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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
February 01 2018 12:52 GMT
#41
That isn't an O in "sOs". It's a halo. All glory for our Protoss saviour in this dark age of oppression!.
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Mike L
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany162 Posts
February 01 2018 13:25 GMT
#42
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-01 16:30:28
February 01 2018 16:30 GMT
#43
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
February 01 2018 16:56 GMT
#44
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss

Maru is not in great form. He wins against small fry and loses to a lot of notable players in the past couple of months.

Classic is very good, and Dear is decent. I can't really speak for Gumiho.

herO is in quite good form recently, Stats is in decent form, and sOs is always a threat.

Stats is about equal with Classic, sOs and herO are better than Dear and Gumiho, and Trap is worse though perhaps in better form than Maru.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 01 2018 17:00 GMT
#45
No, Stats isnt in a great shape.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 01 2018 17:01 GMT
#46
On February 02 2018 01:56 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss

Maru is not in great form. He wins against small fry and loses to a lot of notable players in the past couple of months.

Classic is very good, and Dear is decent. I can't really speak for Gumiho.

herO is in quite good form recently, Stats is in decent form, and sOs is always a threat.

Stats is about equal with Classic, sOs and herO are better than Dear and Gumiho, and Trap is worse though perhaps in better form than Maru.

Noone is as hot as classic right now:

Results for kr Classic after 2017-12-01.

Games: 74.70% (62-21)
Matches: 81.25% (26-6)

Current form:
      L W W W W W W W L W
Recent matches:
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr Impact
       kr Classic 1 – 2 kr Stats
       kr Classic 2 – 1 kr jjakji
       kr Classic 3 – 0 kr sOs
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr herO
       kr Classic 2 – 1 kr soO
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr Solar
       kr Classic 3 – 1 kr Dark
       kr Classic 3 – 0 kr Maru
       kr Classic 2 – 3 kr INnoVation


Filters:
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Mike L
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany162 Posts
February 01 2018 17:11 GMT
#47
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss


that`s not overrating that`s respecting the names all this toss have more titles and strong tournament runs than all other squads in the groups. plus dear doesn`t look like a reigning crown player anymore despite his decent results at the start of the season, gumiho is too unpredictable and maru is actually in bad form right now he tossed up the tongues because his performance at the Katowice quali but even with that at the end he failed it and proceeding struggles in his GSL group. only Classic looks like a devastation machine right now but it still didn`t stop him to conceding first place in the group to Stats
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
February 01 2018 17:43 GMT
#48
On February 01 2018 08:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2018 07:23 Waxangel wrote:
On February 01 2018 07:18 Seeker wrote:
Title has been changed. "Group Nominations" is incorrect. It is "Group Selections".

It literally says "group nominations" in the GSL graphic during the actual broadcast

Well they're wrong, and Seeker is right, obviously

Why not compensate and call it George MyungSik like the good old days
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 01 2018 18:01 GMT
#49
On February 02 2018 01:56 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss

Maru is not in great form. He wins against small fry and loses to a lot of notable players in the past couple of months.

Classic is very good, and Dear is decent. I can't really speak for Gumiho.

herO is in quite good form recently, Stats is in decent form, and sOs is always a threat.

Stats is about equal with Classic, sOs and herO are better than Dear and Gumiho, and Trap is worse though perhaps in better form than Maru.


Hell no. Classic the best toss in the world right now. Dear isn't far behind either. Both of them are looking better than Stats or herO (those two may have better results over the past year but haven't done anything on the new patch). Maru is also in very good form against Z and P right now. In the IEM qualifiers he looked like a top 2 terran.

The only contender for the trophy in group D is sOs.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
February 01 2018 18:11 GMT
#50
On February 02 2018 03:01 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:56 FrkFrJss wrote:
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss

Maru is not in great form. He wins against small fry and loses to a lot of notable players in the past couple of months.

Classic is very good, and Dear is decent. I can't really speak for Gumiho.

herO is in quite good form recently, Stats is in decent form, and sOs is always a threat.

Stats is about equal with Classic, sOs and herO are better than Dear and Gumiho, and Trap is worse though perhaps in better form than Maru.


Hell no. Classic the best toss in the world right now. Dear isn't far behind either. Both of them are looking better than Stats or herO (those two may have better results over the past year but haven't done anything on the new patch). Maru is also in very good form against Z and P right now. In the IEM qualifiers he looked like a top 2 terran.

The only contender for the trophy in group D is sOs.

I know you dislike herO but he's looking excellent on the new patch as well.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2840 Posts
February 01 2018 18:27 GMT
#51
Group B definitely the group of death. Hory Shit.
aka wilted_kale
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1948 Posts
February 01 2018 18:29 GMT
#52
Honestly I haven't watched Starcraft 2 in a long time, but I want to watch group D cause I love sOs and all his bullshit.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-01 18:49:07
February 01 2018 18:44 GMT
#53
On February 02 2018 03:29 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Honestly I haven't watched Starcraft 2 in a long time, but I want to watch group D cause I love sOs and all his bullshit.

One viewer for Group D confirmed. I repeat, one viewer for Group D.

The broadcast of Five Thrilling Matches of A-Moving Archons and Possibly a Guest Appearance by Phoenix vs Phoenix will not be completely ignored!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 01 2018 19:02 GMT
#54
On February 02 2018 03:44 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 03:29 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Honestly I haven't watched Starcraft 2 in a long time, but I want to watch group D cause I love sOs and all his bullshit.

One viewer for Group D confirmed. I repeat, one viewer for Group D.

The broadcast of Five Thrilling Matches of A-Moving Archons and Possibly a Guest Appearance by Phoenix vs Phoenix will not be completely ignored!


Hey don't speek to fast I'm sure sOs will find a way to squeeze somme good old proxy Shield bateries-stalker-void ray all in vs herO
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curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-01 20:31:11
February 01 2018 20:29 GMT
#55
On February 02 2018 03:44 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 03:29 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Honestly I haven't watched Starcraft 2 in a long time, but I want to watch group D cause I love sOs and all his bullshit.

One viewer for Group D confirmed. I repeat, one viewer for Group D.

The broadcast of Five Thrilling Matches of A-Moving Archons and Possibly a Guest Appearance by Phoenix vs Phoenix will not be completely ignored!



I will take PvP over TvT, ZvZ every second of every day and at least half the time over ZvT.

TvT cyclone wars are way less interesting than all of the ludicrous and hilarious ways that PvP devolves. I'd be rather shocked if in total there were more than 5 games from that group that make it to the 12 min mark (and I have to hedge that bet only so high because Classic and Stats together have had some pretty big macro games).

KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
February 02 2018 00:31 GMT
#56
Well, at least group D will not be a depressing shitfest since we will finally know who is the best Protoss right now...
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 02 2018 00:46 GMT
#57
On February 02 2018 09:31 KaiserCommander wrote:
Well, at least group D will not be a depressing shitfest since we will finally know who is the best Protoss right now...


Classic's not in group D. Also PvP's a rather poor indicator for overall form.
curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
February 02 2018 01:08 GMT
#58
On February 02 2018 02:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:56 FrkFrJss wrote:
On February 02 2018 01:30 Fango wrote:
On February 01 2018 22:25 Mike L wrote:
On February 01 2018 21:27 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one that things D isn't the group of death? B and C are harder imo


no way about C... for B it`s arguable but at the same time alive doesn`t look as strong as any protoss from group D


Classic, Dear, and Maru are all looking in really good form right now. When in good form all three are championship contenders. Gumiho is not to be underrated either given how much he upset last year.

In group D only sOs and Stats are potential champions imo. People are overrating the group because it's all toss

Maru is not in great form. He wins against small fry and loses to a lot of notable players in the past couple of months.

Classic is very good, and Dear is decent. I can't really speak for Gumiho.

herO is in quite good form recently, Stats is in decent form, and sOs is always a threat.

Stats is about equal with Classic, sOs and herO are better than Dear and Gumiho, and Trap is worse though perhaps in better form than Maru.

Noone is as hot as classic right now:

Results for kr Classic after 2017-12-01.

Games: 74.70% (62-21)
Matches: 81.25% (26-6)

Current form:
      L W W W W W W W L W
Recent matches:
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr Impact
       kr Classic 1 – 2 kr Stats
       kr Classic 2 – 1 kr jjakji
       kr Classic 3 – 0 kr sOs
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr herO
       kr Classic 2 – 1 kr soO
       kr Classic 2 – 0 kr Solar
       kr Classic 3 – 1 kr Dark
       kr Classic 3 – 0 kr Maru
       kr Classic 2 – 3 kr INnoVation


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.





I'll take herO's 2x the games and effectively identical match win-rate at 83% this year.

I'd say he is just as hot.

Results for kr herO after 2018-01-01.

Games: 71.77% (89-35)
Matches: 83.33% (35-7)

Current form:
      W W W W W W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr KeeN
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr RagnaroK
       kr herO 4 – 1 kr INnoVation
       kr herO 3 – 0 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr MMA
       kr herO 3 – 2 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr Ryung
       kr herO 2 – 0 cn Cloudy
       kr herO 2 – 1 kr TY
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr 빵신형


Filters:
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-02 01:16:48
February 02 2018 01:14 GMT
#59
The additional filter of only looking at games vs south koreans is warranted here i think (i did so for classic btw), if we do that:

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr herO after 2018-01-01.

Games: 65.91% (58-30)
Matches: 75.86% (22-7)

Current form:
      L W W W W W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr KeeN
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr RagnaroK
       kr herO 4 – 1 kr INnoVation
       kr herO 3 – 0 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr MMA
       kr herO 3 – 2 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr Ryung
       kr herO 2 – 1 kr TY
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr 빵신형
       kr herO 2 – 3 kr Zest


Filters:
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Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


herO farmed some foreigners and even low lvl ones this year

Though i agree that herO in general looks on point, classic is still a bit ahead.
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curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
February 02 2018 01:18 GMT
#60
On February 02 2018 10:14 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The additional filter of only looking at games vs south koreans is warranted here i think (i did so for classic btw), if we do that:

Results for kr herO after 2018-01-01.

Games: 65.91% (58-30)
Matches: 75.86% (22-7)

Current form:
      L W W W W W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr KeeN
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr RagnaroK
       kr herO 4 – 1 kr INnoVation
       kr herO 3 – 0 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr MMA
       kr herO 3 – 2 kr Impact
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr Ryung
       kr herO 2 – 1 kr TY
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr 빵신형
       kr herO 2 – 3 kr Zest


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

herO farmed some foreigners and even low lvl ones this year

Though i agree that herO in general looks on point, classic is still a bit ahead.


Ahh. good catch. But 81% match score vs 76%. I don't think I'd split hairs either way haha. Still. For sure, herO seems to have PvT on lockdown better than anyone else. Wish he and Zest were swapped lol.
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