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Season 2 Map Pool Announced, Effective May 15 - Page 3

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2018 01:36 GMT
#41
On May 02 2018 10:31 NonY wrote:
These will be at WCS Austin?


Yes.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
May 02 2018 02:18 GMT
#42
On May 02 2018 09:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2018 09:29 -NegativeZero- wrote:
On May 02 2018 06:54 Zaros wrote:
Shittiest map pool ever?

clearly you weren't around during WoL


You don't even need to go that far back. Several of the map pools in 2016 were probably worse.


Yeonsu and its 3 different points of entrance for blink. Or Polar Station where 300° of the base had a blinking entrance.

Those where the reasons the dead space between the main and the rest of the map are so large now.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 02 2018 03:17 GMT
#43
Happily surprised there's only 1 Catalyst in this pool
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shadow111
Profile Joined August 2011
29 Posts
May 02 2018 04:05 GMT
#44
Setting aside whether or not the new map pool is better, are you ducking kidding me to change the mappool BEFORE Austin!?!?!?!? Do it AFTER so people can prepare in between WCS Austin and Valencia!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2018 04:06 GMT
#45
On May 02 2018 13:05 shadow111 wrote:
Setting aside whether or not the new map pool is better, are you ducking kidding me to change the mappool BEFORE Austin!?!?!?!? Do it AFTER so people can prepare in between WCS Austin and Valencia!


They have an entire month (and two weeks on ladder) to prepare. It's hardly the same scenario as for Leipzig.
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
May 02 2018 04:09 GMT
#46
Well, there is no BloodBoil in the map pool at least.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4564 Posts
May 02 2018 05:48 GMT
#47
So 100% banrate for Darkness for Bo3/5s or a similar fate as Abiogenesis.

I would like more 4p maps but if there is only 1 of them i the pool, it is going to eat the ban hammer most of the time
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Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
May 02 2018 06:54 GMT
#48
Oh 4 player map with no spawn limitations, let's see how tvz is impacted
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 09:38:23
May 02 2018 06:55 GMT
#49
On May 02 2018 14:48 LennX wrote:
So 100% banrate for Darkness for Bo3/5s or a similar fate as Abiogenesis.

I would like more 4p maps but if there is only 1 of them i the pool, it is going to eat the ban hammer most of the time

Wouldn't be so sure about it. Though the map obviously suffers from the random spawning, the rotational imba isn't too strong and the first 4 bases layout isn't very favourable to random bullshit and abusive plays. Now that it'll be on the ladder, people will have an easier time getting accustomed to it and it'll be played more
rly ?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
May 02 2018 08:17 GMT
#50
On May 02 2018 14:48 LennX wrote:
So 100% banrate for Darkness for Bo3/5s or a similar fate as Abiogenesis.

I would like more 4p maps but if there is only 1 of them i the pool, it is going to eat the ban hammer most of the time

The guaranteed ban will be Redshift but in bo3s we'll probably not see Darkness or Dreamcatcher either.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2018 08:29 GMT
#51
I'm really not excited for this.
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AaBbCc
Profile Joined February 2016
New Zealand110 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 10:50:27
May 02 2018 10:23 GMT
#52
I find it a bit odd that there is this much of a changeup. Five new maps, in the context of Blizzard opting to collect more data, wait for strats to be refined and allow the meta to 'settle' further before making significant balance changes.

Yes, the current map pool is 2p/macro focused but a big changeup doesn't exactly make it simpler to judge balance, especially if the current pool hasn't been entirely figured out / has gotten stale yet. I get that map variation is essential for a robust assessment of balance across map-types but maybe start with changing 3 maps?

This does make me wonder if Blizz will now allow the new batch of maps time to settle before changes to balance. It seems to me a bit silly if they didn't wait, at least a 2-3 months.. Afterall, a balance change around the same time adds a lot more variables to the already ghastly asymmetric equation. Not only does this makes blizzard's life more difficult but seems to also put their aims at cross-purposes to some extent, not to mention the possible (let's be honest here, very probable) highly rousing effect such a situation could have on our Great Chorus of Whiners, a group I suspect are probably just a little bit overly influential... and are certainly not in need of any extra encouragement to dial up the volume knob.

Personally, I'm over NVS and Blackpink and am happy to see abiogenesis go but I'm still having a lot of fun games on Eastwatch and Backwater.

I can't comment on the new maps as haven't played any games on them but I'm looking forward to hiding bases on darkness sanctuary ala Maru vs. Dark >

Oh and what's the deal with this emerging trend of colorful map names? Now with Red/Blue shift we only need a few more before we can petition for #Rainbow pool. Not only is it miles (nay, Leagues ) better than that nightmarish dreampool fiasco, it's also pro-diversity and LGBTQ friendly to boot!

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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 02 2018 11:23 GMT
#53
On May 02 2018 10:31 NonY wrote:
These will be at WCS Austin?


And don't forget sign ups are out to play these new maps in WCS Austin!!! Get your spot today!!!!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 02 2018 12:31 GMT
#54
On May 02 2018 09:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2018 09:29 -NegativeZero- wrote:
On May 02 2018 06:54 Zaros wrote:
Shittiest map pool ever?

clearly you weren't around during WoL


You don't even need to go that far back. Several of the map pools in 2016 were probably worse.


I was but we had excuses of not knowing how the game works back then, after 8 years they should know better than this.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 02 2018 16:03 GMT
#55
On May 02 2018 20:23 Heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2018 10:31 NonY wrote:
These will be at WCS Austin?


And don't forget sign ups are out to play these new maps in WCS Austin!!! Get your spot today!!!!

haha thanks of course these are the pages I bookmarked and had been checking and neither have been updated, so I would've missed it:
https://dreamhack.com/austin/starcraft-ii
https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/3896/
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
May 02 2018 16:31 GMT
#56
i'm going to miss going 15 pylon proxy gateway every single pvt on abiogenesis
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Spirit_HUN
Profile Joined March 2018
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 16:58:49
May 02 2018 16:57 GMT
#57
Feels like Blizzard missed the calander. Its May 1 not Apr 1 ...

This new map pool ...

Blackpink is the best map in the pool and they remove it??? Also they keep Acid Plant??? Acid plant is a boring long rush distance map with a lot of empty spaces also the asthetics are medicore and they keep it???

Glad to see Dreamcatcher made it. Pros said its a worst map they ever played but who cares ... Blizzard has his own way after all ... They add Darkness Sanctuary which is a GSL map, but you never see it outside of bo7-s. So they add that one too. 16 bit is just a lame map like Eastwatch, where the design was like : "just add as many bases as you can". Redshift is just a troll map, you cant describe it other way ... Lost and found seems like an Acid Plant + Blackpink merge. It looks okay first, but as long as you watch it you'll discover a ton of empty space too. Also it feels too big.

Idk, i hope Blizzard will change his mind cause this looks like a bad joke...

ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2018 17:20 GMT
#58
And Blizzard can't even get existing maps right... People have already found things that Blizzard broke on 16-bit and Darkness Sanctuary. It's not like these things are hard to QA.
Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
May 02 2018 21:21 GMT
#59
Yo.. what's with this map pool...
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
May 03 2018 02:45 GMT
#60
Redshift will be vetoed to death.
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