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Maru defeats Dark to win WESG 2017 - Page 3

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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 19 2018 10:07 GMT
#41
On March 19 2018 08:12 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2018 07:05 leublix wrote:
Dark's finals loses are even harder to stomach than soO's. He plays so damn well and most of the time looks like the better player but still manages to lose somehow.

With soO you rarely get the impression that he might really win it.


I still can't believe he didn't pool first g6 or g7. Maru is well known for this type of play Hopefully we'll see some revenge (or fewer proxy losses) in the GSL tournament!

Honestly at this point everyone should know that in that position Maru consistently does a 2rax, and just blind-counter it.
why even
BBO_Tsanibus
Profile Joined April 2015
Bulgaria2 Posts
March 19 2018 12:17 GMT
#42
Will the replays be published?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 19 2018 12:19 GMT
#43
On March 19 2018 21:17 BBO_Tsanibus wrote:
Will the replays be published?

https://lotv.spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1679
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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BBO_Tsanibus
Profile Joined April 2015
Bulgaria2 Posts
March 19 2018 12:22 GMT
#44
Thanks! I found them in Liquidpedia as well. :D
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 19 2018 12:26 GMT
#45
Great tournament, was a blast to watch.
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CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
March 19 2018 12:32 GMT
#46
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 19 2018 16:49 GMT
#47
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark


I feel like I'm one of the few people who didn't like the ByuN Dark final that much. Dark seemed like he really was a better player than ByuN. I guess the reaper abuse kinda killed it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 17:51:12
March 19 2018 17:51 GMT
#48
On March 20 2018 01:49 Fango wrote:
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On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark


I feel like I'm one of the few people who didn't like the ByuN Dark final that much. Dark seemed like he really was a better player than ByuN. I guess the reaper abuse kinda killed it.

The 2016 WCS Grand Finals only had 1 good game, but that one is probably all people remember when talking about it with fondness.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
March 19 2018 21:07 GMT
#49
Never had anything to do with esports. Just playing some sc2.

Then became fan of competitive sc2 cause of the IEM 2014 final, where sOs did back to back inbase proxy vs herO. this bold move in a 100k the winner takes it all final just fascinate me. form there on i followed the scene, especially proleague, and became a quite huge maru and jinair fanboy. now seeing maru winning this biggest single prize ever (220k) in a similar fashon... is rounding it up for me. maybe proxy rax are not as bold. but doing it in game 6 and 7 against the ropes make it compareable imo.

i dont know how long sc2 will hang on, but i will enjoy every tournament left.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
March 19 2018 22:36 GMT
#50
That was definitely a finals worth $200,000. Amazing set of games from both players.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 19 2018 23:06 GMT
#51
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark

Isn't the only other TvZ final we've had since the 2016 WCS Finals the INnoVation Solar beatdown?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 23:12:45
March 19 2018 23:12 GMT
#52
On March 20 2018 08:06 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark

Isn't the only other TvZ final we've had since the 2016 WCS Finals the INnoVation Solar beatdown?

There was Gumiho vs soO as well, no need to ask who won that one.
Denominator of the Universe
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
March 19 2018 23:24 GMT
#53
On March 20 2018 02:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 01:49 Fango wrote:
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark


I feel like I'm one of the few people who didn't like the ByuN Dark final that much. Dark seemed like he really was a better player than ByuN. I guess the reaper abuse kinda killed it.

The 2016 WCS Grand Finals only had 1 good game, but that one is probably all people remember when talking about it with fondness.


I was more fond of the story. ByuN winning back to back GSL and Blizzcon without a team was pretty special imo
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 19 2018 23:27 GMT
#54
On March 20 2018 08:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:06 Boggyb wrote:
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark

Isn't the only other TvZ final we've had since the 2016 WCS Finals the INnoVation Solar beatdown?

There was Gumiho vs soO as well, no need to ask who won that one.

Completely forgot about that one. It was actually kind of decent unlike the Solar Inno one.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 20 2018 18:24 GMT
#55
On March 20 2018 08:27 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:12 pvsnp wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:06 Boggyb wrote:
On March 19 2018 21:32 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
Best TvZ finals I have watched since the 2016 WCS Finals. Funny how both included Dark

Isn't the only other TvZ final we've had since the 2016 WCS Finals the INnoVation Solar beatdown?

There was Gumiho vs soO as well, no need to ask who won that one.

Completely forgot about that one. It was actually kind of decent unlike the Solar Inno one.


Gumiho vs soO is an underrated final. Solar vs Inno was a higher level match from both players, but a lot less entertaining.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
March 20 2018 21:14 GMT
#56
What an interesting ending. Maru's double cheese looked like it really frustrated Dark. Looked like he didn't practice vs cheese in a grand final haha.
I'm terranfying
Mountain_Lee
Profile Joined January 2018
87 Posts
March 21 2018 10:29 GMT
#57
On March 19 2018 02:43 DSh1 wrote:
To be honest, I don't know how Dark could not see the proxy rax in game 7. Maru ALWAYS relies on cheese when he is feeling pressured.


maru researched dark's searching tracks and choose there
engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 07:24:02
March 22 2018 07:23 GMT
#58

WESG 2017 Grand Final Awards Ceremony.
Those who missed. Btw, Serral, Dark and Maru were awarded with extra money 4k/8k/20k.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
insidiousapricot
Profile Joined February 2016
11 Posts
March 23 2018 23:31 GMT
#59
On March 19 2018 02:54 KR_4EVR wrote:
(T)Maru had an eureka moment of apotheosis midway through the series. He knew he could beat Dark in late game, he could beat Dark's all-ins, and he could beat Dark with bio pushes BUT if he didn't micro perfectly, Dark would win in each of those cases. So he made a huge decision, realising that if he put the stress on (Z)Dark instead, it would be up to Dark to have to micro perfectly to hold - which is really hard in a 2-3 hour long best of 7 under huge stress and monetary pressure.

Maru, you have finally absorbed the teachings of $O$ - and a similar paycheck.


These guys play the game more hours per day than I show up at work to earn my meager "living." And you're looking at top level pros who have been in these situations (semis/finals offline) so many times, unless one of them is like man if I don't take #1 I won't be able to afford the gas bill for my parents house next winter (definitely not the case)... these cats are loaded because they keep placing so well, as they should be. I'll give them some of my money just to watch them play! Maru is killing it in real late game scenarios, but Dark has for many years when i've been screaming "dude build more zerglings/banes, do more early aggression!, more drops" etc., he always does. And he hits at the right time and he hits hard. Maru took the right steps to win. Dark breaks him too early for him to get comfortable with his super late game which we never really saw in this series. Rematch tonight is going to be awesome!
insidiousapricot
Profile Joined February 2016
11 Posts
March 23 2018 23:37 GMT
#60
We have a huge REMATCH from WESG BO7 here tonight, all of you nerds better stay up, it's Friday! Call upon all your nerd friends, your sisters, your mom and dad, your long lost second cousins that called on you after you won the lottery or received your inheritance from that Nigerian prince you made a down payment for! Let's get everyone in here to support STARCRAFT, the most competitive 1v1 game of all time!
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