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2018 IEM PyeongChang qualifiers and details - Page 3

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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
November 30 2017 00:22 GMT
#41
lol I guess we will know who the two finalists are early.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 30 2017 00:33 GMT
#42
On November 30 2017 09:22 zealotstim wrote:
lol I guess we will know who the two finalists are early.

Neeb and Special?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
November 30 2017 00:42 GMT
#43
Wait.. why does Europe get 5 spots?? This is a joke.
I expected a fair slot distribution as it's an Olympics associated event but why the hell does Europe get special treatment?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10103 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-30 00:47:45
November 30 2017 00:47 GMT
#44
SA 2nd place could be ByRada(z) or Jarppi(t), maybe Ryu(z) if he plays. i havent heard anything abou KiLLeR in a while, im not sure if he is still playing.

p.s. is CatZ going to play?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-30 00:52:29
November 30 2017 00:50 GMT
#45
I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
November 30 2017 01:20 GMT
#46
I wonder why is it announced so late....
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
November 30 2017 02:44 GMT
#47
How about adding a global qualification?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2017 03:06 GMT
#48
On November 30 2017 09:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Wait.. why does Europe get 5 spots?? This is a joke.
I expected a fair slot distribution as it's an Olympics associated event but why the hell does Europe get special treatment?


That's the part you find unfair? And how is it special treatment? Asia also has five slots.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-30 09:07:25
November 30 2017 09:07 GMT
#49
The Olympics is about international sportsmanship. NA has 3 countries, Europe has ~40. What I find surprising is the singular spot for Africa. That continent has a bunch of countries too. My guess for why is that the limited 16 players warrants higher quality of players, making the weak region of Africa get fewer spots despite having a lot of countries.
In regular Olympics there are a lot of participants that are happy with just attending, even if they are sure to finish last. It is the international unity through sports that is the core of Olympics, not the competitiveness.

Being an IEM event there are conflicting aspects of intent. That has to affect the tournament as well.
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
November 30 2017 12:04 GMT
#50
On November 30 2017 09:11 breaker1328 wrote:
I don't see what the fuss is about when it comes to a lack of Korean players at an Olympic style event. It's like saying that it's unfair that Canada can only send one hockey team to the Olympics even though Canada could probably ice at least 3 Olympic level teams.

S.Korea gets one player for their region and likely the second player is for being the "host country." Five players from Europe also makes sense given their population density and the number of countries these players need to represent. I'm fine with the player distribution. Whichever Korean ends up going to this thing is probably going to win it anyway and if you really need to get your Korean SC2 fix then just watch their qualifiers and skip the main tournament.


I agree with that. If anything I could see scratching EU central and giving another spot to AUS, seeing how SA has two spots.

I think what's really unfortunate is the timing with WESG around the corner which basically has the same format.
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 30 2017 12:10 GMT
#51
On November 30 2017 09:50 Fango wrote:
I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead


You just won the thread
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
November 30 2017 12:11 GMT
#52
Nice
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
November 30 2017 12:11 GMT
#53
On November 30 2017 21:10 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 09:50 Fango wrote:
I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead


You just won the thread


This is hilarious
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 30 2017 12:46 GMT
#54
So they're going for a South American region, not Latin..

Who will qualify besides Kelazhur, does Catz still compete?

On November 30 2017 09:50 Fango wrote:
I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead


Usopsama will worship the ground you walk on

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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-30 12:58:31
November 30 2017 12:58 GMT
#55
The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch.
LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
November 30 2017 13:16 GMT
#56
On November 30 2017 21:58 ParksonVN wrote:
The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch.


I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen.
And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it.
And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans.
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-30 13:31:29
November 30 2017 13:30 GMT
#57
On November 30 2017 22:16 LDaVinci wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 21:58 ParksonVN wrote:
The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch.


I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen.
And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it.
And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans.


Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
November 30 2017 13:41 GMT
#58
On November 30 2017 22:30 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 22:16 LDaVinci wrote:
On November 30 2017 21:58 ParksonVN wrote:
The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch.


I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen.
And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it.
And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans.


Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY.

yeah some dude on Reddit made a thread about the winrates of foreigners vs koreans in bo5. It was pretty low.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
November 30 2017 13:45 GMT
#59
On November 30 2017 22:30 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2017 22:16 LDaVinci wrote:
On November 30 2017 21:58 ParksonVN wrote:
The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch.


I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen.
And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it.
And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans.


Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY.


I can't see where you contradict any of my points.
The gae should be interesting even if koreans win the whole tournaments. And even a 3-0 victory can be done after 3 really intense and tense games
Those who refuse to become better, already stop being good
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 30 2017 14:38 GMT
#60
Because wesg 2016 was interesting ?

Stop fooling yourself, guys like you are ruining kr scene.
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