EPTLiquid`TaeJa: The Prince Returns - Page 8
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boxerfred
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IshinShishi
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youcantguardme
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_fool
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CakeSauc3
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JoeCool
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That beeing said, is there any progamer who returned after some time and won anything? | ||
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dummy1
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On September 26 2018 20:31 JoeCool wrote: I was never a fan of TaeJa and I'll probably never be one but I'm still really happy for anyone who decides to come back to this glorious game. :-) That beeing said, is there any progamer who returned after some time and won anything? Until now very few players came back after a serious hiatus at all. And many of them just quite recently. I think Stephano might be the most promising player to achieve such a feat, considering that he became a serious contender this year again and just needs to fix his zvz to get really dangerous. Parting also looks quite promising. He just needs time and has to take the competition serious - I'm not quite sure about that ^^ Fantasy is making good progress, too. But considering that he's never really breaken throug in SC2 he'd have to climb to new heights, to win somethin. We can't say very much about Taeja so far. He didn't look like garbage so far but we didn't have enough examples yet. Perhaps we'll know more after HSC if he gets invited. Other examples like MMA, Genius, Ragnarok or TOP don't look like they're getting back into the game. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 26 2018 16:58 youcantguardme wrote: calling it now, he won't win shit. User was temp banned for this post. Nonsense he'll win our hearts. If a semi-retired Taeja can do this: he can at least accomplish that | ||
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brickrd
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Mozdk
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Rodya
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On September 26 2018 20:31 JoeCool wrote: I was never a fan of TaeJa and I'll probably never be one but I'm still really happy for anyone who decides to come back to this glorious game. :-) That beeing said, is there any progamer who returned after some time and won anything? Brood War obviously has a ton of examples. Mata from LoL basically retired for a year or more and is once again the best support in the world and maybe best player in the world (won the Korean league too I think). Bengi retired for a year and came back to win the world championship. SC2 doesn't have many examples because there aren't many examples of top players retiring and then returning. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On September 27 2018 12:30 Rodya wrote: Brood War obviously has a ton of examples. Mata from LoL basically retired for a year or more and is once again the best support in the world and maybe best player in the world (won the Korean league too I think). Bengi retired for a year and came back to win the world championship. SC2 doesn't have many examples because there aren't many examples of top players retiring and then returning. Byun dropped off the face of the Earth for 2 years, came back, and won GSL and Blizzcon. | ||
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Zephyp
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On September 27 2018 12:30 Rodya wrote: Brood War obviously has a ton of examples. Mata from LoL basically retired for a year or more and is once again the best support in the world and maybe best player in the world (won the Korean league too I think). Bengi retired for a year and came back to win the world championship. SC2 doesn't have many examples because there aren't many examples of top players retiring and then returning. Forgive my lack of knowledge about other games, but wouldn't it be easier to return to a MOBA than SC2? Aren't the mechanics and especially requirements for speed higher for SC2 since you constantly have to manage multiple bases, armies, support units etc? I haven't played LoL, but from some streams it looks more about micro management, positioning, tactics and accuracy, while in SC2 things happen quicker and you have to change camera location all the time. You also have to manage a lot more units. A two-year absence in military puts a big damper on mechanics, including the fact you get older. The faster a game moves, the more age makes a difference and young players can excel. I hope Taeja will do well in his comeback. Even if he doesn't win anything premiere, just playing in the tournaments and making it entertaining. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On September 27 2018 14:56 Zephyp wrote: Forgive my lack of knowledge about other games, but wouldn't it be easier to return to a MOBA than SC2? Aren't the mechanics and especially requirements for speed higher for SC2 since you constantly have to manage multiple bases, armies, support units etc? I haven't played LoL, but from some streams it looks more about micro management, positioning, tactics and accuracy, while in SC2 things happen quicker and you have to change camera location all the time. You also have to manage a lot more units. A two-year absence in military puts a big damper on mechanics, including the fact you get older. The faster a game moves, the more age makes a difference and young players can excel. I hope Taeja will do well in his comeback. Even if he doesn't win anything premiere, just playing in the tournaments and making it entertaining. Mechanics in LoL are lower in the sense that there is less thing to do but it's very micro and positioning intensive and those things are pretty much as "hard" as Starcraft mechanics, you need to work on it as much as sc2 macro-micro, so if they were able to build their mecanics back I would guess Taeja could too even if it's not exactly the same kind of mecanics. If his wrist stay healty I would not worry to much about his mechanics, when you had it once it's much easier to get it back, altough it dosen't mean he's gonna as good as before, but it's not just a mechanical thing. And for the age thing I am not sure, I know it's common knowledge to say the reflexes are worst when you grow older, but at the same time if you look at the FGC a lot of the top tier performer are well in their 30 and those games need super fast reflexes. Sako won 2 premier Street Fighter 5 event this year at age 40 so I would think that if you keep working and have already a big experience your reflexes dosen't get too bad. Esport are still very young it's hard to know how long a carrer can last especially since there is a rotation in the games. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On September 27 2018 13:42 Solar424 wrote: Byun dropped off the face of the Earth for 2 years, came back, and won GSL and Blizzcon. You're right. Somehow I totally forgot to take Byun into consideration. Broodwar isn't a good reference. Most comebacks have been done by players who didn't actually retire but switched to SC2 and then returned to BW. Those players never stopped training their mechanics. | ||
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Zephyp
238 Posts
On September 27 2018 15:45 fronkschnonk wrote: You're right. Somehow I totally forgot to take Byun into consideration. Broodwar isn't a good reference. Most comebacks have been done by players who didn't actually retire but switched to SC2 and then returned to BW. Those players never stopped training their mechanics. Yeah, I think that is an important point. Two years in the army makes you lose mechanics. Did Byun go to the army and come back? Didn't hear much about what he did those years. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On September 27 2018 13:42 Solar424 wrote: Byun dropped off the face of the Earth for 2 years, came back, and won GSL and Blizzcon. Marineking also switched to LoL for 1-2 years, came back and reached the Hot6ix Cup finals. | ||
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Veluvian
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