• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:02
CET 00:02
KST 08:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win When will we find out if there are more tournament I am looking for StarCraft 2 Beta Patch files Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview
Tourneys
$70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1190 users

Rogue: Climbing the Ladder - Rank 2 - Road to BlizzCon - P…

Forum Index > SC2 General
71 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 24 2017 21:20 GMT
#41
On October 25 2017 00:53 hexhaven wrote:
Taking bets on who the last article is about!

Life?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 24 2017 21:31 GMT
#42
How about this, assuming INnoVation is #1, any bets what the title would be?

My takes:
1. INnoVation: The Man, The Machine - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
2. INnoVation: Pure Domination - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
3. INnoVation: The Baby-Faced Destroyer - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 21:59:49
October 24 2017 21:54 GMT
#43
On October 25 2017 06:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
How about this, assuming INnoVation is #1, any bets what the title would be?

My takes:
1. INnoVation: The Man, The Machine - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
2. INnoVation: Pure Domination - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
3. INnoVation: The Baby-Faced Destroyer - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon

Should fortune smile upon us, stuchiu will bestir himself and write an amazing article like the ones we used to get back in the glory days of yesteryear. More likely mizen or hex will write the article (nothing against them, but I always did like stuchiu's writing the most).

As far as titles go, the subtitle is the only unique bit so I will just specify that:

1. The Man, The Myth, The Machine
2. The Empty Throne
3. Dictator of Terran
4. Leaving a Legacy
5. Threshold of Immortality
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 24 2017 21:55 GMT
#44
On October 25 2017 06:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
How about this, assuming INnoVation is #1, any bets what the title would be?

My takes:
1. INnoVation: The Man, The Machine - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
2. INnoVation: Pure Domination - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
3. INnoVation: The Baby-Faced Destroyer - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon

Definitely number one.

But I wouldn't mind "The Dictator of Terran" as the GSL named him
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 24 2017 22:03 GMT
#45
Inno needs to win Blizzcon for the sake of the community.

The furiously controversial GOAT discussion that follows will revive the passion of all esports nerds here assembled.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 22:42 GMT
#46
Rogue has ascended to macro godhood but he hasn't completely abandoned his unique builds and strategies. Countering a carrier transition by making swarmhosts was not even close to standard.

My one fear as a huge Rogue fanboy is whether he got complacent after qualifying for the WCS Finals. It would be understandable considering his murderous path to get there but it would be sad. If he plays at that level, I think he's the Blizzcon favorite.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 24 2017 23:32 GMT
#47
Rogue is super super good right now but I have a slight worry that he might not perform at Blizzcon. Obviously, he has the skill to win it, but it's a super stacked tournament and many of these players are capable of beating each other. Rogue might be one of the "favourites" but that doesn't mean that much in such a high level tournament.

My favourite Rogue game is still the game against herO when he went hydra bane rain on Cloud Kingdom (i think). That was so sick.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
October 24 2017 23:43 GMT
#48
Innovation: The second coming of Flash
[url]http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg[/url]
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
October 24 2017 23:50 GMT
#49
The match between innovation and Rogue shows Rogue has the potential to go toe to toe with Innovation.

Can't wait to see how he performs in blizzcon.

I still remembered Rogue giving a smirk to the camera in a zvz game when he built swarm hosts to counter roach and hydras. So creative!
Big Red Dog!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 25 2017 01:31 GMT
#50
On October 25 2017 08:50 BigRedDog wrote:
So creative!

Let's not apply that insult of TLO onto Rogue who has actually won something of note in his life.
beepbeeeeeeep
Profile Joined February 2017
145 Posts
October 25 2017 02:09 GMT
#51
sOs #1 confirmed
kyomezzo
Profile Joined February 2014
57 Posts
October 25 2017 02:18 GMT
#52
Am I the only one who came here just to check how HerO was mentioned? LOL
Brain Zerg is back <3
nabresrotciv
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom32 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 02:47:44
October 25 2017 02:44 GMT
#53
On October 25 2017 04:59 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 04:53 Zealously wrote:
On October 25 2017 03:03 Morbidius wrote:
I don't think Inno deserves #1, just because he sucks when he's not playing in Korea, all the beatdowns he got from Life and Taeja are more than enough evidence.

On October 25 2017 01:44 Zealously wrote:
I'm glad people aren't giving undue attention to the ramblings of some writer and properly focusing on what really matters, the ordering of players


Because these articles are mostly obtuse ramblings that try to build fake narratives. Hell we have better GSL RO32 previews than this.


I'm not sure what you mean by fake narrative, honestly, but I'm interested in finding out. To me that implies a dishonesty in how a player is portrayed, and while I agree that TL previews can be far-fetched, I would rarely call them dishonest. Will you elaborate?

You put it quite well, i'm not saying they're dishonest, just far-fetched and too emotional/dramatic. Giving soO or Snute such protrayal is fine, but it gets old when the previews portray all 16 players in such a way.
Also some more about their playstyle would be great: What are their strenghts? Their weaknesses? What makes them different? What were their best games this year?



I’m so happy that you reached this point of discussion. I completely agree with whats being said here, I just don’t think sc2 scene is one to transition real sports or even other esports stupid lines, hype and introductions that have to sound epic, maybe one player out of them should
have been more than enough for those big words that never transcend reality “the monster”, “the KR ladder king”, “the machine”, who calls them that anyway? just nonsene. I’m just angry on how a game thats supposed to be played and watched by people averaging a higher iq than ones following a ball gets dragged in this miserable and idiotic far fetched media crap, you don’t fool us, never have and never will.
gg
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 25 2017 05:43 GMT
#54
On October 25 2017 08:32 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Rogue is super super good right now but I have a slight worry that he might not perform at Blizzcon. Obviously, he has the skill to win it, but it's a super stacked tournament and many of these players are capable of beating each other. Rogue might be one of the "favourites" but that doesn't mean that much in such a high level tournament.

My favourite Rogue game is still the game against herO when he went hydra bane rain on Cloud Kingdom (i think). That was so sick.

Echo. That's one of mine as well
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
October 25 2017 05:45 GMT
#55
On October 25 2017 11:44 nabresrotciv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 04:59 Morbidius wrote:
On October 25 2017 04:53 Zealously wrote:
On October 25 2017 03:03 Morbidius wrote:
I don't think Inno deserves #1, just because he sucks when he's not playing in Korea, all the beatdowns he got from Life and Taeja are more than enough evidence.

On October 25 2017 01:44 Zealously wrote:
I'm glad people aren't giving undue attention to the ramblings of some writer and properly focusing on what really matters, the ordering of players


Because these articles are mostly obtuse ramblings that try to build fake narratives. Hell we have better GSL RO32 previews than this.


I'm not sure what you mean by fake narrative, honestly, but I'm interested in finding out. To me that implies a dishonesty in how a player is portrayed, and while I agree that TL previews can be far-fetched, I would rarely call them dishonest. Will you elaborate?

You put it quite well, i'm not saying they're dishonest, just far-fetched and too emotional/dramatic. Giving soO or Snute such protrayal is fine, but it gets old when the previews portray all 16 players in such a way.
Also some more about their playstyle would be great: What are their strenghts? Their weaknesses? What makes them different? What were their best games this year?



I’m so happy that you reached this point of discussion. I completely agree with whats being said here, I just don’t think sc2 scene is one to transition real sports or even other esports stupid lines, hype and introductions that have to sound epic, maybe one player out of them should
have been more than enough for those big words that never transcend reality “the monster”, “the KR ladder king”, “the machine”, who calls them that anyway? just nonsene. I’m just angry on how a game thats supposed to be played and watched by people averaging a higher iq than ones following a ball gets dragged in this miserable and idiotic far fetched media crap, you don’t fool us, never have and never will.


Why would Starcraft watching imply you're smarter than people watching football?
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 23:42:37
October 25 2017 06:10 GMT
#56
Met him at the GSL Super Tournament recently. Very nice bloke. Behind the scenes there:
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
October 25 2017 06:48 GMT
#57
On October 25 2017 06:31 Twinkle Toes wrote:
How about this, assuming INnoVation is #1, any bets what the title would be?

My takes:
1. INnoVation: The Man, The Machine - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
2. INnoVation: Pure Domination - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon
3. INnoVation: The Baby-Faced Destroyer - Rank 1 - Road to Blizzcon

Anatomy of a player, by Waxangel
Random Platinum EU
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation187 Posts
October 25 2017 06:52 GMT
#58
Great article!
In my opinion one of the most notable evolutions of a player: from being a trickster to a solid macro player.
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation187 Posts
October 25 2017 06:53 GMT
#59
On October 25 2017 08:32 blooblooblahblah wrote:
My favourite Rogue game is still the game against herO when he went hydra bane rain on Cloud Kingdom (i think). That was so sick.


That was the sickest moment of SC2 HOtS ))
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 25 2017 07:17 GMT
#60
On October 25 2017 14:45 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 11:44 nabresrotciv wrote:
On October 25 2017 04:59 Morbidius wrote:
On October 25 2017 04:53 Zealously wrote:
On October 25 2017 03:03 Morbidius wrote:
I don't think Inno deserves #1, just because he sucks when he's not playing in Korea, all the beatdowns he got from Life and Taeja are more than enough evidence.

On October 25 2017 01:44 Zealously wrote:
I'm glad people aren't giving undue attention to the ramblings of some writer and properly focusing on what really matters, the ordering of players


Because these articles are mostly obtuse ramblings that try to build fake narratives. Hell we have better GSL RO32 previews than this.


I'm not sure what you mean by fake narrative, honestly, but I'm interested in finding out. To me that implies a dishonesty in how a player is portrayed, and while I agree that TL previews can be far-fetched, I would rarely call them dishonest. Will you elaborate?

You put it quite well, i'm not saying they're dishonest, just far-fetched and too emotional/dramatic. Giving soO or Snute such protrayal is fine, but it gets old when the previews portray all 16 players in such a way.
Also some more about their playstyle would be great: What are their strenghts? Their weaknesses? What makes them different? What were their best games this year?



I’m so happy that you reached this point of discussion. I completely agree with whats being said here, I just don’t think sc2 scene is one to transition real sports or even other esports stupid lines, hype and introductions that have to sound epic, maybe one player out of them should
have been more than enough for those big words that never transcend reality “the monster”, “the KR ladder king”, “the machine”, who calls them that anyway? just nonsene. I’m just angry on how a game thats supposed to be played and watched by people averaging a higher iq than ones following a ball gets dragged in this miserable and idiotic far fetched media crap, you don’t fool us, never have and never will.


Why would Starcraft watching imply you're smarter than people watching football?

Because if you are a miserable neckbeard with no interest or ability to perform in physical sports, you're obviously a superior intelectual? Duh.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft519
UpATreeSC 152
ProTech144
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 732
Shuttle 418
Artosis 45
HiyA 18
Dota 2
syndereN270
febbydoto17
League of Legends
C9.Mang0245
Counter-Strike
Foxcn320
Other Games
summit1g7373
Grubby2544
FrodaN1606
Beastyqt807
ToD371
Liquid`Hasu277
Maynarde81
XaKoH 69
Mew2King29
minikerr22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV44
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 30
• Hupsaiya 26
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 52
• Eskiya23 22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21067
Other Games
• imaqtpie2652
• Scarra936
• Shiphtur191
Upcoming Events
OSC
11h 59m
Shameless vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Percival
Krystianer vs TBD
Cure vs SHIN
PiGosaur Monday
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 10h
OSC
1d 11h
Big Brain Bouts
3 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.