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Impact, Leenock, Bunny, jjakji, Ragnarok join TitanEX1

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 12:13:51
January 05 2018 05:42 GMT
#1
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A new version of the GSL Code S groups was published with 5 players, (Z)Leenock, (T)Bunny, (T)jjakji, (Z)Impact and (Z)RagnaroK on a new team, TitanEX1. Not much is known about this team and the signings have gone under the radar but both Impact and Bunny have confirmed it on twitter.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 05 2018 05:46 GMT
#2
Thank you Maruzest.

I dont know what to think about Leenock.

But great for jjakji, Bunny and Impact.
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engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
January 05 2018 05:58 GMT
#3
wha~a~aaaat? TitanEX1 saving sc2.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 06:58:35
January 05 2018 06:09 GMT
#4
I hope it works out for the players, though this team seems a bit odd to say the least. TitanEX1's entire online presence is a one man show organized by this keaneu guy. They do have an address in Seoul so I guess someone could check it out.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 05 2018 07:44 GMT
#5
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 08:16:51
January 05 2018 08:16 GMT
#6
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 08:22:50
January 05 2018 08:21 GMT
#7
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 05 2018 08:22 GMT
#8
That's one nice average team right there.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 05 2018 08:24 GMT
#9
On January 05 2018 17:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.


Which is precisely my concern. Where is this guy's money coming from?
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 08:35:47
January 05 2018 08:35 GMT
#10
On January 05 2018 17:24 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 17:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.


Which is precisely my concern. Where is this guy's money coming from?


Currently there isn't any evidence that there is any money, though they do list an office address "중구 명동2길 34, 9층 9141호 (충무로1가,케이티명동빌딩" which doesn't look like its supposed to be just a mailing address like the other Singapore address. Someone in Seoul could check that out, and if there's actually an office there (or at least the office space is payed for) they probably have the money to pay the players.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 08:45:10
January 05 2018 08:44 GMT
#11
I am....apprehensive....about this new team and its legitimacy, or possible lack thereof.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
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LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada523 Posts
January 05 2018 08:45 GMT
#12
There's a lot of skepticism regarding this team and I agree with it to some extent. Everyone (players included) have seen a lot of teams come and go in SC2 throughout the years. Team scams are well known so I highly doubt these players could be seriously ripped off unless they went in foolishly without a decent payment plan/schedule.

It's possible that this team could go under randomly one day but if the players are paid in the meantime I say go for it.
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RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
January 05 2018 09:00 GMT
#13
On January 05 2018 17:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 17:24 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.


Which is precisely my concern. Where is this guy's money coming from?


Currently there isn't any evidence that there is any money, though they do list an office address "중구 명동2길 34, 9층 9141호 (충무로1가,케이티명동빌딩" which doesn't look like its supposed to be just a mailing address like the other Singapore address. Someone in Seoul could check that out, and if there's actually an office there (or at least the office space is payed for) they probably have the money to pay the players.


I'll check it out next week.
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Snuzzy
Profile Joined July 2016
10 Posts
January 05 2018 09:08 GMT
#14
On January 05 2018 18:00 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 17:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:24 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.


Which is precisely my concern. Where is this guy's money coming from?


Currently there isn't any evidence that there is any money, though they do list an office address "중구 명동2길 34, 9층 9141호 (충무로1가,케이티명동빌딩" which doesn't look like its supposed to be just a mailing address like the other Singapore address. Someone in Seoul could check that out, and if there's actually an office there (or at least the office space is payed for) they probably have the money to pay the players.


I'll check it out next week.



god bless you rapid, saving esports on step at a time
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
January 05 2018 09:14 GMT
#15
you linked the teamliquid danish bunny but it's the korean bunny[name], no?
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GrimscII
Profile Joined August 2016
28 Posts
January 05 2018 09:46 GMT
#16
It's Ragnarok in the title not Ragnorok am I wrong ?
I hope it will go well...
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
January 05 2018 10:15 GMT
#17
knowing Impact was part of Axiom and is close with Crank and Olimoley who would not allow him to join some scam team(I hope) I'm inclined to believe this is legit.

I hope I'm correct.
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
January 05 2018 11:17 GMT
#18
On January 05 2018 17:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2018 17:24 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2018 17:16 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 05 2018 16:44 Solar424 wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this. Googling TitanEX1 brings this thread up first so this company/organization/whatever it is is basically invisible. I hope we don't have another LYGF situation on our hands, but it's definitely a possibility.


It reminds me more of Sonic & SBENU. A young, rich guy with an interest in esports and money to burn.


There's no product yet in this case though. TitanEX1 has a little code on GitHub, some data mining stuff you can see on Twitch, a few mostly empty websites, everything managed by this one person, and that's all.


Which is precisely my concern. Where is this guy's money coming from?


Currently there isn't any evidence that there is any money, though they do list an office address "중구 명동2길 34, 9층 9141호 (충무로1가,케이티명동빌딩" which doesn't look like its supposed to be just a mailing address like the other Singapore address. Someone in Seoul could check that out, and if there's actually an office there (or at least the office space is payed for) they probably have the money to pay the players.


there is a singapore address? link me to it and i can check it over the weekend.
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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
January 05 2018 11:45 GMT
#19
Well... one can only hope for the best, just like with the new (greek?) Meliora in the rest of the WCS.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 05 2018 12:12 GMT
#20
On January 05 2018 18:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you linked the teamliquid danish bunny but it's the korean bunny[name], no?

Yes. The Danish Bunny is basically retired so I kind of forget about him to make sure I got the right one
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keaneu
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)65 Posts
January 05 2018 16:39 GMT
#21
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 18:23:48
January 05 2018 18:23 GMT
#22
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 05 2018 18:29 GMT
#23
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 05 2018 18:31 GMT
#24
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


As far as we know he is the team.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 05 2018 19:48 GMT
#25
yeah its 1 guy
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
January 05 2018 20:13 GMT
#26
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


That's very interesting. Few years ago, I was looking into developing some RTS agents, there was a lot of support and some nice API for SC1, so I've tried that, but since I don't know much about that game, debugging was a nightmare, it's really nice to see there is some groundwork laid out for SC2, I'll check it out, add something if I find the time, thanks a lot for all your efforts!
RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
January 05 2018 23:31 GMT
#27
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


Obviously naver translate or something was used and I don't fault you for that at all. I guess my question would be what kind of support are you giving the players? I understand if you don't want to give exact terms of contracts if there are any, but what are you doing for them? Do they get a team house provided? Meals? A small salary or stipend?

I understand gamer salaries can be incredibly low ($500-1000/month?), so it's not unbelievable for a relatively high net worth individual creating a team when the demand for players is low. However, I think the biggest tell of legitimacy is whether the players have been paid or have been receiving any sort of compensation yet. If keaneu or one of the players could confirm that, a lot of this thread will be put to rest and congratulations will be given without cease.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 01:31 GMT
#28
On January 06 2018 08:31 RoninKenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


Obviously naver translate or something was used and I don't fault you for that at all. I guess my question would be what kind of support are you giving the players? I understand if you don't want to give exact terms of contracts if there are any, but what are you doing for them? Do they get a team house provided? Meals? A small salary or stipend?

I understand gamer salaries can be incredibly low ($500-1000/month?), so it's not unbelievable for a relatively high net worth individual creating a team when the demand for players is low. However, I think the biggest tell of legitimacy is whether the players have been paid or have been receiving any sort of compensation yet. If keaneu or one of the players could confirm that, a lot of this thread will be put to rest and congratulations will be given without cease.


Why would naver translate have been used?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 06 2018 03:28 GMT
#29
Team gets prize money, doesn't pay players, then TL says, "GUYS WE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN" calling it.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 04:02:09
January 06 2018 04:01 GMT
#30
Ok let's assume there isn't actually any money, even though the players thought there was some. What difference does it really make? It's not like they have a bunch of other opportunities waiting for them?

Edit:
I suppose, yes, it's possible if they are foolish and let their prize earnings go through the team first, then they can lose something out of it.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 09:39:55
January 06 2018 09:38 GMT
#31
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 06 2018 10:03 GMT
#32
On January 06 2018 18:38 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.

That's really cool, thanks for the update Rapid
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 06 2018 20:26 GMT
#33
On January 06 2018 18:38 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.

Great to hear that this team is legit. Thanks for verifying, Rapid.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 20:34 GMT
#34
Very nice to hear.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 07 2018 05:11 GMT
#35
With an artificial intelligence startup esports team, that's exactly what I expected would be the case. Cool to hear, hopefully good things come out of it all.
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