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Neeb & TY advance to Code S semifinals (Season 3) - Page 5

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
August 31 2018 11:50 GMT
#81
On August 31 2018 19:28 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...

Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least

We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 31 2018 12:53 GMT
#82
On August 30 2018 03:45 Ej_ wrote:
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On August 30 2018 03:43 Woosixion wrote:
one more gsl without a zerg champion, fear not friends we'll be getting our much needed buffs soon

Zerg has just won a tournament in Korea, calm your tits.

Mamy Jaedong is sucking all zerg power in Korea right now?
+ Show Spoiler +
Possible given how he dispatched Rain in KSL (in Brood War ofc)
Cookie
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada94 Posts
August 31 2018 14:56 GMT
#83
Is gsl ro4 day 2 on Sept 2nd or 1st? Wcs site shows Sept 1st 1pm kst. I'm planning to watch it while I'm in Seoul. Thanks.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15878 Posts
August 31 2018 17:31 GMT
#84
On August 31 2018 19:28 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...

Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least

I don't see why it shouldn't count as a GSL, it's in the name.
It's certainly neither a GSL Code S nor a Starleague though which is what really counts.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
August 31 2018 18:21 GMT
#85
shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-31 20:42:11
August 31 2018 20:39 GMT
#86
On September 01 2018 03:21 argonautdice wrote:
shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.


They should swap dates also because they just swapped so Maru could go to Asian Games. If Neeb beats TY though, he should definitely skip Montreal to prepare for GSL finals to make history.
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
August 31 2018 20:51 GMT
#87
On September 01 2018 03:21 argonautdice wrote:
shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.


Artosis said on the Pylon show they are already working on scheduling around Neeb's conflict with WCS Montreal.
cjb
Profile Joined July 2015
United States99 Posts
September 01 2018 03:49 GMT
#88
But is Rogue actually known for his "genius and creative play"


Wasn't he the first person to do this?
Jasper_Ty
Profile Joined July 2017
101 Posts
September 01 2018 13:49 GMT
#89
On August 30 2018 18:15 Malongo wrote:
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On August 30 2018 16:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
On August 30 2018 14:41 Proko wrote:
People are really going hard at Rogue, but he planned the series and executed his builds. When you get bad build matchups it can make you look extremely weak and unprepared like Rogue looked at times. I think people are underselling how poorly his build choices matched up against Neeb's. Even the game where Rogue successfully went Muta showed it. Neeb was pulling out some slightly offbeat stuff that hit Rogue well most of the time (reviving DT double archon drop for example.)

yeah, armchair experts trash-talking pros. I completely agree, Rogue came in with a plan, it s clear he practiced these builds and thought they re gonna work out, and indeed they had to work in practice sessions else he wasnt gonna throw them out in RO8. It went horribly horribly wrong (game 1 and 4). If it went according to plan people would praise his genius and creative play-style

But is Rogue actually known for his "genius and creative play" or because of his solid fundamentals and strong lategame? I am not an expert but not playing to your strenghts is actually a very poor plan for any competitive athlete.


Well, he was known for strategies and builds in HotS.

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And of course, the iconic baneling drops
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 01 2018 14:17 GMT
#90
On August 31 2018 20:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2018 19:28 Fango wrote:
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...

Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least

We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.

And my response is the same as it was last time. Do they really? They give INno 3 medals when he goes into matches, not four.

GOM also wanted Mvp's to count I guess, but that was purely for G5L hype.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-01 16:53:23
September 01 2018 16:52 GMT
#91
On August 30 2018 18:15 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2018 16:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
On August 30 2018 14:41 Proko wrote:
People are really going hard at Rogue, but he planned the series and executed his builds. When you get bad build matchups it can make you look extremely weak and unprepared like Rogue looked at times. I think people are underselling how poorly his build choices matched up against Neeb's. Even the game where Rogue successfully went Muta showed it. Neeb was pulling out some slightly offbeat stuff that hit Rogue well most of the time (reviving DT double archon drop for example.)

yeah, armchair experts trash-talking pros. I completely agree, Rogue came in with a plan, it s clear he practiced these builds and thought they re gonna work out, and indeed they had to work in practice sessions else he wasnt gonna throw them out in RO8. It went horribly horribly wrong (game 1 and 4). If it went according to plan people would praise his genius and creative play-style

But is Rogue actually known for his "genius and creative play" or because of his solid fundamentals and strong lategame? I am not an expert but not playing to your strenghts is actually a very poor plan for any competitive athlete.


Rouge is known for his genius and creative play, in the past that's what defined him as a player it's only recently, like last year that he started to bring his mechanics up to the level they are today. Rouge used to be the Zerg that did all sorts of weird but smart builds that allowed him to win games. I think his loss is more attributed to his smart plays not working out vs what been brought than anything else.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 01 2018 17:12 GMT
#92
On September 01 2018 23:17 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2018 20:50 Elentos wrote:
On August 31 2018 19:28 Fango wrote:
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...

Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least

We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.

And my response is the same as it was last time. Do they really? They give INno 3 medals when he goes into matches, not four.

GOM also wanted Mvp's to count I guess, but that was purely for G5L hype.


Mvp's wasn't GSL vs the World, it was GSL World Championship and was specifically referred to as equivalent to a GSL Code S by GOM from the start of 2011. GSL vs the World was never advertised as that and never treated as that by Afreeca.

The biggest difference is, of course, that GSL WC was qualifier based (even if the qualifiers were pretty dire for its time), and GSL vs the World had players who were invited. If WC was held today, it obviously wouldn't be counted by Afreeca, but it was always intended to be a GSL at the time, unlike GSL vs the World.
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