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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 27 2019 12:35 GMT
#41
Group A is funny. Weirdly enough, Patience has a much better chance to go through this group than any other possible group.
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tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 13:12 GMT
#42
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer


DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2019 13:17 GMT
#43
lol
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 13:40 GMT
#44
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 13:51 GMT
#45
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 27 2019 13:56 GMT
#46
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

he made GSL ro16 and got to the finals of a WCS tournament? I'd definitely put that over Lambo's achievements.
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2019 13:58 GMT
#47
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:18:10
February 27 2019 14:06 GMT
#48
"charoisaur" no need to argue with this korean fanboy who puts gsl over everything
your past comments about a gsl victory vs blizzcon and your comments about serral
just disqualifiying you of beeing objectiv
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 14:13 GMT
#49
On February 27 2019 22:58 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.



i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished
sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 14:18 GMT
#50
On February 27 2019 23:13 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:58 DBooN wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.



i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished
sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer


lol how is winning some german tournament a bigger achievement than making the wcs finals? the former awarded $1,700, the latter awarded $10,000. i don't think lambo himself thinks he's more accomplished than reynor
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:34:19
February 27 2019 14:32 GMT
#51
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now



herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:42:39
February 27 2019 14:41 GMT
#52
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 27 2019 14:43 GMT
#53
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now




Elazer's results in wcs last year consisted of a two ro8 finishes and two exits in the the 3rd group stage and finished below Reynor in wcs points so putting him above Reynor based of last years results is questionable at best
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
February 27 2019 15:07 GMT
#54
On February 27 2019 23:41 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?


Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite

WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.

All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.

IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.
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herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 15:24 GMT
#55
On February 28 2019 00:07 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 23:41 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?


Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite

WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.

All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.

IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.


also some luck with the bracket. all 3 of them managed to beat only 1 korean, but reynor had to face 3. but i agree they're all on the same tier
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 15:41:24
February 27 2019 15:32 GMT
#56
I think it's undeniable that Reynor was the third most successful zerg foreigner last year with his WCS finals, GSL Ro16 and WESG Ro8... behind of course Serral (Blizzcon, 4WCS, blabla...) and Scarlett (IEM win, GSL Ro8, WESG Ro8).

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 27 2019 16:16 GMT
#57
was it random draw or was it preordained which position from 1,2,3,4 go to group A, B, C, D?
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Elinahiriu
Profile Joined February 2019
2 Posts
February 27 2019 16:34 GMT
#58
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Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 27 2019 17:06 GMT
#59
On February 28 2019 01:16 Geo.Rion wrote:
was it random draw or was it preordained which position from 1,2,3,4 go to group A, B, C, D?


I think it was a random draw but with some conditions like every group will get 2 players from the winner's bracket and 1 from the losers and no players seeded into the group share an open bracket.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 27 2019 17:07 GMT
#60
I do fear for Serral
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