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Group Ceremony Nonsense: Code S Season 1

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Group Ceremony Nonsense: Code S Season 1

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February 21st, 2019 22:20 GMT

Code S Season 1: Group Ceremony Nonsense

Written by Wax

The awkward marriage of reality television and esports returned to AfreecaTV as sixteen Korean gamers participated in the first GSL Group Nomination of 2019. GSL players must think long and hard about their choice of round-of-sixteen opponent as it could make or break their playoff chances—what a perfect thing to exploit for fan entertainment! Here's how things went this time around:

2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 1 - Code S


THE RULES
• The top four players from the previous Code S are seeded into separate groups (A-D-C-B order)
• First four picks are made in order of seeding (#1 seed gets 1st pick, #2 seed gets 2nd pick, etc.)
• Remaining eight picks are made in "snake draft" order, starting from Group D
• After all picks are made, the #1 seed can swap any player in his group for a non-seeded player in another group.

THE PICKS - (pick order in parentheses)

Group A: Maru -> (1) Impact -> (4, SWAP) Bunny --> (9) Patience
Group B: Dark --> (8, SWAP) herO -> (7) Cure -> (10) Dear
Group C: Classic --> (3) Trap -> (6) INnoVation --> (11) sOs
Group D: TY --> (2) GuMiho --> (5) soO --> (12) Rogue

If this still leaves you utterly confused, don't worry: that's how everyone feels.



The full Group Nomination VODs


Mizenhauer declined to do his Group Nomination Grades for unknown reasons. Perhaps it's because he didn't want to jinx soO, who seems to be playing well lately. Or perhaps it's because grading the seeded players based on a chain reaction they have barely any control over is dumb. Anyway, here are some of my observations and highlights from the show.

Rogue Incinerates INnoVation

At last, we have undeniable proof that (Wiki)INnoVation isn't a ruthless StarCraft II playing machine created in a lab. Because, only a human could have his soul so brutally ripped out by (Wiki)Rogue.

With the second to last pick, INnoVation faced a decision between sOs or Rogue as his opponent. When INnoVation stated he preferred a Protoss opponent, Rogue took to the mic for an unprovoked verbal assault.

"Even if I taunt him, INnoVation won't pick me because he's afraid of me. He's too shook."

Asked by the announcers who would win in a ten game series, Rogue continued.

"...without Hellion run-bys, I think it would be a beatdown in macro games."

INnoVation tried to play it cool, saying he'd see Rogue at IEM. Rogue responded by saying "Serral and I will make it so INnoVation can't breathe." (The three are in the same RO24 group at IEM)

Ultimately, INnoVation ended up picking sOs to complete a three-Protoss group, giving himself a considerable practice advantage. While it was certainly the correct, winning move in the big picture of Code S, one must wonder if it was worth getting murdered in broad daylight.

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TFW your friends roast you but it's all 100% true.


Maru's Make-a-Wish Foundation

The #1 seed advantage of picking two opponents is impossible to f*** up, so we got to see (Wiki)Maru virtually ensure himself RO8 advancement for the third straight season. However, while Maru holding court has gotten pretty stale, at least it's given us a humorous wrinkle where players now WANT to get picked into Maru's group.

No, no one actually thinks they can beat Maru—that much hasn't changed in 2019. However, players now realize that getting second place in a Maru group might be easier than finishing top two in a 'normal' group. It makes sense in theory: if Maru always picks the two worst players in the RO16, then wouldn't you want to ride that gravy train to the quarterfinals?

Think about it this way: One of Patience, Bunny, or Impact is making it to the Code S quarterfinals. I repeat, ONE OF PATIENCE, BUNNY, OR IMPACT IS MAKING IT TO THE CODE S QUARTERFINALS. These are players who may not even be expected to reach the RO16. In a way, being put in Group Maru is one of the best things that's happened in their careers. Let's applaud Maru for being a champion both in and outside the game, remembering his humble roots and giving back to less fortunate progamers.

This Adorable Thing


Dear's "you're not gonna let me have the mic?" is the closest thing to real anger we'll see unless MyuNgSik comes back.


For a moment, Dark was happy that he had finally ended up with a RO16 group that wasn't brutally hard: Bunny, Cure, Dear, and himself. Then, Maru threatened to ruin everything by stealing Bunny away and replacing him with herO.

Cure and Bunny were delighted at the suggestion—Cure wanted to dodge TvT while Bunny seemed to prefer playing vs Patience and Impact. On the other hand, Dark and Dear were incensed at the prospect of anyone messing with the delicious Terran cream in the center of the Group B...

But Here Are Some Grades Anyway

Yeah, grading seeded players is a silly exercise, but you guys seem to enjoy it.

#1 seed: Maru (faces Impact, Bunny, and Patience)

Some might say this is the easiest RO16 group in GSL history, but does (Wiki)Maru really deserve that much credit here? As mentioned before, it's almost nearly impossible to pick a bad group as the #1 seed. Furthermore, Maru forced himself to prep for all three races by swapping for Bunny in order to help out teammate Cure. Maru might be an S-tier friend, but this isn't an S-tier group. Grade: A-

#4 seed: Dark (faces herO, Cure, and Dear)

(Wiki)Dark was unusually perturbed when Maru swapped Bunny for herO, leaving viewers to wonder 'is there really a big difference?' However, GSL casters have previously mentioned that herO had to take a break for unspecified 'personal reasons' for part of 2018, which might explain his drop in form. He certainly did look like the lovable Protoss bulls***er of old against Scarlett. Anyway, Dark finally has a RO16 group he can call kinda easy, which is a big win for him. Grade: A-

#3 seed: Classic (faces Trap, INnoVation, and sOs)

While (Wiki)Classic 2-0'd Trap in the RO32, the games were hardly one-sided enough to call this an obvious pick for Classic. Then again, it's Trap, who hasn't made it out of the Code S RO16 for literally years. Maybe it was the big-brain play that everyone else in the Group Nominations should have been thinking of. INnoVation and sOs are probably pretty good, though. Oh well! Grade: B

#2 seed: TY (faces GuMiho, soO, and Rogue)

(Wiki)TY faces the toughest RO16 group among the seeded players, but I'm gonna cut him some slack. GuMiho seemed like a bonkers pick at #2, but it was a reasonable-ish middle-ground pick if he was worried about herO/Bunny/whoever getting stolen by Maru at the end. Let's not forget that in 2018, TY showed us he had TvT on par with Maru, while GuMiho showed us that he can fail to qualify for Super Tournament with a BlizzCon spot on the line. Also, getting stuck with Rogue was just a byproduct of the snake-draft format, where the #2 seed always receives the final 'pick' of the draft. Blame GSL for that one. Grade: C+



Credits and acknowledgements

Written by: Wax
Editor: Wax (wow!)
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com

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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 22:37:09
February 21 2019 22:33 GMT
#2
Thank you for the article.
And Maru's group seems really nice for Maru.
It would be something if he somehow doesn't make it through.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 22:58:15
February 21 2019 22:47 GMT
#3
Rogue really didn't want to join the Group of Death, did he?

But really, Rogue in that group is perfect. TY had an entertaining series with him at Blizzcon, soO has the grudge from the Blizzcon before that, and Gumiho adds a refreshing dash of chaos. Expecting some great games; all that TvZ without any Protoss to muck it up.
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EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
February 22 2019 00:03 GMT
#4
Really can't wait to see Group B, C and D. 2-3 weeks seems like a long time but at least we'll have IEM during the break.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 22 2019 00:34 GMT
#5
TY, Rogue, soO, and Gumiho in the same group? Goodness lol.
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CloudCat
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore160 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 04:14:23
February 22 2019 03:15 GMT
#6
Group nominations is the best nonsense of every season. This is the only time the guys bring their personality! Was really hoping that MC gets through just to bring the trash talk and nonsense but that roast by Rogue was so savage and utterly satisfying to watch.

What I don't get is why Maru didn't bring Cure to his group if he really wanted Cure to advance. Going by expected results, if Maru gets out first with Cure getting out second, Cure is doomed in the ro8 anyway.. Cure could have just ditched practicing TvT if he was in Group A and focused on smashing Patience and Impact.

edit: also, they got rid of the MVP voting that made zero sense anyway?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 03:35:02
February 22 2019 03:34 GMT
#7
Rogue might want to be humble with his record ...
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 22 2019 07:29 GMT
#8
This is something i also try to not miss even if i can't see all the games. It's funny and stupid but... Every time people told me about "faceless koreans" i'd show them this and tell them : "Let's see what they can do in a language their own language".
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 22 2019 08:59 GMT
#9
Thanks for the write up. Hope they never stop doing group selections like this.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 22 2019 09:17 GMT
#10
On February 22 2019 12:34 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Rogue might want to be humble with his record ...

Wtf is that, Rogue has been getting stomped by Inno. Didn't know it looked like that, would never have guessed, makes the matchup even more hyped =D
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
TrashPanda
Profile Joined July 2018
69 Posts
February 22 2019 09:18 GMT
#11
I would go even further saying Maru has not only set up a really nice group for himself, and one for his teammate Cure too, additionally he has a group of death for the one player he fears most: TY.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 09:21:48
February 22 2019 09:20 GMT
#12
On February 22 2019 18:18 TrashPanda wrote:
I would go even further saying Maru has not only set up a really nice group for himself, and one for his teammate Cure too, additionally he has a group of death for the one player he fears most: TY.


Pretty sure he's more scared of Rogue and/or sOs than TY. But all three of them are in for a rough trip, so Maru's probably satisfied regardless.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
February 22 2019 09:41 GMT
#13
On February 22 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 18:18 TrashPanda wrote:
I would go even further saying Maru has not only set up a really nice group for himself, and one for his teammate Cure too, additionally he has a group of death for the one player he fears most: TY.


Pretty sure he's more scared of Rogue and/or sOs than TY. But all three of them are in for a rough trip, so Maru's probably satisfied regardless.

Why?
He confidently stomped Rogue in Super Tournament just before BlizzCon iirc, while he really struggled against TY in the finals. Has TvT or TvZ changed that much for him to be more scared of Rogue than TY?

About sOs yeah probably, rough losses
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 22 2019 09:59 GMT
#14
Love this article, thanks.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4963 Posts
February 22 2019 10:02 GMT
#15
Group Selection is a diamond of esports. Magnifique
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 22 2019 10:20 GMT
#16
On February 22 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 18:18 TrashPanda wrote:
I would go even further saying Maru has not only set up a really nice group for himself, and one for his teammate Cure too, additionally he has a group of death for the one player he fears most: TY.


Pretty sure he's more scared of Rogue and/or sOs than TY. But all three of them are in for a rough trip, so Maru's probably satisfied regardless.


Maru said several times last year that TY is the only player who worries him.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 22 2019 10:37 GMT
#17
On February 22 2019 19:20 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
On February 22 2019 18:18 TrashPanda wrote:
I would go even further saying Maru has not only set up a really nice group for himself, and one for his teammate Cure too, additionally he has a group of death for the one player he fears most: TY.


Pretty sure he's more scared of Rogue and/or sOs than TY. But all three of them are in for a rough trip, so Maru's probably satisfied regardless.


Maru said several times last year that TY is the only player who worries him.

Yes but I think he rather play TY than sOs or Rogue, not because he is scared of them but because of the awkwardness. Practising becomes a problem and so on
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
February 22 2019 11:00 GMT
#18
Always love your article Wax Thanks
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
February 22 2019 11:16 GMT
#19
awesome article. Hype!
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
February 22 2019 13:43 GMT
#20
Thanks for the article!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 22 2019 14:23 GMT
#21
That Rogue vs INno banter was really funny tbh
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Valyrian
Profile Joined August 2015
41 Posts
February 22 2019 16:46 GMT
#22
Good article. But I really think the rules of this process need to be tweaked a bit. Why are top ranked players given further advantages to hand pick their easiest opponents? The phrase Maru holding court really is appropriate. As a viewer I would prefer Maru or any first ranked player being challenged before the semifinals.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 22 2019 20:06 GMT
#23
ROZLCOPTER maru make a wish foundation too good

but yeah poor soo he got screwed, but i pray for a miracle and hope he stomps rogue
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
February 23 2019 10:53 GMT
#24
On February 23 2019 01:46 Valyrian wrote:
Good article. But I really think the rules of this process need to be tweaked a bit. Why are top ranked players given further advantages to hand pick their easiest opponents? The phrase Maru holding court really is appropriate. As a viewer I would prefer Maru or any first ranked player being challenged before the semifinals.

I think that simply removing the swap machanic would be enough.
It creates too big of an advantage not to mention the confusion.
Although it also creates funny situations and interactions between players so I can see why they keep it.
sOs TY PartinG
quilajino
Profile Joined January 2018
Brazil46 Posts
February 25 2019 04:51 GMT
#25
On February 23 2019 19:53 egrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2019 01:46 Valyrian wrote:
Good article. But I really think the rules of this process need to be tweaked a bit. Why are top ranked players given further advantages to hand pick their easiest opponents? The phrase Maru holding court really is appropriate. As a viewer I would prefer Maru or any first ranked player being challenged before the semifinals.

I think that simply removing the swap machanic would be enough.
It creates too big of an advantage not to mention the confusion.
Although it also creates funny situations and interactions between players so I can see why they keep it.

Not having Dear and Bunny fighting over Maru/Cure's love would indeed make this so much less fun
TY #1 | Forever a Dear/Bunny/Hurricane/Creator/TIME believer. Also Mini.
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