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herwo
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February 26 2019 18:08 GMT
#21
On February 27 2019 02:53 Xain0n wrote:
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On February 27 2019 02:09 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 01:17 Xain0n wrote:
On February 27 2019 01:08 herwo wrote:
On February 26 2019 23:27 Xain0n wrote:
Korean midtiers are performing better than they have done in a significant amount of time, if he we had to judge from these last 28 hours the gap is wide open and actually increasing; thus said,the majority of the results considered involve mid/low level foreigners.

What indeed is surprising is Creator beating Reynor and aLive beating ShoWTimE1
It really feels like 2013, top foreigners are expected to lose against top koreans most of the times but they have been recently favored against non top tier koreans for good reasons.

Implying these results are the norm nowadays is being detached from reality.


what about impact 2-0 elazer? or trust 2-0 lambo? perhaps these are all statistical flukes, and the objective reality is that in which results and facts are trumped by subjective interpretations of "close games" and chance. meanwhile, i'll stick with numbers


Not sure if you read what I personally wrote or you are confusing me for the guys above me speaking of closeness of games and level of play.

To find a IEM qualifier worse than this for foreigners you have to drive four years back in time, in an era where Korean domination was total and completely unmatched.
Treating similar results as ordinary is being extremely korean biased, that is not what we were accustomed to observe these last years.


then i don't know who you're arguing with or why you co-opted my phrase about being detached from reality if you weren't hinting at my position... people in this thread were claiming that foreigners are proving that the gap is closing in this tournament, and i said it's a baseless position. i wasn't talking about a trend

I am indeed arguing with you as a single tournament rarely is meaningful unless something historical or unprecedent is achieved whereas trends usually are closer to the truth.



you're not arguing with me, you're arguing with a straw man you built... i didn't claim any of these if you took the time to read the posts
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 26 2019 18:18 GMT
#22
On February 27 2019 02:09 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 01:17 Xain0n wrote:
On February 27 2019 01:08 herwo wrote:
On February 26 2019 23:27 Xain0n wrote:
Korean midtiers are performing better than they have done in a significant amount of time, if he we had to judge from these last 28 hours the gap is wide open and actually increasing; thus said,the majority of the results considered involve mid/low level foreigners.

What indeed is surprising is Creator beating Reynor and aLive beating ShoWTimE1
It really feels like 2013, top foreigners are expected to lose against top koreans most of the times but they have been recently favored against non top tier koreans for good reasons.

Implying these results are the norm nowadays is being detached from reality.


what about impact 2-0 elazer? or trust 2-0 lambo? perhaps these are all statistical flukes, and the objective reality is that in which results and facts are trumped by subjective interpretations of "close games" and chance. meanwhile, i'll stick with numbers


Not sure if you read what I personally wrote or you are confusing me for the guys above me speaking of closeness of games and level of play.

To find a IEM qualifier worse than this for foreigners you have to drive four years back in time, in an era where Korean domination was total and completely unmatched.
Treating similar results as ordinary is being extremely korean biased, that is not what we were accustomed to observe these last years.


then i don't know who you're arguing with or why you co-opted my phrase about being detached from reality if you weren't hinting at my position... people in this thread were claiming that foreigners are proving that the gap is closing in this tournament, and i said it's a baseless position. i wasn't talking about a trend


I'm not the only one then, since nobody claimed the gap was closing in this tournament. Even if someone would(and it was not a serious statement), you have been providing data from these qualifiers alone to invalidate this statement and I am saying they not especially relevant unless they are followed by other similar results.
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