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Reynor legit almost had Maru. He got a little panicked with his vipers and spent too much time targeting Thors with his hydras, though.
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Neeb played great versus Zergs. I love that he called Maru out for not challenging him to the mid game. If they meet again I think Neeb will do much better.
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I'm going to be honest, I didn't actually know much about Neeb until this third GSL this season. Has he been consistently this good? Or is this recent?
I guess all I'm saying is that it kind of feels like he just appeared out of nowhere, not that I'm complaining.
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On August 16 2018 09:05 Frudgey wrote:
I'm going to be honest, I didn't actually know much about Neeb until this third GSL this season. Has he been consistently this good? Or is this recent?
I guess all I'm saying is that it kind of feels like he just appeared out of nowhere, not that I'm complaining.
He was the Serral of the WCS Circuit last year. He even won a tournament on Korean soil too. He hasn't lived up to his last year performance, but he's still a good foreigner and still capable of taking games off of many of the Koreans.
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To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat.
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat.
Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no???
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat.
You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol
Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat.
Yes yes, neeb's arrogant character. The audacity of him to suggest that he would stand a chance if he survived past 6 minutes. It's not surprising - he is well-known for not having a soft-spoken personality and for giving bm interviews.
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On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me
You misunderstand me, banter is banter, I am not putting anyone down for it, I am just saying Maru's proxy 2 rax deserves to be made fun of 
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On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me
Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years.
Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed.
I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better.
On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no???
When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite.
edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post.
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Was kinda surprised to see Neeb pull through. I don't follow the foreign scene much these days, so I was lead to believe it was pretty much all Zerg, all the time. Good to see Protoss still hanging strong.
And as for Terrans...
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Well, at least you'll always have Jinro.
On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years.
I feel like the opinions of teamliquid.net's posters has changed dramatically on this issue since Sos > Jaedong.
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I want Maru to win this season but his play looked really shaky, especially versus Reynor, and his most likely next opponent will be Zerg.
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Watched until the end of the winners match, was shocked to see that Reynor lost to Neeb. I really wanted to see him go further in this tournament 
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Oof I feel bad for reynor. So close yet so far.
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On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post.
I think you're taking everything a little too seriously
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On August 16 2018 12:03 Zzoram wrote:
I want Maru to win this season but his play looked really shaky, especially versus Reynor, and his most likely next opponent will be Zerg.
Nah, he'll be fine. Korean zergs just die to 2-1-1, especially with a tank push
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I love Maru, He is just a baller. He does the same figured out 2-1-1 into tank push fucking build vs opponents he thinks he will win ez. When he does not, he just proxy 2rax and make it work no matter what to live up the meme.
Sincerely, the second game vs Raynor is one of the most skilled displays of a defense vs a quick Blord push. I think no other terran holds it
I bet Maru doesnt makes again that build in the ro8 forward. He will do it again in that asian tournament tho.
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daaaaaamn neeb doesn't want serral to get all the glory. advancing to the ro8 is nothing to sneeze at. i believe only liquid jinro was the only foreigner to ever make it to the ro4 twice, no one else has gotten that far?
very exciting times
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On August 16 2018 14:50 fishjie wrote:
daaaaaamn neeb doesn't want serral to get all the glory. advancing to the ro8 is nothing to sneeze at. i believe only liquid jinro was the only foreigner to ever make it to the ro4 twice, no one else has gotten that far?
very exciting times
Naniwa is the most successful in terms of GSL depth imo, but he and Jinro (and even IdrA) all had amazing runs
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On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post.
Worst ro8 player in 3 years what?
Neeb is far better than Scarlett has ever been.
He actually managed to dominate the WCS circuit in 2017.
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On August 16 2018 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 14:50 fishjie wrote:
daaaaaamn neeb doesn't want serral to get all the glory. advancing to the ro8 is nothing to sneeze at. i believe only liquid jinro was the only foreigner to ever make it to the ro4 twice, no one else has gotten that far?
very exciting times Naniwa is the most successful in terms of GSL depth imo, but he and Jinro (and even IdrA) all had amazing runs
Huk had a solid Ro8 run back in the day too but then he ran into Mvp and got annihilated. not that it was exclusive to Huk when it came to facing Mvp. It was like peak Mvp too. Late 2011
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Neeb calling Maru out? It is rich come from a player never even win a GSL in his life.
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post.
Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This?
"My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually."
This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"?
Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview:
"I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight."
Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he.
You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say:
On August 01 2018 10:47 Rodya wrote:
I can't help but feel this article was written by someone with a strong western bias.
Why are Neeb, Serral, and Has in all of your dream matchups? You want to watch them get crushed 4-0 that badly?
This one was nice and ironic
On August 01 2018 13:11 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote:
Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Some people love to talk about online results as if they mean anything at all. Of course they don't, and Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru as you said. Serral got a lucky seeding so he will get past Round 1, but Round 2 he will be lucky to win one map.
Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you?
On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though.
On August 04 2018 05:11 Rodya wrote:
Finally, western fanboy tears will begin to shed in 10 short hours. Hopefully maynard doesnt cast serral, Id have to mute the stream.
Hmmm
On August 04 2018 08:35 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 05:01 uummpaa wrote:On August 04 2018 04:53 MajiN1 wrote:
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Serral has a lot to prove. He didn't perform in korean tournament just like Neeb did when he won kespa cup.
He has to prove that he is a top contender to big events. It is now or never because the next and final stop will be Blizzcon. i guess a 3rd place in WESG (with a win over classic, since neeb was 3rd the year before) and a ro4 at IEM WC is nothing to ignore as well. Especially if you consider the fact that Neeb mostly had to win PvPs back in the day (i think it was one series vs. Pet or something). Still a pretty damn good achivement from him, but I rate Serrals higher tbh. Even if he loses a close series vs inno its still a good sign for his level i would say Serral squeeked by Trap 3-2. Trap is not even the best Protoss in Korea. Serral then proceeded in Katowice to get stomped hard by Classic. That's what he did to get ro4... one series win against Trap. Now lets look at WESG... he beat neeb... and lost to Maru 0-3. Okay, he beat Classic 3-1 in the third place match, sure, but he lost 0-3 to Classic when the match truly mattered for the tournament. Stop saying "Serral got top 4 at WESG!!", that makes it sound much more impressive than it is. Serral beat Neeb to get there.
Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol.
On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1.
On August 04 2018 15:52 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:49 darklycid wrote:On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Right He got the best PvP Player he's so lucky. 1) Zest is not the best PvP 2) Zest didn't give showtime even the slightest ounce of respect. He treated his match like he was leveling his smurf to GM. That's not a true victory, it's a lucky pass.
Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant!
On July 29 2018 22:13 Rodya wrote:
The only reason that you think the gap has closed is that there are so many foreigner-only tournaments that Rotterdam and co. hype up as being important (even though they are irrelevant since there are no top Koreans there). Naturally, foreigners win these events, and people think that this means that foreigners are acheiving something in SC2. It's quite amusing that this is the case, but it seems so! I wonder what people will say when Serral get's 0-3'd by Innovation/Rogue.
Whoops
On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still.
LOL
Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor?
On August 14 2018 11:12 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 01:57 yht9657 wrote:
Can't wait for Impact to crush some foreign dreams, guy's just Way too underrated. If he stops his offline choking record he may even beat Maru on a good day. Yeah Impact is Way underrated and Reynor is Way overhyped. Reynor went 2-2 versus Classic and gets beat up at foreigner events consistently. I'M Sorry guys but his expected placement in this group is fourth. I could see him being Neeb though, but that's a lot different than beating Impact.]
On August 15 2018 02:50 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 14:17 Jeremiah1 wrote:
But im not underestimating Impact at all, Just because a vet. is good doesnt mean Reynor doesnt have a chance. Infact if anything I think we will see Impatch vs Reynor twice. You are saying that Reynor is likely to win because he went 2-2 versus Classic. Reynor gets continually owned at foreigner events. He has no results.
On August 11 2018 21:30 Rodya wrote:
Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail, Zest makes GSL finals.
The foreigner bias of some of you is so strong that it makes me laugh in real life.
Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do?
At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way.
At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8.
Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral?
It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean.
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Very nice post, Torrefy.
Dude is unbearable.
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat.
Well Neeb said himself that his run was unimpressive so far and somewhat lucky.
Edit: The answer above did my job way better.
To comment on the matches, I'm pretty sure Reynor was tilted as fuck after the series against Maru. In his series against Neeb he made lots of mistakes and questionable decisions.
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Impressive run by Neeb and perfectly put by torrefy. WP to both!
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On August 16 2018 16:53 Torrefy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post. Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This? https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime"My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually." This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"? Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview: https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu"I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight." Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he. You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say: Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 10:47 Rodya wrote:
I can't help but feel this article was written by someone with a strong western bias.
Why are Neeb, Serral, and Has in all of your dream matchups? You want to watch them get crushed 4-0 that badly? This one was nice and ironic Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 13:11 Rodya wrote:On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote:
Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Some people love to talk about online results as if they mean anything at all. Of course they don't, and Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru as you said. Serral got a lucky seeding so he will get past Round 1, but Round 2 he will be lucky to win one map. Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you? Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 05:11 Rodya wrote:
Finally, western fanboy tears will begin to shed in 10 short hours. Hopefully maynard doesnt cast serral, Id have to mute the stream. Hmmm Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 08:35 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 05:01 uummpaa wrote:On August 04 2018 04:53 MajiN1 wrote:
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Serral has a lot to prove. He didn't perform in korean tournament just like Neeb did when he won kespa cup.
He has to prove that he is a top contender to big events. It is now or never because the next and final stop will be Blizzcon. i guess a 3rd place in WESG (with a win over classic, since neeb was 3rd the year before) and a ro4 at IEM WC is nothing to ignore as well. Especially if you consider the fact that Neeb mostly had to win PvPs back in the day (i think it was one series vs. Pet or something). Still a pretty damn good achivement from him, but I rate Serrals higher tbh. Even if he loses a close series vs inno its still a good sign for his level i would say Serral squeeked by Trap 3-2. Trap is not even the best Protoss in Korea. Serral then proceeded in Katowice to get stomped hard by Classic. That's what he did to get ro4... one series win against Trap. Now lets look at WESG... he beat neeb... and lost to Maru 0-3. Okay, he beat Classic 3-1 in the third place match, sure, but he lost 0-3 to Classic when the match truly mattered for the tournament. Stop saying "Serral got top 4 at WESG!!", that makes it sound much more impressive than it is. Serral beat Neeb to get there. Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:52 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 15:49 darklycid wrote:On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Right He got the best PvP Player he's so lucky. 1) Zest is not the best PvP 2) Zest didn't give showtime even the slightest ounce of respect. He treated his match like he was leveling his smurf to GM. That's not a true victory, it's a lucky pass. Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant! Show nested quote +On July 29 2018 22:13 Rodya wrote:
The only reason that you think the gap has closed is that there are so many foreigner-only tournaments that Rotterdam and co. hype up as being important (even though they are irrelevant since there are no top Koreans there). Naturally, foreigners win these events, and people think that this means that foreigners are acheiving something in SC2. It's quite amusing that this is the case, but it seems so! I wonder what people will say when Serral get's 0-3'd by Innovation/Rogue. Whoops Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. LOL Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor? Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 11:12 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 01:57 yht9657 wrote:
Can't wait for Impact to crush some foreign dreams, guy's just Way too underrated. If he stops his offline choking record he may even beat Maru on a good day. Yeah Impact is Way underrated and Reynor is Way overhyped. Reynor went 2-2 versus Classic and gets beat up at foreigner events consistently. I'M Sorry guys but his expected placement in this group is fourth. I could see him being Neeb though, but that's a lot different than beating Impact.] Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 02:50 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 14:17 Jeremiah1 wrote:
But im not underestimating Impact at all, Just because a vet. is good doesnt mean Reynor doesnt have a chance. Infact if anything I think we will see Impatch vs Reynor twice. You are saying that Reynor is likely to win because he went 2-2 versus Classic. Reynor gets continually owned at foreigner events. He has no results. Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 21:30 Rodya wrote:
Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail, Zest makes GSL finals.
The foreigner bias of some of you is so strong that it makes me laugh in real life. Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do? At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way. At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8. Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral? It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean.
My thoughts exactly, thank you!
I went back to Neeb's winner's interview just to make sure I hadn't missed anything. Then I went to check his twitter account, even though he hardly ever posts anything. No banter what so ever. Just the usual humble, I'm-not-really-that-good Neeb we all know and love.
As to whether Rodya is a Korean elitist or a troll -- a troll, definitely, and not to be taken seriously. I think the best way to handle him is to link Torrefy's post whenever he is trolling, so that people understand what they're dealing with.
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Reynor should have won against Maru, right?
It's hard, but what an improvement since last encounter when maru outcalssed him 3/0.
Is foreigner level at one of his highest peek of level, or Kor lower than it used to be ?
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So, does it mean we should open the gate and let the tigers out?
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On August 16 2018 17:29 Ej_ wrote:
Very nice post, Torrefy.
Dude is unbearable.
Seconded Well researched too Torrefy!
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Torrefy you are now on my special list of people i like without knowing them IRL.
I was in the GSL studio 2-3 weeks ago and watching Neeb and Special play, and the respect for foreigners even from Koreans are real.
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Maru's proxies feel way too safe for me. Its just his standard opening at this point, sick stuff.
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On August 16 2018 16:53 Torrefy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post. Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This? https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime"My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually." This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"? Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview: https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu"I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight." Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he. You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say: Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 10:47 Rodya wrote:
I can't help but feel this article was written by someone with a strong western bias.
Why are Neeb, Serral, and Has in all of your dream matchups? You want to watch them get crushed 4-0 that badly? This one was nice and ironic Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 13:11 Rodya wrote:On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote:
Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Some people love to talk about online results as if they mean anything at all. Of course they don't, and Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru as you said. Serral got a lucky seeding so he will get past Round 1, but Round 2 he will be lucky to win one map. Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you? Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 05:11 Rodya wrote:
Finally, western fanboy tears will begin to shed in 10 short hours. Hopefully maynard doesnt cast serral, Id have to mute the stream. Hmmm Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 08:35 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 05:01 uummpaa wrote:On August 04 2018 04:53 MajiN1 wrote:
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Serral has a lot to prove. He didn't perform in korean tournament just like Neeb did when he won kespa cup.
He has to prove that he is a top contender to big events. It is now or never because the next and final stop will be Blizzcon. i guess a 3rd place in WESG (with a win over classic, since neeb was 3rd the year before) and a ro4 at IEM WC is nothing to ignore as well. Especially if you consider the fact that Neeb mostly had to win PvPs back in the day (i think it was one series vs. Pet or something). Still a pretty damn good achivement from him, but I rate Serrals higher tbh. Even if he loses a close series vs inno its still a good sign for his level i would say Serral squeeked by Trap 3-2. Trap is not even the best Protoss in Korea. Serral then proceeded in Katowice to get stomped hard by Classic. That's what he did to get ro4... one series win against Trap. Now lets look at WESG... he beat neeb... and lost to Maru 0-3. Okay, he beat Classic 3-1 in the third place match, sure, but he lost 0-3 to Classic when the match truly mattered for the tournament. Stop saying "Serral got top 4 at WESG!!", that makes it sound much more impressive than it is. Serral beat Neeb to get there. Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:52 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 15:49 darklycid wrote:On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Right He got the best PvP Player he's so lucky. 1) Zest is not the best PvP 2) Zest didn't give showtime even the slightest ounce of respect. He treated his match like he was leveling his smurf to GM. That's not a true victory, it's a lucky pass. Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant! Show nested quote +On July 29 2018 22:13 Rodya wrote:
The only reason that you think the gap has closed is that there are so many foreigner-only tournaments that Rotterdam and co. hype up as being important (even though they are irrelevant since there are no top Koreans there). Naturally, foreigners win these events, and people think that this means that foreigners are acheiving something in SC2. It's quite amusing that this is the case, but it seems so! I wonder what people will say when Serral get's 0-3'd by Innovation/Rogue. Whoops Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. LOL Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor? Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 11:12 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 01:57 yht9657 wrote:
Can't wait for Impact to crush some foreign dreams, guy's just Way too underrated. If he stops his offline choking record he may even beat Maru on a good day. Yeah Impact is Way underrated and Reynor is Way overhyped. Reynor went 2-2 versus Classic and gets beat up at foreigner events consistently. I'M Sorry guys but his expected placement in this group is fourth. I could see him being Neeb though, but that's a lot different than beating Impact.] Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 02:50 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 14:17 Jeremiah1 wrote:
But im not underestimating Impact at all, Just because a vet. is good doesnt mean Reynor doesnt have a chance. Infact if anything I think we will see Impatch vs Reynor twice. You are saying that Reynor is likely to win because he went 2-2 versus Classic. Reynor gets continually owned at foreigner events. He has no results. Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 21:30 Rodya wrote:
Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail, Zest makes GSL finals.
The foreigner bias of some of you is so strong that it makes me laugh in real life. Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do? At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way. At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8. Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral? It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean.
wow that was one hell of a takedown
it's hard to moderate people who take very extreme, aggressive stances, but manage to stick to the bare minimum rules of civility ;o
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On August 16 2018 16:53 Torrefy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post. Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This? https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime"My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually." This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"? Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview: https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu"I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight." Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he. You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say: Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 10:47 Rodya wrote:
I can't help but feel this article was written by someone with a strong western bias.
Why are Neeb, Serral, and Has in all of your dream matchups? You want to watch them get crushed 4-0 that badly? This one was nice and ironic Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 13:11 Rodya wrote:On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote:
Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Some people love to talk about online results as if they mean anything at all. Of course they don't, and Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru as you said. Serral got a lucky seeding so he will get past Round 1, but Round 2 he will be lucky to win one map. Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you? Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 05:11 Rodya wrote:
Finally, western fanboy tears will begin to shed in 10 short hours. Hopefully maynard doesnt cast serral, Id have to mute the stream. Hmmm Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 08:35 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 05:01 uummpaa wrote:On August 04 2018 04:53 MajiN1 wrote:
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Serral has a lot to prove. He didn't perform in korean tournament just like Neeb did when he won kespa cup.
He has to prove that he is a top contender to big events. It is now or never because the next and final stop will be Blizzcon. i guess a 3rd place in WESG (with a win over classic, since neeb was 3rd the year before) and a ro4 at IEM WC is nothing to ignore as well. Especially if you consider the fact that Neeb mostly had to win PvPs back in the day (i think it was one series vs. Pet or something). Still a pretty damn good achivement from him, but I rate Serrals higher tbh. Even if he loses a close series vs inno its still a good sign for his level i would say Serral squeeked by Trap 3-2. Trap is not even the best Protoss in Korea. Serral then proceeded in Katowice to get stomped hard by Classic. That's what he did to get ro4... one series win against Trap. Now lets look at WESG... he beat neeb... and lost to Maru 0-3. Okay, he beat Classic 3-1 in the third place match, sure, but he lost 0-3 to Classic when the match truly mattered for the tournament. Stop saying "Serral got top 4 at WESG!!", that makes it sound much more impressive than it is. Serral beat Neeb to get there. Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:52 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 15:49 darklycid wrote:On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Right He got the best PvP Player he's so lucky. 1) Zest is not the best PvP 2) Zest didn't give showtime even the slightest ounce of respect. He treated his match like he was leveling his smurf to GM. That's not a true victory, it's a lucky pass. Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant! Show nested quote +On July 29 2018 22:13 Rodya wrote:
The only reason that you think the gap has closed is that there are so many foreigner-only tournaments that Rotterdam and co. hype up as being important (even though they are irrelevant since there are no top Koreans there). Naturally, foreigners win these events, and people think that this means that foreigners are acheiving something in SC2. It's quite amusing that this is the case, but it seems so! I wonder what people will say when Serral get's 0-3'd by Innovation/Rogue. Whoops Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. LOL Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor? Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 11:12 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 01:57 yht9657 wrote:
Can't wait for Impact to crush some foreign dreams, guy's just Way too underrated. If he stops his offline choking record he may even beat Maru on a good day. Yeah Impact is Way underrated and Reynor is Way overhyped. Reynor went 2-2 versus Classic and gets beat up at foreigner events consistently. I'M Sorry guys but his expected placement in this group is fourth. I could see him being Neeb though, but that's a lot different than beating Impact.] Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 02:50 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 14:17 Jeremiah1 wrote:
But im not underestimating Impact at all, Just because a vet. is good doesnt mean Reynor doesnt have a chance. Infact if anything I think we will see Impatch vs Reynor twice. You are saying that Reynor is likely to win because he went 2-2 versus Classic. Reynor gets continually owned at foreigner events. He has no results. Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 21:30 Rodya wrote:
Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail, Zest makes GSL finals.
The foreigner bias of some of you is so strong that it makes me laugh in real life. Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do? At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way. At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8. Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral? It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean.
God thank you for this, I spent 10 minutes watching the interview again and checking Neeb's twitter to find this ''taunt''. I feel like if Neeb isn't on his knees apologizing for wasting Maru's time for the entire interview this guy would find him disrespectful lol.
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Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately.
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On August 16 2018 16:53 Torrefy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post. Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This? https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime"My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually." This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"? Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview: https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu"I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight." Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he. You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say: Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 10:47 Rodya wrote:
I can't help but feel this article was written by someone with a strong western bias.
Why are Neeb, Serral, and Has in all of your dream matchups? You want to watch them get crushed 4-0 that badly? This one was nice and ironic Show nested quote +On August 01 2018 13:11 Rodya wrote:On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote:
Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Some people love to talk about online results as if they mean anything at all. Of course they don't, and Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru as you said. Serral got a lucky seeding so he will get past Round 1, but Round 2 he will be lucky to win one map. Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you? Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 05:11 Rodya wrote:
Finally, western fanboy tears will begin to shed in 10 short hours. Hopefully maynard doesnt cast serral, Id have to mute the stream. Hmmm Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 08:35 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 05:01 uummpaa wrote:On August 04 2018 04:53 MajiN1 wrote:
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Serral has a lot to prove. He didn't perform in korean tournament just like Neeb did when he won kespa cup.
He has to prove that he is a top contender to big events. It is now or never because the next and final stop will be Blizzcon. i guess a 3rd place in WESG (with a win over classic, since neeb was 3rd the year before) and a ro4 at IEM WC is nothing to ignore as well. Especially if you consider the fact that Neeb mostly had to win PvPs back in the day (i think it was one series vs. Pet or something). Still a pretty damn good achivement from him, but I rate Serrals higher tbh. Even if he loses a close series vs inno its still a good sign for his level i would say Serral squeeked by Trap 3-2. Trap is not even the best Protoss in Korea. Serral then proceeded in Katowice to get stomped hard by Classic. That's what he did to get ro4... one series win against Trap. Now lets look at WESG... he beat neeb... and lost to Maru 0-3. Okay, he beat Classic 3-1 in the third place match, sure, but he lost 0-3 to Classic when the match truly mattered for the tournament. Stop saying "Serral got top 4 at WESG!!", that makes it sound much more impressive than it is. Serral beat Neeb to get there. Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 15:52 Rodya wrote:On August 04 2018 15:49 darklycid wrote:On August 04 2018 15:48 Rodya wrote:
Rotti trying his best to make Showtime seem like a "very strong progamer" :DDD
No... Showtime isn't strong, he got lucky Round 1. Right He got the best PvP Player he's so lucky. 1) Zest is not the best PvP 2) Zest didn't give showtime even the slightest ounce of respect. He treated his match like he was leveling his smurf to GM. That's not a true victory, it's a lucky pass. Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant! Show nested quote +On July 29 2018 22:13 Rodya wrote:
The only reason that you think the gap has closed is that there are so many foreigner-only tournaments that Rotterdam and co. hype up as being important (even though they are irrelevant since there are no top Koreans there). Naturally, foreigners win these events, and people think that this means that foreigners are acheiving something in SC2. It's quite amusing that this is the case, but it seems so! I wonder what people will say when Serral get's 0-3'd by Innovation/Rogue. Whoops Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. LOL Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor? Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 11:12 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 01:57 yht9657 wrote:
Can't wait for Impact to crush some foreign dreams, guy's just Way too underrated. If he stops his offline choking record he may even beat Maru on a good day. Yeah Impact is Way underrated and Reynor is Way overhyped. Reynor went 2-2 versus Classic and gets beat up at foreigner events consistently. I'M Sorry guys but his expected placement in this group is fourth. I could see him being Neeb though, but that's a lot different than beating Impact.] Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 02:50 Rodya wrote:On August 14 2018 14:17 Jeremiah1 wrote:
But im not underestimating Impact at all, Just because a vet. is good doesnt mean Reynor doesnt have a chance. Infact if anything I think we will see Impatch vs Reynor twice. You are saying that Reynor is likely to win because he went 2-2 versus Classic. Reynor gets continually owned at foreigner events. He has no results. Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 21:30 Rodya wrote:
Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail, Zest makes GSL finals.
The foreigner bias of some of you is so strong that it makes me laugh in real life. Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do? At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way. At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8. Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral? It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean.
Savage! Well done!
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On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately.
I wouldn't say that Neeb looked bad against Maru, exactly, as there wasn't much of him to see, unfortunately... Neeb looks bad against any kind of "dedicated aggression", as NoRegret puts it, and this, I feel, is what has been keeping him back throughout 2018.
I think back to Blizzcon 2017, when Neeb took his first series against Rouge, beating him to a pulp on the super late game. soO is watching, of course, and the very next game he goes for a 2-base build and kills Neeb twice without much trouble. Then it's Rouge's turn for the rematch, so of course he follows soO's example, and Neeb's out. I feel that ever since, Koreans view Neeb as someone you should always try to break on the early game and get an easy win. That's pretty much how Dark manhandled him lately. Maybe if Reynor would have adopted that frame of mind, he'd come out second in the group...
Honestly, I think that Reynor has a better chance in the RO8 than Neeb, because he hasn't been figured out by the Koreans to the extent that Neeb had. But my heart, ever since that KeSPA Cup in 2016, yearns for Neeb to go on another miracle run. The problem is, no matter how good he gets in the late game, he's still gonna get stomped on if he doesn't do something to counter the cheese that he needs to assume is coming his way.
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On August 16 2018 15:46 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 16 2018 14:50 fishjie wrote:
daaaaaamn neeb doesn't want serral to get all the glory. advancing to the ro8 is nothing to sneeze at. i believe only liquid jinro was the only foreigner to ever make it to the ro4 twice, no one else has gotten that far?
very exciting times Naniwa is the most successful in terms of GSL depth imo, but he and Jinro (and even IdrA) all had amazing runs Huk had a solid Ro8 run back in the day too but then he ran into Mvp and got annihilated. not that it was exclusive to Huk when it came to facing Mvp. It was like peak Mvp too. Late 2011
Very true! I somehow forgot about HuK as well.
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On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately.
Because in reddit he probably gets downvoted and no one sees his comment. But here you have to see it unless you remember his username and deliberately skip it.
TL paid extension idea: We need a tool to tag people as trolls etc 
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On August 16 2018 12:03 Zzoram wrote:
I want Maru to win this season but his play looked really shaky, especially versus Reynor, and his most likely next opponent will be Zerg.
We'll see. But someone already said righfully that Maru tends to be kind of shaky in earlier rounds but then kills it in the playoffs. He also didn't look invincible vs Forte, shaky vs Leenock, last season he weirdly struggled vs Patience and in season 1 he lost a match to Keen.
I think he is sometimes is somewhat similar to Taeja who also often performed just well enough to beat his opponents.
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Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them??
Reynor might be better in the future, but he only went 2-2 vs classic before his ro16 match and in foreigner events doesn't put up the performances that a top player would against such competition.
Anyway - if you think that Neeb's statement isn't "Maru just proxied me, I'm really good in this matchup I'd probably beat him in a REAL series", then I don't know what else to say to you :p
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On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately.
This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion.
Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!")
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On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them??
Because they are an eyesore.
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I feel bad for Reynor, he had Maru, then got pushed back and lost to the silly 2 rax.
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On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion. Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!")
On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 00:25 VengefulTree wrote:
How can anyone even consider putting Stats over Serral for any reason other than anti-foreigner bias Easy. Serral has had one tournament that he performed well in that had Koreans in it. Stats has had many of recent memory. He made a GSL finals this year after all and won a supertournament. Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still.
Yeah, sure.
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Glad for neeb.
And I guess I'll join in to feed the troll.
On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote:
Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit.
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament.
Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion. Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!")
So then you go from one kinda extreme to another extreme. Like who are the 9-13... I mean 7-11 better players at the moment (and why)?
And I guess you regard Lambo quite highly if Serral beating him 3-0 makes Serral jump up a couple of spots.
On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still.
On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them??
Or they've just read threads, and your posts always happen stick out because of how mind-boggling they are.
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On August 16 2018 08:31 ThunderJunk wrote:
Reynor legit almost had Maru. He got a little panicked with his vipers and spent too much time targeting Thors with his hydras, though.
SPOT ON.
I was thinking the whole time, "If he just gets the tanks, ez mode afterwards."
I think if he just control well during that fight, the game was straigh over and Reynor would have 2-0'd him.
But then again, Neeb wouldn't have been able to beat Maru in my opinion in the advancing match, and I'm a huge Neeb fan, so I was very happy Maru won.
I think if Neeb goes against a zerg in RO8, possibly Dark OR Rogue (I think it's super possible), then Neeb takes ANOTHER KOREAN TOURNAMENT
NERD CHILLS ROTTIIII
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That moment Reynor stopped all his lings to kill those two marines that let Maru get those ebays up on time.....really hope he learned from that
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On August 17 2018 00:20 Jimmon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 08:31 ThunderJunk wrote:
Reynor legit almost had Maru. He got a little panicked with his vipers and spent too much time targeting Thors with his hydras, though. SPOT ON. I was thinking the whole time, "If he just gets the tanks, ez mode afterwards." I think if he just control well during that fight, the game was straigh over and Reynor would have 2-0'd him. But then again, Neeb wouldn't have been able to beat Maru in my opinion in the advancing match, and I'm a huge Neeb fan, so I was very happy Maru won. I think if Neeb goes against a zerg in RO8, possibly Dark OR Rogue (I think it's super possible), then Neeb takes ANOTHER KOREAN TOURNAMENT NERD CHILLS ROTTIIII
Neeb has a good PvZ but Dark legit shat on him multiple times, sometimes with agressive builds. Rogue should be an easier opponent than Dark imo. Especially since Dark must be super pissed off from his loss against Serral, you get revenge where you can and foreign blood is still foreign blood :D
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Man, Tastosis lost it there at the end of that cast. I could hardly term what they were saying they were laughing so hard. This isn't a complaint--it was hilarious! I just wanted to comment on it.
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On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them??
I remember because I replied to one of your posts in the GSL vs the World preview thread, where you said Serral would get 4-0'd and I said there was noone in the world who was a favorite to beat Serral 4-0, even Maru. (Not to just beat him, but specifically to beat him 4-0)
Then you and several other posters jumped in to tell me that "Maru would not only 4-0 Serral, he would go out of his way to do it in the most humiliating fashion possible", "Serral vs. Maru would be a complete curb stomping by Maru", and this one is from you "Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru"
And you may not know this but you can look up users posts on this site. Don't worry, I'm not keeping a file.
On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Reynor might be better in the future, but he only went 2-2 vs classic before his ro16 match and in foreigner events doesn't put up the performances that a top player would against such competition.
Forgetting whether or not this is even true, which is subjective and debatable, this isn't even what you said. You said, not just once but three separate times, that "Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail." This is literally demonstrably false. Unless you consider going 10-0 in matches and 23-2 in maps against all foreigners not named Serral as getting trashed against foreigners without fail. You literally made this fact up and posted it three separate times for the express purpose of making Reynor look bad. Either that or you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and you were just spewing nonsense with no care at all whether it was even close to true. Neither one of these should be acceptable.
On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Anyway - if you think that Neeb's statement isn't "Maru just proxied me, I'm really good in this matchup I'd probably beat him in a REAL series", then I don't know what else to say to you :p
If YOU really think that this
https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime
especially immediately proceeded by this
https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu
is Neeb saying "I'd probably beat him a REAL series" then you might need to consider that you're just looking for reasons to feel insulted.
In fact you were so personally insulted by Neebs outrageous "taunting" of Maru that you had to go after HIM personally! Calling him "awkward" and "an angsty child" (I mean really, can't you just FEEL the angst in those clips?"
On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:
Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years.
Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed.
I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better.
I especially like how you made sure to slip in there that a KOREAN doesn't disrespect his opponents, not like that baddy Neeb. Nice
On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character..
Yours too my friend
On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:
This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10"
You did
On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote:
Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still.
On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:
Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!")
The goal is to get you to stop posting biased nonsense that you literally haven't even bothered to fact check. But yes, failing that then at least now everyone will know to ignore you.
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Good job Torrefy, totally agree with all of your points and arguements (especially because you HAD arguments unless some others )
I mean, it's fine to be a fanboy, obviously big part of this forum is about that
But being so biased to ignore evrything and just throwing around alternative facts ... that's rediculous over time.
BTT: Was a bit surprised, too. As well Reynor doing that good against Maru (it really was close for a game most of the people would have assumed a safe 2-0 for Maru) as Neeb beeting Reynor. But in the end it was of course just cleverness ... Neeb prepared for pretty much one match-up, while Reynor seemed to have prepared for all three of them.
Guess it's a bit about Experience ... of course Reynor lacks a bit regarding his age. But i'm sure we can expect a lot of him in the coming years, maybe he even can become a Serral 2.0 ...
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Good read, Torrefy!
I think if Neeb genuinely did taunt Maru (he didn't really), it'd be fun times anyway. Banter is good, and i highly doubt Neeb disrespects any of the Korean pros, especially Maru.
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On August 17 2018 01:23 Torrefy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them??
I remember because I replied to one of your posts in the GSL vs the World preview thread, where you said Serral would get 4-0'd and I said there was noone in the world who was a favorite to beat Serral 4-0, even Maru. (Not to just beat him, but specifically to beat him 4-0) Then you and several other posters jumped in to tell me that "Maru would not only 4-0 Serral, he would go out of his way to do it in the most humiliating fashion possible", "Serral vs. Maru would be a complete curb stomping by Maru", and this one is from you "Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru" And you may not know this but you can look up users posts on this site. Don't worry, I'm not keeping a file. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Reynor might be better in the future, but he only went 2-2 vs classic before his ro16 match and in foreigner events doesn't put up the performances that a top player would against such competition. Forgetting whether or not this is even true, which is subjective and debatable, this isn't even what you said. You said, not just once but three separate times, that "Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail." This is literally demonstrably false. Unless you consider going 10-0 in matches and 23-2 in maps against all foreigners not named Serral as getting trashed against foreigners without fail. You literally made this fact up and posted it three separate times for the express purpose of making Reynor look bad. Either that or you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and you were just spewing nonsense with no care at all whether it was even close to true. Neither one of these should be acceptable. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote:
Anyway - if you think that Neeb's statement isn't "Maru just proxied me, I'm really good in this matchup I'd probably beat him in a REAL series", then I don't know what else to say to you :p If YOU really think that this https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTimeespecially immediately proceeded by this https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHoguis Neeb saying "I'd probably beat him a REAL series" then you might need to consider that you're just looking for reasons to feel insulted. In fact you were so personally insulted by Neebs outrageous "taunting" of Maru that you had to go after HIM personally! Calling him "awkward" and "an angsty child" (I mean really, can't you just FEEL the angst in those clips?" Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:
Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years.
Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed.
I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better.
I especially like how you made sure to slip in there that a KOREAN doesn't disrespect his opponents, not like that baddy Neeb. Nice Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.. Yours too my friend Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:
This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10" You did Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote:
Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!") The goal is to get you to stop posting biased nonsense that you literally haven't even bothered to fact check. But yes, failing that then at least now everyone will know to ignore you.
This and your first takedown are now Posts of the Year. And also ranked #1 in Top 10 moments before disaster.
Seriously, can someone nominate this man to the next TLCMAT? He has my vote. Eloquent, followed all guidelines, and brutally savage.
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Happy for Neeb that he advanced, especially since in his interview he seemed pretty content with just making ro32. In the year of Serral I feel like Neeb is quietly still having a very good year- winning a decent chunk of change at a tournament in China with a few quality players and now GSL ro8. Oddly enough his PvP seems like his worst matchup now.
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So, hmm, where do we cast our vote to make Torrefy a mod?
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United States97276 Posts
lol Torrefy fucking rekt him
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Apologies that this continues the completely off topic discussion, but I need to also say RIP Rodya, sorry about your tattered credibility, and also sorry you got burned so hard you're now dead.
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Man it is crazy to think about how close Reynor came to beating Maru 2:0 and advancing in first place, but in the end he still got knocked out. Let's hope Neeb comes as prepared as he said he would into the ro8.
Maru winning this season would kinda suprise me after seeing his play in this group. But in longer series he only gets stronger I guess.
And I tried to report Torrefy, but under reasons there was no option for murder :/.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Can you guys stop quoting him? (or put the quote in the spoiler) It gets really hard to read anything then, thanks 
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And this is what I call "bracket luck". In my opinion Reynor (who really surprised me because I'm a detractor of his overhype and a salty fanboy who hates him because he always roflstomps my boi SpeCial) was a much better player than Neeb. You can see how Maru totally underestimated him and that match almost slip from his hands. Neeb was surgically shattered by Maru. In a total contrast to this Reynor seemed like an actual almost on par opponent.
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If Neeb makes it to the Ro4, it's gonna conflict with WCS Montreal.
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thank you torr. Keeping fake news out of sc2!
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On August 17 2018 07:17 argonautdice wrote:
If Neeb makes it to the Ro4, it's gonna conflict with WCS Montreal.
Afreeca will probably rearrange it to just after Montreal if that happens.
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On August 16 2018 12:03 Zzoram wrote:
I want Maru to win this season but his play looked really shaky, especially versus Reynor, and his most likely next opponent will be Zerg.
I think he'll be just fine
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Torrefy's first post belongs to r/murderedbywords
Pretty fun group to watch, bummed by Reynor's lost for sure. He was so close, feels like he was betrayed by tilting/nerves/inexperience. I don't feel great for Neeb's chances in the next round, but then again, we all know what he's capable of, and getting to play in the GSL playoff must be one hell of a motivator.
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... can't tell which one was more onesided: Maru vs Neeb or Torrefy vs Rodya 
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On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
I haven't followed Starcraft 2 the past 2-3 years so much.
Would you please tell me who was greatest player alive before maru became it this year?
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On August 17 2018 09:33 LSN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. I haven't followed Starcraft 2 the past 2-3 years so much. Would you please tell me who was greatest player alive before maru became it this year?
Taeja.
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On August 17 2018 10:25 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2018 09:33 LSN wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. I haven't followed Starcraft 2 the past 2-3 years so much. Would you please tell me who was greatest player alive before maru became it this year? Taeja.
He still is.
Maru hype train is overblown
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On August 17 2018 15:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Maru hype train is overblown
Heretic. I'll burn the heart out of you.
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On August 17 2018 07:03 KaiserCommander wrote:
And this is what I call "bracket luck". In my opinion Reynor ...was a much better player than Neeb.
I am not sure where you get that from. I saw Game 2 and Neeb outplayed Reynor in every stage of the game. Neeb's unit composition was more complicated and predicted what Reynor was doing.
I ain't bashing Reynor bc I am a Zerg player myself. That game just makes it look like Reynor is an immature player. The talent is there. Just give him some time.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 17 2018 07:03 KaiserCommander wrote:
And this is what I call "bracket luck". ...
Well Neeb had bracket luck, but in the end he beat him, so there's where the bracket luck ends
On August 17 2018 07:17 argonautdice wrote:
If Neeb makes it to the Ro4, it's gonna conflict with WCS Montreal.
Considering Koreans and their PvZ, it's possible, but on paper he's big underdog, mostly because it's bo5 so 3 random cheeses won't work.
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On August 16 2018 12:20 Haikus wrote:
Oof I feel bad for reynor. So close yet so far.
Indeed, I am really sad for him, he almost finished first of his group and finally did not make it
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On August 16 2018 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 14:50 fishjie wrote:
daaaaaamn neeb doesn't want serral to get all the glory. advancing to the ro8 is nothing to sneeze at. i believe only liquid jinro was the only foreigner to ever make it to the ro4 twice, no one else has gotten that far?
very exciting times Naniwa is the most successful in terms of GSL depth imo, but he and Jinro (and even IdrA) all had amazing runs
naniwa and stephano were both beasts in a time of no region lock, competing in stacked tournaments and winning/dominating. jinro though was a pioneer and made two back to back semifinals, which etched his name among the legends. idra was meh, i remember him for rage quitting to huk hallucinated void rays and rage quitting after mma destroyed his own CC LOL!
serral and neeb both look very legit though. remove the region lock and give them a chance to prove themselves like naniwa and stephano did
also lol at the savagery in this thread
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For all you guys who are feeling bad for Reynor, I just want to remind you that the guy has just turned 16 and has a supernova-bright future ahead of him. Look at Serral, our foreigner God, and Neeb who came before him -- they both played in WCS for some years before they started hitting those championship belts. Remeber that long, long period of time where Serral was breaking the ladder to pieces but wasn't winning anything? It takes time and experience on the biggest stages to figure out how to convert talent and ability to actual winnings.
And yeah, GSL is notoriously unforgiving. Just off the top of my head, I remember InNoVation, Rouge and Classic were all eliminated from the RO32 at times where they seemed favorite to win the whole thing. I think it says a lot about Maru's experience on the GSL stage that he managed to advance after nearly being taken down by Reynor. And he did it in a similar fashion against Keen, when was it, the season before last? Just kept his cool and cheesed his way out of a tough situation and into the RO16.
So, basically what I'm saying is that I expect Reynor to continue getting eliminated in the most frustrating ways for at least a while more. But if he keeps this up, in another year or two he'll be even stronger than current-day Serral. And he'll achieve these heights at an even younger age than Serral and Neeb did. God only knows how much better Serral would be in another two years, but I have a feeling Reynor is following a trajectory that ends at a ten-feet neon sign that reads "Bonjwa."
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On August 17 2018 10:25 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2018 09:33 LSN wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character. I haven't followed Starcraft 2 the past 2-3 years so much. Would you please tell me who was greatest player alive before maru became it this year? Taeja.
Love you.
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On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:23 StasisField wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. You're mad that Neeb decided to show some personality and have banter by calling out Maru for only playing early game-centric builds vs him? Are you for real lol Why would we try and put down a player for doing what players in every other competition do? That just makes no sense to me Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 10:02 AxiomBlurr wrote:On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote:
To get to ro8, Neeb beat: Losira, aliVe, Impact, Reynor
To get to ro8 season 1, Scarlett beat: Innovation, Rogue, Billowy, Zest
Neeb just got very very lucky with his road to ro8. He will be very promptly dealt with by whoever his opponent is. The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.
Not to mention Maru rocked him in both games without breaking a sweat. Time and tides. I had Maru and Impact getting through this bracket, I was wrong, I take it you were too? Neeb's banter is banter, but the constant proxy 2 rax openings by Maru deserve to be made fun of...no??? When you lose to someone in competition - you don't make fun of them. You should accept the loss and be respectful to the one who defeated you. That's basic tournament ettiquitte, especially when the one who defeated you is considered to be the best and tournament favorite. edit: if a mod could delete my empty post below, that'd be appreciated, I made two consecutive posts when I should have just made one stacked post.
I just re-watched the interview.... maybe you should go back on your meds dude. He soft spokenly said that Maru did not let him get to the mid-game. He didn't make fun of him at all.
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I was pleased and slightly surprised that I did not see “User was warned for this post” after Torrefy’s brutal takedown.
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On August 18 2018 05:33 nadavu wrote:
I remember InNoVation, Rouge and Classic were all eliminated from the RO32 at times where they seemed favorite to win the whole thing.
INnoVation has never been eliminated in the ro32
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Damn, Reynor almost got it. So close!
It could have been the upset of the month. I hope Reynor does not get discouraged and instead tears through the bracket the next time. Go go!
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