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On September 05 2018 05:20 yubo56 wrote:
Not sure how Neeb's planning to open the game, but TY's 4-3 reverse sweep over Classic in the ONPOONG Masters tournament showed going down 0-3 into 4 straight proxies, 3 of them reactor cyclones. Something to keep in mind; I think Neeb has some decent defensive play when he's playing warily, but he definitely isn't always the most conscientious about scouting and had quite some greedy/punishable openings when he first entered the scene. He'll probably prepare for that possibility though, in which case the series could be interesting.
TY 4-1. I believe in the genius and his preparation
So did Classic win the first three off of non-proxy games? Also, I just watched Cure beat Stats off of three straight proxies. And TY won his group off the back of proxy play. It seems like the factory proxy into cyclones is very powerful.
I feel like Neeb should be aware of this proxy, so hopefully he practices a lot with Special against this build.
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On September 05 2018 06:25 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2018 05:20 yubo56 wrote:
Not sure how Neeb's planning to open the game, but TY's 4-3 reverse sweep over Classic in the ONPOONG Masters tournament showed going down 0-3 into 4 straight proxies, 3 of them reactor cyclones. Something to keep in mind; I think Neeb has some decent defensive play when he's playing warily, but he definitely isn't always the most conscientious about scouting and had quite some greedy/punishable openings when he first entered the scene. He'll probably prepare for that possibility though, in which case the series could be interesting.
TY 4-1. I believe in the genius and his preparation So did Classic win the first three off of non-proxy games? Also, I just watched Cure beat Stats off of three straight proxies. And TY won his group off the back of proxy play. It seems like the factory proxy into cyclones is very powerful. I feel like Neeb should be aware of this proxy, so hopefully he practices a lot with Special against this build.
It's funny'cause you've proved that TvP is a broken thing.
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Hard to gauge this matchup lol. Neeb has benefited from a relatively "weak" path to the RO4 (well, let's be clear making it to a GSL RO4 will NEVER be easy), but I think the race matchup and TY's current form might work out for Neeb. I COULD see Neeb taking it, but I'm going to go with my head here and predict:
 TY 4-2  Neeb
I would also like to mention the fact that people are overlooking the fact that there is a VERY high chance Maru will soon be three time consecutive GSL champion. That's crazy!
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A bold prediction in the OP, but I hope it holds true. Neeb advancing over TY in a close series would be a dream come true. However, I just have to favor TY in the matchup. Neeb is good, but PvT has historically been his worst matchup, and TY is no slouch to say the least. Prediction: TY 4-2/3 Neeb
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Ty just 4-3'd Classic with nasty proxy play in an online tournament, the name of which escapes me. Neeb looked utterly hopeless against Maru's proxy play. Thinking a 4-1 in favor of Ty.
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I hope it's not as bad as Neeb vs Maru
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TvP is in a terrible state, Terran has no chance of winning vs Protoss in a standart game and Protoss has to prepare blindly,
if they wanna survive the proxy action all terrans use at the moment, especially TY.
And after seeing TY's series against Classic in the ONPOONG Masters, i can't see Neeb taking this.
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I could see Neeb winning a PvZ, I really could.. but PvT... against TY of all terrans..
Head: TY
Heart: NEEB
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Mizen clearly hanging out with Soul too much.
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I think general consensus is right that TY is favoured and its naive to think otherwise - but there are always upsets in every sport and this one feels like there's a fair potential for that.
With that in mind I'd say odds are about TY 1.60 : 2.50 Neeb.
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Neeb TY
3.11% 4-0 0-4 11.32%
7.21% 4-1 1-4 19.02%
10.46% 4-2 2-4 19.97%
12.14% 4-3 3-4 16.77%
- Aligulac
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Mizenhauer wrote: Yet, Neeb is still the first foreigner to win a StarCraft II tournament on Korean soil Uhm... what about the GSL Super Tournament? Foreigner winning: check ✅, on Korean soil: check ✅.
EDIT: I meant this:  2018 GSL vs. the World
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This was a long read, and I enjoyed it!
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On September 05 2018 14:49 Jj_82 wrote:Show nested quote +Mizenhauer wrote: Yet, Neeb is still the first foreigner to win a StarCraft II tournament on Korean soil Uhm... what about the GSL Super Tournament? Foreigner winning: check ✅, on Korean soil: check ✅.
whaaaaaat? are you high?
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On September 05 2018 14:49 Jj_82 wrote:Show nested quote +Mizenhauer wrote: Yet, Neeb is still the first foreigner to win a StarCraft II tournament on Korean soil Uhm... what about the GSL Super Tournament? Foreigner winning: check ✅, on Korean soil: check ✅.
??? which GSL super tournament? As far as I know, no super tournament has ever had a foreigner win.
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On September 05 2018 14:56 dummy1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2018 14:49 Jj_82 wrote:Mizenhauer wrote: Yet, Neeb is still the first foreigner to win a StarCraft II tournament on Korean soil Uhm... what about the GSL Super Tournament? Foreigner winning: check ✅, on Korean soil: check ✅. whaaaaaat? are you high? Yeah, well I am so very sorry. But I meant the GSL vs the World
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On September 05 2018 15:18 Jj_82 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2018 14:56 dummy1 wrote:On September 05 2018 14:49 Jj_82 wrote:Mizenhauer wrote: Yet, Neeb is still the first foreigner to win a StarCraft II tournament on Korean soil Uhm... what about the GSL Super Tournament? Foreigner winning: check ✅, on Korean soil: check ✅. whaaaaaat? are you high? Yeah, well I am so very sorry. But I meant the GSL vs the World
Neeb won the KeSPA cup in 2016, obviously well before Serral won GSLVW
2016 KeSPA Cup
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People start overreacting too much about "foreigner stuff and things". This is not even a hype. Probably, We need to shoot a historical movie. (Immediately). Deffently, we need a historical movie, right now. Because everyone should know about. We need a holiday... Neeb's day and Serral's day. And, also it should be learned by everyone at school.
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TY 4-0 in view of TL prediction curse
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I'm so hyped!
Cheering for Neeb, but I'd be satisfied with just good games on both sides
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EPT
