EPTAvilo scammed viewers for donations? - Page 3
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Facts: avilo didn't reach his goal and is keeping the money, but has promised to throw a tournament. Thread locked since the matter is mostly settled. We can have another thread the next time he does something, I GUESS | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 19 2017 09:58 ReachTheSky wrote: This is nothing compared to the WDT scam ran by Smuft/Elky during the BW days. TL turned a blind eye towards that. Iirc smuft eventually donated like... 5k? To another (TL run I think) tournament to make up for it. Could be remembering things incorrectly, was a number of years ago. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On April 19 2017 08:46 Kobedoinwerk wrote: Yeah but now it seems to me as if he set a very high goal that he thought could not be hit so he could pocket the money because he knew he'd get more donations then he normally would with his fake intent. Honestly, this is the kind of retardation that makes this thread idiotic in the first place. First of all, you cannot police twitch streams. Second of all, i'll placate you and anyone else - i literally said if i did not reach the goal i'd be putting back some of the money i made in the last 30 days towards an SC2 tournament... SC2 people honestly won't be pleased until they try to drive everyone that still plays the game away from the game and the community. Been in this community since the game launched, and the amount of ridiculous hate and bullshit thrown my way is really tiring. | ||
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castleeMg
Canada787 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On April 19 2017 10:35 SCC-Faust wrote: Before you responded, it seemed like an issue that warranted discussion. After you responded, it still seems like an issue that warrants some discussion. There is no issue. It's someone that's disgruntled and trying to stir up community drama. The thread is basically just attempting to defame/slander me, all because some person in the SC2 community thinks they should decide what i do with money donated on my stream. Refer to my other posts in this thread. This thread is just basically the usual "hate avilo thread" from some disgruntled viewer or someone that thinks they can try to hurt my donation income in the future through his slander saying i scammed viewers when i have clearly not. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
The Dreamhack-specific donations should've been done through a service that can easily refund if the goal isn't met. | ||
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On April 19 2017 09:52 BronzeKnee wrote: What does Winter have to do with this? And when was he fooling his fans? Are you trying to get warned twice in one thread? Honestly, as much as I think Avilo is.... (radio edit)... we need people like him in SC2. It keeps it interesting. Nothing beats that video of Vibe versus Avilo, I was laughing so hard at the end of it. I need stuff like that. No we don´t. This guy has openly accused several pro´s of cheating and several non-pros and countless other people that stream (!) like this guy: That´s why one of Jason´s friends made the video. It really hurts people´s reputation cause there are people that actually believe this crap. Not to mention the countless insult´s he has thrown at people on twitter and the comment section on youtube under his videos, in-game and most likely on other media. Just look at the video vs Vibe. " I spit over your mom." and then even expects an answer from his opponent. While Vibe also did some things that are not cool (making fun of his lisp), why behave so immature and not be the better person? He had the chance to show it and blew it. Instead he makes it worse by showing his immaturity even more instead of behaving like a 30 year old guy. It really makes you wonder why his stream is even featured or why there hasn´t been any actions against him with all the cheat/hack accusing. In other games people would even get banned from the game. Being a bad boy is one thing and you can always do that without throwing insults etc. Being toxic is a completely different thing. If this what the OP posted is just remotely true in the slightest (banning people from chat just because he asked about the donation money) then no, we definitly need not people like that and people should avoid him. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On April 19 2017 10:46 Tresher wrote: No we don´t. This guy has openly accused several pro´s of cheating and several non-pros and countless other people that stream (!) like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE That´s why one of Jason´s friends made the video. It really hurts people´s reputation cause there are people that actually believe this crap. Not to mention the countless insult´s he has thrown at people on twitter and the comment section on youtube under his videos, in-game and most likely on other media. Just look at the video vs Vibe. " I spit over your mom." and then even expects an answer from his opponent. While Vibe also did some things that are not cool (making fun of his lisp), why behave so immature and not be the better person? He had the chance to show it and blew it. Instead he makes it worse by showing his immaturity even more instead of behaving like a 30 year old guy. It really makes you wonder why his stream is even featured or why there hasn´t been any actions against him with all the cheat/hack accusing. In other games people would even get banned from the game. Being a bad boy is one thing and you can always do that without throwing insults etc. Being toxic is a completely different thing. If this what the OP posted is just remotely true in the slightest (banning people from chat just because he asked about the donation money) then no, we definitly need not people like that and people should avoid him. And here weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee gooooooooo... Hoping a moderator will help out here. Nice obvious attempt from whoever made it to start another hate avilo bandwagon. I can't wait for more irrelevant posts about me to pop up. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
But that Vibe video, so good... | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On April 19 2017 10:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Iirc smuft eventually donated like... 5k? To another (TL run I think) tournament to make up for it. Could be remembering things incorrectly, was a number of years ago. So he bought his way back into TL's good graces? That doesn't really make up for the 20 dollar fee that everyone paid to the tournament organizers. Every single player got shafted out of money and an opportunity. | ||
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iSvPursuit
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
On April 19 2017 10:53 iSvPursuit wrote: Personally I dont see how this is a scam. Avilo set a donation goal to go to an event, goal was not met, he is not going to event. No broken promise here as far as I'm concerned. Right... except if I say I'm collecting money so I can donate 5k to the Red Cross, but I only get 4k and I say well I'm going to pocket this cause I didn't reach my goal... I am still a douche. On April 19 2017 10:37 avilo wrote: Been in this community since the game launched, and the amount of ridiculous hate and bullshit thrown my way is really tiring. Maybe you should just leave the community. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
If he doesn't end up doing that then we can have another thread about it. Thread locked. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 19 2017 10:53 ReachTheSky wrote: So he bought his way back into TL's good graces? That doesn't really make up for the 20 dollar fee that everyone paid to the tournament organizers. Every single player got shafted out of money and an opportunity. Did not mean to imply that it did, I played the WDTour ladder too. | ||
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