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DubiousC2
Profile Joined June 2016
129 Posts
March 02 2019 00:33 GMT
#21
So sad to see lack of even racial distribution. Makes for less entertaining tournament.
Manner MULE /dance
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 02 2019 00:37 GMT
#22
Serral to take it all. Sad about the terrans.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
March 02 2019 00:45 GMT
#23
On March 02 2019 09:03 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 09:00 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
What part of “Both TY and soO advanced by winning a single map more than uThermal” don’t you understand?


the part where this is false lol


No, it isn’t. Had uThermal won one map that he lost, his map score would be 6:6, which is exactly the map score TY and soO got.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 00:47 GMT
#24
So the final will be Serral vs Stats/Dark/TY, unless soO could channel his inner kong power.
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 00:49:51
March 02 2019 00:48 GMT
#25
On March 02 2019 09:45 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 09:03 herwo wrote:
On March 02 2019 09:00 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
What part of “Both TY and soO advanced by winning a single map more than uThermal” don’t you understand?


the part where this is false lol


No, it isn’t. Had uThermal won one map that he lost, his map score would be 6:6, which is exactly the map score TY and soO got.


now do some calculations and let me know who'd have advanced in this situation. ty who had 1 more series won, soO who won the head-to-head, or uthermal who got outplayed by everyone?
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 00:57:54
March 02 2019 00:55 GMT
#26
On March 02 2019 09:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On March 02 2019 08:40 BerserkSword wrote:
i feel like stats is the only guy there who can make serral bleed


Naw.

soO and TY have a better chance imo. soO for just having incredible ZvZ that can match Serral and TY for being a Terran with a huge arsenal to throw at him.
.


Not if soO plays the way he played today.

As for my prediction, for some reason I have a feeling that Serral will not take this title. I can't exactly tell you why. Maybe it's because he looked kinda lost vs Innovation while Stats and Dark both looked almost flawless. Especially Stats. But I'd also be glad if Serral won this one as well.
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 01:12:22
March 02 2019 01:11 GMT
#27
i don't care who'll win, but i hope to see some good games in the next stage... most games so far have been underwhelming, feeding off "stories" and big names but without that much substance. it'd be nice if someone could take down serral to at least give him a reason to take his game a step further, but it doesn't seem likely... zest vs soo looks exciting, ragnarok vs neeb... i don't want to see another serral vs stats, but koreans are slacking off.. soO has a better chance winning a GSL than an international championship so better focus on that.. gl to all players tomorrow hope they bring some good games!!
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
March 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#28
Dear vs Ragnarok for the finals, you guys hear it here first.
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
March 02 2019 01:38 GMT
#29
On March 02 2019 09:48 herwo wrote:
now do some calculations and let me know who'd have advanced in this situation. ty who had 1 more series won, soO who won the head-to-head, or uthermal who got outplayed by everyone?


uThermal wins the third map against TY. uThermal advances in 2nd place, TY is out in 5th place.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 02:00:19
March 02 2019 01:45 GMT
#30
On March 02 2019 10:38 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 09:48 herwo wrote:
now do some calculations and let me know who'd have advanced in this situation. ty who had 1 more series won, soO who won the head-to-head, or uthermal who got outplayed by everyone?


uThermal wins the third map against TY. uThermal advances in 2nd place, TY is out in 5th place.


nice try moving goal posts, but that's not an argument for uthermal "wins a map;" it's an argument for uthermal winning a specific map, namely beating TY, which won't happen in his wildest dreams: ty is 4-0 against your friend now. anyway, glad the excess weight is off the plane, so we can hopefully have some good starcraft matches instead of overhyped scrappy games from mid-tier players

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 02 2019 02:46 GMT
#31
On March 02 2019 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Amazing bottom bracket. No matter the finalist it will be tough for Serral if he makes it there too.

We saw a huge weakness in Serral's ability to close out late game ZvT against top tier Terrans. If TY plays Serral he now has a game plan on how to win.


The game against Gumiho was the result of lack of proper scouting, the first game against Inno was a 40 minutes death animation due to tons of roasted drones.

Serral's last game against Inno was someway perplexing, he was in a very good position and seemed too passive and indecisive.
After winning the first map, Serral was sure to advance as first in the group even if Solar's would have gone 2-0 so there actually is a question mark on the actual relevance of his subsequent loss, not unlike his 0-3 online defeat against Neeb right before BlizzCon.

Serral played at a quite high level today, committing too many errors(pointless aggression against Solar, not scouting properly against Gumiho, messing up Zerglings' micro against Ragnarok) as well as impressive plays(the astonishing comeback in that game against Solar, for example); the last two games he just seemed a bit off, unlike his usual self.

We might have the answer in a couple of days, or a couple of weeks at WESG; TY's path to the finals is theorically harder than Serral's if we look at the confidence in the matchups they'd have to play to reach them.

I'm quite convinced Serral takes this if he avoids to be such a memer.

starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 03:01 GMT
#32
On March 02 2019 10:16 Colouss wrote:
Dear vs Ragnarok for the finals, you guys hear it here first.

I would actually enjoy this finals lol
herwo2
Profile Joined March 2019
2 Posts
March 02 2019 03:18 GMT
#33
On March 02 2019 10:45 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:38 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
On March 02 2019 09:48 herwo wrote:
now do some calculations and let me know who'd have advanced in this situation. ty who had 1 more series won, soO who won the head-to-head, or uthermal who got outplayed by everyone?


uThermal wins the third map against TY. uThermal advances in 2nd place, TY is out in 5th place.


nice try moving goal posts, but that's not an argument for uthermal "wins a map;" it's an argument for uthermal winning a specific map, namely beating TY, which won't happen in his wildest dreams: ty is 4-0 against your friend now. anyway, glad the excess weight is off the plane, so we can hopefully have some good starcraft matches instead of overhyped scrappy games from mid-tier players

User was temp banned for this post.


lol banned for this give me a break
Astrapto
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
March 02 2019 03:20 GMT
#34
On March 02 2019 11:46 Xain0n wrote:
Serral's last game against Inno was someway perplexing, he was in a very good position and seemed too passive and indecisive.


My theory is that Innovation lost in this group so badly because he was specifically practicing to take Serral out, which he managed to do. In both of those 40+ min. games Inno won, he had the same late-game strategy: siege up w/ air at the third for 20 mins while wreaking havoc with nukes & bio around the map. I think Serral coulda/shoulda tried to bust the turtle rather than letting his attention keep getting split. + Show Spoiler +
The broods/corruptors were circling around uselessly, & the libs/vikings were just sitting idle, while we just watched ghost/medi-vac drop vs. ling/bane/hydra/infestor for 20 mins.


Though it may be his first Bo3 loss in a year, I do think in a Bo7 Serral could figure it out. ...Really, that'd be the series these players deserved.
ALLEN
Astrapto
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
March 02 2019 03:20 GMT
#35
I'd love to be a fly on the wall for Maru & Inno's plane ride home though...
ALLEN
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 02 2019 03:27 GMT
#36
On March 02 2019 12:20 Astrapto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 11:46 Xain0n wrote:
Serral's last game against Inno was someway perplexing, he was in a very good position and seemed too passive and indecisive.


My theory is that Innovation lost in this group so badly because he was specifically practicing to take Serral out, which he managed to do. In both of those 40+ min. games Inno won, he had the same late-game strategy: siege up w/ air at the third for 20 mins while wreaking havoc with nukes & bio around the map. I think Serral coulda/shoulda tried to bust the turtle rather than letting his attention keep getting split. + Show Spoiler +
The broods/corruptors were circling around uselessly, & the libs/vikings were just sitting idle, while we just watched ghost/medi-vac drop vs. ling/bane/hydra/infestor for 20 mins.


Though it may be his first Bo3 loss in a year, I do think in a Bo7 Serral could figure it out. ...Really, that'd be the series these players deserved.


Hahah I do not think that would be worth so much money, not really how it went; however, Serral's strat was inefficient.
I agree Serral could probably figure it out, he'd have lost both a bo3 and a bo5 at HSC but he took the series and the trophy in the end; his attitude during those last games was what surprised me.
herwo3
Profile Joined March 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 04:02:38
March 02 2019 04:01 GMT
#37
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 02 2019 04:08 GMT
#38
On March 02 2019 13:01 herwo3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 12:18 herwo2 wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:45 herwo wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:38 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
On March 02 2019 09:48 herwo wrote:
now do some calculations and let me know who'd have advanced in this situation. ty who had 1 more series won, soO who won the head-to-head, or uthermal who got outplayed by everyone?


uThermal wins the third map against TY. uThermal advances in 2nd place, TY is out in 5th place.


nice try moving goal posts, but that's not an argument for uthermal "wins a map;" it's an argument for uthermal winning a specific map, namely beating TY, which won't happen in his wildest dreams: ty is 4-0 against your friend now. anyway, glad the excess weight is off the plane, so we can hopefully have some good starcraft matches instead of overhyped scrappy games from mid-tier players

User was temp banned for this post.


lol banned for this give me a break


you gonna have to ban all ips and email addresses in the world if you want me out for that post boys. see you tomorrow


Your not the first one trying, good luck with that
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herwo3
Profile Joined March 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 04:14:04
March 02 2019 04:13 GMT
#39
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 04:19:26
March 02 2019 04:18 GMT
#40
On March 02 2019 09:33 DubiousC2 wrote:
So sad to see lack of even racial distribution. Makes for less entertaining tournament.


Terran are getting crushed at IEM. Only 1/8 Terran in WCS EU. And just 2/8 Terran in WCS NA.
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