC2 fan, super disappointed that Neeb didn’t play better. Did I expect him to pick up after Serral lost? Not really, but I expected better than a 30 minute or less bopping.


as a fellow american fan i expected the outcome

Stats is Neeb's worst nightmare in this metagame. even worse than dark imo.Which is pretty ironic because Neeb's legendary run in the kespa cup came at stats' expense

Neeb struggles vs Protoss players with high mechanics. that's his achilles heel. and Stats is the most solid protoss player on the planet, and just a juggernaut in general.

if neeb got to go through the zergs or terrans instead i think he wouldve had a much better shot.


It doesn't help that his pvp has suffered greatly since the last patch, in contrast to his pvt and pvz which looks better than before. Losing to players like mcanning and astrea recently was always going to spell disaster against top PvPers like stats, zest, trap.. etc. No disrespect to the NA protosses of course, they are excellent players but the top top KR protosses are just terrifying - even the tiniest errors get punished.
Year of MaxPax
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 03 2019 08:09 GMT
#44
On March 03 2019 14:31 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 13:48 Majick wrote:
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.


Feel like Serral was pretty on point in games 3-5 but in game 2 he definitely wasn't playing at his full ability. On random note, I feel like game 3 showed that the difference between Serral and Maru I feel is that when Maru is ahead he's almost unbeatable whereas when Serral is behind he's almost unbeatable. Serral will surround your army while killing like 20 of your workers before going down lol.

Game 3 wasn't just an almost-comeback from serral. He actually did get ahead with better upgrades, hive tech and even supply. soO even looked pretty dead at some points, but then he made some magic happen of his own to win the game after 15 minutes of being behind in tech. Although I guess that does fit your description, where Maru is the one that's unbeatable when he's ahead.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 03 2019 09:42 GMT
#45
i dont think i w ant to stay up and watch soo play. i hope he wins he deserves it but man that would be soul crushing if he falls to stats in the finals or something like that
bestiszest
Profile Joined March 2015
France103 Posts
March 03 2019 10:00 GMT
#46
On March 03 2019 17:09 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 14:31 Anc13nt wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:48 Majick wrote:
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.


Feel like Serral was pretty on point in games 3-5 but in game 2 he definitely wasn't playing at his full ability. On random note, I feel like game 3 showed that the difference between Serral and Maru I feel is that when Maru is ahead he's almost unbeatable whereas when Serral is behind he's almost unbeatable. Serral will surround your army while killing like 20 of your workers before going down lol.

Game 3 wasn't just an almost-comeback from serral. He actually did get ahead with better upgrades, hive tech and even supply. soO even looked pretty dead at some points, but then he made some magic happen of his own to win the game after 15 minutes of being behind in tech. Although I guess that does fit your description, where Maru is the one that's unbeatable when he's ahead.


On that note at some point soO had quite a bank and did not go for +3 attack. I really don't know much about ZvZ, was there a strong rationale behind that or did it look like a mistake?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 03 2019 10:05 GMT
#47
On March 03 2019 19:00 bestiszest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 17:09 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 14:31 Anc13nt wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:48 Majick wrote:
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.


Feel like Serral was pretty on point in games 3-5 but in game 2 he definitely wasn't playing at his full ability. On random note, I feel like game 3 showed that the difference between Serral and Maru I feel is that when Maru is ahead he's almost unbeatable whereas when Serral is behind he's almost unbeatable. Serral will surround your army while killing like 20 of your workers before going down lol.

Game 3 wasn't just an almost-comeback from serral. He actually did get ahead with better upgrades, hive tech and even supply. soO even looked pretty dead at some points, but then he made some magic happen of his own to win the game after 15 minutes of being behind in tech. Although I guess that does fit your description, where Maru is the one that's unbeatable when he's ahead.


On that note at some point soO had quite a bank and did not go for +3 attack. I really don't know much about ZvZ, was there a strong rationale behind that or did it look like a mistake?

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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
March 03 2019 10:13 GMT
#48
soO looks so unbeatable when he has his eyes on getting 2nd place
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#49
ok i stayed up to watch soo beat hero and am happy. soo has beaten serral and secured at least another silver medal. i'm not gonna stay up anymore, hopefully when i wake up he will have gotten first place. not sure if he can beat stats though, but praying for a miracle. go soo!!!!!!!
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
March 03 2019 10:46 GMT
#50
All Hail SoO! Go and get that trophy !
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Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
March 03 2019 11:00 GMT
#51
No terans, no problems for SoO, but them final curse coming.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 03 2019 11:11 GMT
#52
On March 03 2019 19:00 bestiszest wrote:
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On March 03 2019 17:09 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 14:31 Anc13nt wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:48 Majick wrote:
I had the impression Serral looked like he was hangover or still sleeping while facing soO who was perfectly warmed up and aware of everything.

Misclicking his army movements, running into banes, eating biles, reacting too late... very uncharacteristic by Serral.

I wonder if it was soO having this effect on him or maybe Inno broke him somehow the day before.


Feel like Serral was pretty on point in games 3-5 but in game 2 he definitely wasn't playing at his full ability. On random note, I feel like game 3 showed that the difference between Serral and Maru I feel is that when Maru is ahead he's almost unbeatable whereas when Serral is behind he's almost unbeatable. Serral will surround your army while killing like 20 of your workers before going down lol.

Game 3 wasn't just an almost-comeback from serral. He actually did get ahead with better upgrades, hive tech and even supply. soO even looked pretty dead at some points, but then he made some magic happen of his own to win the game after 15 minutes of being behind in tech. Although I guess that does fit your description, where Maru is the one that's unbeatable when he's ahead.


On that note at some point soO had quite a bank and did not go for +3 attack. I really don't know much about ZvZ, was there a strong rationale behind that or did it look like a mistake?

If he has a clear reason, I don't understand it. I think he totally could've transitioned and would've had every advantage.
turnjet
Profile Joined March 2019
3 Posts
March 03 2019 13:50 GMT
#53
What keyboard is soO using?
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
March 03 2019 14:06 GMT
#54
soO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSS
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
March 03 2019 14:37 GMT
#55
On March 03 2019 19:44 fishjie wrote:
ok i stayed up to watch soo beat hero and am happy. soo has beaten serral and secured at least another silver medal. i'm not gonna stay up anymore, hopefully when i wake up he will have gotten first place. not sure if he can beat stats though, but praying for a miracle. go soo!!!!!!!


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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 03 2019 15:32 GMT
#56
oh my god!!!!! i woke up anxiously checking the results, pretty sure stats would've beaten dark and then soo. didn't want to stay up late watching soo get second place again. sad to have missed it live, but holy shit i am in tears!!!!! SOOOO YOU BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL CHAMPION!!!!!!
turnjet
Profile Joined March 2019
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 17:18:46
March 03 2019 16:48 GMT
#57
Which keyboard is this guys?

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turnjet
Profile Joined March 2019
3 Posts
March 03 2019 17:40 GMT
#58
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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 04 2019 08:23 GMT
#59
On March 03 2019 12:28 Boggyb wrote:
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On March 03 2019 11:03 StarcraftSquall wrote:
These results proves why StarCraft 2 needs Korea’s Region Lock to stay in place. Serral is an anomaly.

You’re totally right if you argue it isn’t fair; BUT for the good of the game it is what must be.

Also, as an American SC2 fan, super disappointed that Neeb didn’t play better. Did I expect him to pick up after Serral lost? Not really, but I expected better than a 30 minute or less bopping.

The results of this tournament indicate nothing of the sort. I count at least 6 non-Koreans having wins over GSL ro16 players (Serral, Neeb, SpeCial, HeRoMaRiNe, Scarlett, and Lambo) and probably as many others having wins over ro32 players.



If region lock is lifted, with the talent pool the way it currently is, this is not hyperbole: StarCraft DIES. While no one disputes Korea is an overpowered region the reality is that casual SC2 fan does not want to see a BlizzCon with 15 Koreans and one token foreigner. Yes, it’s been THAT bad. We have lived through it. So know that you’re advocating for the death of a game that’s recovered from that and is now thriving as an esport, because of the region lock. When we see consistent foreigner production against TOP level Koreans... not your Leenocks, but your Maru, Stats, TY.... and they legitimately can win 50% of series that mean something Then this can be revisited. Until then for the health of the game it must stay put.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
March 06 2019 15:44 GMT
#60
On March 03 2019 07:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On March 03 2019 07:24 Charoisaur wrote:
no matter who loses in the finals - it will be heartbreaking
herO and Stats have lost IEM Katowice in the finals before and soO and Dark of course have their history of getting 2nd...
Tomorrow will be a sad day


and on the glass half full perspective, it's going to be a very happy day for someone tomorrow (soO)

at least everyone is getting paid this time. It's not like IEM Katowice 2014 where even 2nd gets nothing (herO ;; )

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_World_Championship

At least there was no 3rd/4th place match.
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