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Code S Ro32 concludes, Group Nominations on May 16 - Page 2

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 04:36:23
May 15 2018 04:21 GMT
#21
On May 15 2018 13:06 argonautdice wrote:
btw, restricting to the offline and vs Korean only parameters, Innovation is best player of LotV with 64.6% win rate in games, and a whopping 70.5% win rate in Bo3+'s. Stats, however, is the "clutchest" player since his game win rate is only 57.7% while his Bo3+ series win rate is 67.4% (a 9.7% difference)!


Artosis also mentioned during the last cast that Inno has the highest winrate out of all the players in GSL. All players who have ever played in GSL, that is, including Mvp and so forth.

Apparently he is tied with soO for most games played in GSL as well:

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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 15 2018 06:20 GMT
#22
On May 15 2018 13:19 negativedge wrote:
this is pretty much the 16 best players in the world if you were drawing them up, isn't it? maybe you'd want to shoehorn serral or neeb in there.

Serral is arguably a top 10 player. Neeb probably top 12. I would say Elazer can fight with Patience/Zest for another top 16 spot.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 15 2018 06:58 GMT
#23
Nice, all 16 players left in Code S have a premier championship.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
May 15 2018 08:23 GMT
#24
On May 15 2018 13:21 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 13:06 argonautdice wrote:
btw, restricting to the offline and vs Korean only parameters, Innovation is best player of LotV with 64.6% win rate in games, and a whopping 70.5% win rate in Bo3+'s. Stats, however, is the "clutchest" player since his game win rate is only 57.7% while his Bo3+ series win rate is 67.4% (a 9.7% difference)!


Artosis also mentioned during the last cast that Inno has the highest winrate out of all the players in GSL. All players who have ever played in GSL, that is, including Mvp and so forth.

Apparently he is tied with soO for most games played in GSL as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sU5McYV-M&feature=youtu.be&t=142

Also most GSL ro16 appearances (14 to Maru's 13 and PartinG's 12)
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Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
May 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#25
On May 15 2018 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 13:21 pvsnp wrote:
On May 15 2018 13:06 argonautdice wrote:
btw, restricting to the offline and vs Korean only parameters, Innovation is best player of LotV with 64.6% win rate in games, and a whopping 70.5% win rate in Bo3+'s. Stats, however, is the "clutchest" player since his game win rate is only 57.7% while his Bo3+ series win rate is 67.4% (a 9.7% difference)!


Artosis also mentioned during the last cast that Inno has the highest winrate out of all the players in GSL. All players who have ever played in GSL, that is, including Mvp and so forth.

Apparently he is tied with soO for most games played in GSL as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sU5McYV-M&feature=youtu.be&t=142

Also most GSL ro16 appearances (14 to Maru's 13 and PartinG's 12)


Except that Parting's were 10 consecutive Ro16.. And he stopped playing more than 2 years ago. Hell, they even named an award after him for that particular feat.

Don't know if anyone else got it since then ?

I guess the next impossible award is 10 consecutive Ro8, with only Stats being in the lead right now with 4 consecutive ones, a 5th still possible.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
Synchrx
Profile Joined September 2017
United Kingdom29 Posts
May 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#26
Tell me I'm wrong, but this is the strongest Ro16 ever? This is going to make for an awesome group selection and rounds! I cannot wait!
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jarodtou
Profile Joined July 2016
167 Posts
May 15 2018 09:11 GMT
#27
On May 15 2018 17:54 Synchronize` wrote:
Tell me I'm wrong, but this is the strongest Ro16 ever? This is going to make for an awesome group selection and rounds! I cannot wait!

probably the best lineup in years, sad that herO did not make it, but other than that, all the good players are there.
Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
May 15 2018 11:07 GMT
#28
Yeah replace Patience (sorry bruh) with herO and that's probably the best line up you could hope for today.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
May 15 2018 11:27 GMT
#29
On May 15 2018 09:25 Obamarauder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 08:32 Boggyb wrote:
I would imagine the top 4 picks go something like Patience -> ByuN -> Solar -> Dear/Trap


top pick is classic if you play zerg. rogue and dark both said classic is first pick when they streamed streamed

Are they trying English, or are they full Korean streams?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 15 2018 14:33 GMT
#30
On May 15 2018 17:50 Snarosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 15 2018 13:21 pvsnp wrote:
On May 15 2018 13:06 argonautdice wrote:
btw, restricting to the offline and vs Korean only parameters, Innovation is best player of LotV with 64.6% win rate in games, and a whopping 70.5% win rate in Bo3+'s. Stats, however, is the "clutchest" player since his game win rate is only 57.7% while his Bo3+ series win rate is 67.4% (a 9.7% difference)!


Artosis also mentioned during the last cast that Inno has the highest winrate out of all the players in GSL. All players who have ever played in GSL, that is, including Mvp and so forth.

Apparently he is tied with soO for most games played in GSL as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sU5McYV-M&feature=youtu.be&t=142

Also most GSL ro16 appearances (14 to Maru's 13 and PartinG's 12)


Except that Parting's were 10 consecutive Ro16.. And he stopped playing more than 2 years ago. Hell, they even named an award after him for that particular feat.

Don't know if anyone else got it since then ?

I guess the next impossible award is 10 consecutive Ro8, with only Stats being in the lead right now with 4 consecutive ones, a 5th still possible.

herO was at 9 consecutive Ro16s until he lost in qualifiers this season. TY was at 5 consecutive Ro8s until he lost in Ro16 last season.
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Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 15 2018 14:38 GMT
#31
On May 15 2018 23:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 17:50 Snarosc wrote:
On May 15 2018 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 15 2018 13:21 pvsnp wrote:
On May 15 2018 13:06 argonautdice wrote:
btw, restricting to the offline and vs Korean only parameters, Innovation is best player of LotV with 64.6% win rate in games, and a whopping 70.5% win rate in Bo3+'s. Stats, however, is the "clutchest" player since his game win rate is only 57.7% while his Bo3+ series win rate is 67.4% (a 9.7% difference)!


Artosis also mentioned during the last cast that Inno has the highest winrate out of all the players in GSL. All players who have ever played in GSL, that is, including Mvp and so forth.

Apparently he is tied with soO for most games played in GSL as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sU5McYV-M&feature=youtu.be&t=142

Also most GSL ro16 appearances (14 to Maru's 13 and PartinG's 12)


Except that Parting's were 10 consecutive Ro16.. And he stopped playing more than 2 years ago. Hell, they even named an award after him for that particular feat.

Don't know if anyone else got it since then ?

I guess the next impossible award is 10 consecutive Ro8, with only Stats being in the lead right now with 4 consecutive ones, a 5th still possible.

herO was at 9 consecutive Ro16s until he lost in qualifiers this season. TY was at 5 consecutive Ro8s until he lost in Ro16 last season.


Damn, I didn't realize that about herO. Kinda feels bad for him now...
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
May 15 2018 16:15 GMT
#32
I just want to see a all protoss or all zerg group again. So that I can just skip it :D
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Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 16:29:11
May 15 2018 16:27 GMT
#33
On May 16 2018 01:15 LennX wrote:
I just want to see a all protoss or all zerg group again. So that I can just skip it :D


Ah the terran "fans" ...

With only 4 zergs, this seems kinda impossible to have a full zerg group.
However, with 7 Protoss it's highly possible to get a full PvPvPvP group, which we've had quite a few times in Ro16...
Stats is the best player of LotV.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 15 2018 18:16 GMT
#34
On May 15 2018 20:07 Snarosc wrote:
Yeah replace Patience (sorry bruh) with herO and that's probably the best line up you could hope for today.


And Dear, he isn't really good since the disbands
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Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
May 15 2018 19:11 GMT
#35
Oh boy, the ro32 really is a flyswatter for all the Zergs, the only ones that made it through are championship material.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 15 2018 20:03 GMT
#36
On May 16 2018 04:11 Kurao wrote:
Oh boy, the ro32 really is a flyswatter for all the Zergs, the only ones that made it through are championship material.


soO and Dark avoid eye contact
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 20:28:20
May 15 2018 20:28 GMT
#37
What happened to the foreigners trying to steal Korean money? They couldn't close the gap, as expected?
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 20:56:45
May 15 2018 20:54 GMT
#38
On May 15 2018 13:02 argonautdice wrote:
If you rank all the players by their series win rates against Koreans in offline Bo3+ during LotV you get the top 16 players among the top 18. The only difference is that herO's (ranked 13) surprise loss in qualifier and Serral (ranked 12 and played only 20 such series, so hard to gauge) didn't try to qualify.

1. Innovation
2. Stats
3. Classic
4. soO
5. Rogue
6. Dark
7. TY
8. sOs
9. Byun
10. Solar
11. Maru
12. Serral
13. herO
14. Dear
15. Trap
16. Gumiho
17. Patience
18. Zest



All of lotv is almost too big a sample..wouldnt be if they didnt completely change the game twice..u had tankivacs and shitty hydras early on with broken ultras... msc..chrono change..its actually kinda insane how different lotv is now from launch point..cant even really decide if its better or worse either.

Will say for sure tho cant recall a ro16 i was more hyped for so cheers to that.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 22:59:42
May 15 2018 21:12 GMT
#39
On May 16 2018 05:54 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 13:02 argonautdice wrote:
If you rank all the players by their series win rates against Koreans in offline Bo3+ during LotV you get the top 16 players among the top 18. The only difference is that herO's (ranked 13) surprise loss in qualifier and Serral (ranked 12 and played only 20 such series, so hard to gauge) didn't try to qualify.

1. Innovation
2. Stats
3. Classic
4. soO
5. Rogue
6. Dark
7. TY
8. sOs
9. Byun
10. Solar
11. Maru
12. Serral
13. herO
14. Dear
15. Trap
16. Gumiho
17. Patience
18. Zest
its actually kinda insane how different lotv is now from launch point..cant even really decide if its better or worse either.

Given the fact there are no tankivacs, broken adepts, pylon cannons, or unkillable ultras, plus the fact all three races seem to be viable right now (last three big events had T/Z/P champion). It's safe to say the game is much better now
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 15 2018 21:21 GMT
#40
On May 16 2018 05:54 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2018 13:02 argonautdice wrote:
If you rank all the players by their series win rates against Koreans in offline Bo3+ during LotV you get the top 16 players among the top 18. The only difference is that herO's (ranked 13) surprise loss in qualifier and Serral (ranked 12 and played only 20 such series, so hard to gauge) didn't try to qualify.

1. Innovation
2. Stats
3. Classic
4. soO
5. Rogue
6. Dark
7. TY
8. sOs
9. Byun
10. Solar
11. Maru
12. Serral
13. herO
14. Dear
15. Trap
16. Gumiho
17. Patience
18. Zest



All of lotv is almost too big a sample..wouldnt be if they didnt completely change the game twice..u had tankivacs and shitty hydras early on with broken ultras... msc..chrono change..its actually kinda insane how different lotv is now from launch point..cant even really decide if its better or worse either.

Will say for sure tho cant recall a ro16 i was more hyped for so cheers to that.


Even more impressive considering how bad INno was in 2016 ( and in the end with him and Dream making cyclones only kek )
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