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[Code S] GSL Grand Finals Preview - Stats vs soO - Page 3

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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 25 2017 10:55 GMT
#41
On March 25 2017 19:23 mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed


I was told no one even reads who the author is. They just skip to predictions and trash them.


Indeed.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 25 2017 11:03 GMT
#42
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed

I could prob tell stu and maybe temp, and that's about it, and I'm probably over selling myself at that
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 25 2017 11:04 GMT
#43
On March 25 2017 19:55 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:23 mizenhauer wrote:
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed


I was told no one even reads who the author is. They just skip to predictions and trash them.


Indeed.

speaking of which where are said predictions? i need something to trash, and the actual writing doesn't deserve that
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 25 2017 11:05 GMT
#44
On March 25 2017 20:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:55 Olli wrote:
On March 25 2017 19:23 mizenhauer wrote:
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed


I was told no one even reads who the author is. They just skip to predictions and trash them.


Indeed.

speaking of which where are said predictions? i need something to trash, and the actual writing doesn't deserve that


Just wait til the balance whine in the LR.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 25 2017 11:08 GMT
#45
On March 25 2017 20:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:55 Olli wrote:
On March 25 2017 19:23 mizenhauer wrote:
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed


I was told no one even reads who the author is. They just skip to predictions and trash them.


Indeed.

speaking of which where are said predictions? i need something to trash, and the actual writing doesn't deserve that


We decided to leave them out because of the format. If you read one article and saw predictions, you'd think the article is over. Never trust people to understand how buttons work.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
March 25 2017 11:32 GMT
#46
On March 25 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
Stats vs Stats, eh? Talk about a mirror matchup.
soO should be written "어윤수"


More seriously:
Heart says soO. He deserves it, far more.
Head says Stats. He is favored, far more.

As good as his current form is, soO hasn't shown himself to be a match for Stats. Stats has made it to the finals of every WCS event this season, and looked more and more formidable each time. At this point there are precious few players who could hope to contend with Stats on even terms, and soO isn't one of them. soO lacks the raw mechanical talent of Dark and INnoVation, or the tactical insight of TY, and he does not possess any superlative to replace those gifts. Add that to the undeniable pressure soO carries in his fifth GSL finals appearance, his fifth chance to break the Kong curse he's carried for so long, and the mental as well as the physical game is stacked against him.

The only thing soO can be thankful for is that Stats is not a Terran, that at least he is not forced to play his worst matchup in the finals. If his opponent was Maru or INnoVation, his situation would be grim indeed.
But even then, Stats can say the same. After having lost both his previous finals appearances at IEMs to Terrans, he must be grateful for the chance to defeat soO and claim his own first GSL championship.

So, soO is facing quite the uphill battle here. He has a fighting chance, but it will be the fight of his life.


I would not say Soo lacks mechanical skills. Actually he has the best mechanic amongs the greatest Zergs of all time, he just usually fell short in the finals. If Stats pulls out agressive play, there will be a big chance of Soo winning, because he's well known for holding strong and macro up under pressure.
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 25 2017 11:46 GMT
#47
Man this write up is the best I can remember, super keen for soO to win, even tho stats is toss
Innovation is a PatchTerran
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 25 2017 11:46 GMT
#48
On March 25 2017 19:55 Mahanaim wrote:
Stats will show once again why he is the iron wall.

Soulkey is the (former) Iron Wall......
Faker is the GOAT!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
March 25 2017 11:54 GMT
#49
If I were betting money on this series, my money would be on soO.

Kong or not, he's demonstrated a hell of a lot more in the PvZ match up that Stats has in this tournament. Stats' success of late has revolved almost entirely around his PvT ability, that isn't true just of GSL but of his recent run at IEM as well.

We've seen soO's PvZ form of late, we have not seen Stats'. With all of the preparation he must be putting in to have beaten the kinds of Terrans he has lately, it's hard to imagine that he'd have THAT much left to take out the best macro Zerg in the game right now.

I'll take soO in 6 games.
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MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 25 2017 12:15 GMT
#50
On March 25 2017 20:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
If I were betting money on this series, my money would be on soO.

Kong or not, he's demonstrated a hell of a lot more in the PvZ match up that Stats has in this tournament. Stats' success of late has revolved almost entirely around his PvT ability, that isn't true just of GSL but of his recent run at IEM as well.

We've seen soO's PvZ form of late, we have not seen Stats'. With all of the preparation he must be putting in to have beaten the kinds of Terrans he has lately, it's hard to imagine that he'd have THAT much left to take out the best macro Zerg in the game right now.

I'll take soO in 6 games.

We saw stats vs dark recently which showed stats is solid in the matchup even if dark is in a slump
Innovation is a PatchTerran
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
March 25 2017 13:09 GMT
#51
Seems very unlikely that soO will win, but hey, meme will live on
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
March 25 2017 14:09 GMT
#52
Just so much hype.

Rooting for soO all the way, go get it champ!
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
March 25 2017 14:23 GMT
#53
can't wait to see stats's face when he loses
어윤수|이신형|이재동|이승형
Hushfieldx
Profile Joined December 2016
Belgium64 Posts
March 25 2017 15:45 GMT
#54
I think soO has the fan vote (definitely after that epic write-up). Hoping for a close series, which it will be if soO ends up breaking the curse. But Stats has seemed pretty godlike recently I can't wait. Hype!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 25 2017 15:49 GMT
#55
I think the loser of this will slump a bit regardless though.
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-25 16:31:02
March 25 2017 16:27 GMT
#56
edit - nvm
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 25 2017 16:51 GMT
#57
SKT best KT!
gg no re thx
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
March 25 2017 17:10 GMT
#58
Go SoO !

Overcome your personal barrier and defeat Stats!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-25 17:43:47
March 25 2017 17:38 GMT
#59
SoO no match for Stats? LOL. I would not disagree more. As if being 5 times in Code S finals is nothing of an achievment. Even being second soO isone of the most consistent Zerg players out there. Even when Zerg is underrepresented in Korea sc2 scene against all odds he is in another finals beating TY and sOs and many more great players. I would say this finals will be even as hell.

soO has spectacular consistency to be in five GSL finals, yes. To get to this one he has displayed amazing skill, tenacity, and talent. soO is most certainly among the top players in the world. All this is true.

But Stats was in the finals of IEM Gyeonggi. Of IEM Katowice. His current form is close to unstoppable. He is arguably the best player in the world. And while soO is great, Stats is greater.

I very much hope that soO wins. I am rooting for soO, not Stats. But there's no denying that Stats is the favorite going into the finals.

I would not say Soo lacks mechanical skills. Actually he has the best mechanic amongs the greatest Zergs of all time, he just usually fell short in the finals. If Stats pulls out agressive play, there will be a big chance of Soo winning, because he's well known for holding strong and macro up under pressure.

Neither am I. soO has great mechanics, no doubt about that at all. What I am saying is that his mechanics are not as good as those of Dark, the greatest macro Zerg, or INnoVation, the strongest mechanical player.

I agree that soO has a better chance if Stats is aggressive, because lategame PvZ is Protoss-favored and Stats has shown his skill in lategame multiple times against Dark, Nerchio, etc.
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Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
March 25 2017 17:56 GMT
#60
It's a shame one of them has to lose again, but at least the other is guaranteed to finally win! I think soO will take it, and I hope he does. He needs it more.
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