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[Code S] GSL Grand Finals Preview - Stats vs soO - Page 2

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 24 2017 21:18 GMT
#21
Great preview enjoyed both very much!
I hope soO will win, it would be a way cooler storyline and he also really deserves it. Ofc Stats deserves it as well but you guys know what i mean :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
March 24 2017 23:10 GMT
#22
thanks for the preview. come on soOjwa! i want to see yoou kissing that trophy
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 23:26:44
March 24 2017 23:26 GMT
#23
I wouldn't be surprised if soO retires after this finals if he loses. After he lost his 4th finals he seemed completely devastated and fell in to a slump. I can't imagine what would happen if he loses a 5th.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 24 2017 23:28 GMT
#24
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he retired after Blizzcon instead, if he lost this GSL.

Although I don't think the Koreans care too much for it - both Polt and Hydra retired before Blizzcon.
kiss kiss fall in love
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 25 2017 00:53 GMT
#25
On March 25 2017 08:28 intotheheart wrote:
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he retired after Blizzcon instead, if he lost this GSL.

Although I don't think the Koreans care too much for it - both Polt and Hydra retired before Blizzcon.


I think it's more that Hydra had a wedding and Polt had military.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 25 2017 02:02 GMT
#26
I want Stats to win, but seeing soO finally achieve glory would be so sweet!
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
March 25 2017 02:40 GMT
#27
I hope soO can shrug the weight off his shoulders and just play to the level we all know he's capable of. I watched live the crushing defeat Zest handed soO in that GSL finals so long ago. It's been a long road, but if anyone deserves to hold that trophy, it's soO. We're in your corner soO. Feed off of our energy.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 25 2017 02:48 GMT
#28
On March 25 2017 09:53 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 08:28 intotheheart wrote:
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he retired after Blizzcon instead, if he lost this GSL.

Although I don't think the Koreans care too much for it - both Polt and Hydra retired before Blizzcon.


I think it's more that Hydra had a wedding and Polt had military.

Oh shit, you're right.
kiss kiss fall in love
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
March 25 2017 04:08 GMT
#29
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 25 2017 04:09 GMT
#30
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
March 25 2017 04:48 GMT
#31
Three cheers for our Zerg friend.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 25 2017 04:58 GMT
#32
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

Good question actually. I think soO is zealously but hey it's 50:50 anyway ^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
March 25 2017 05:31 GMT
#33
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong
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A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
March 25 2017 06:12 GMT
#34
Stats is overrated. He is a protoss after all and it is easier for protoss players to perform well because current state of balance.


I hope SoO can win though. Very good and extremely talented player
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 25 2017 09:19 GMT
#35
please please please win soo for everyone who has ever struggled and finally made it, you would give us hope. worst thing that would happen is if dirty protoss user stats wins. who cares about him. his writeup did nothing for me, his storyline is not compelling at all. he is favored to win and if he does, no doubt he will fall off like dear did and all those other generic protoss players who just blur together and have no differentiating characteristics. soo, there is a man who deserves it.
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
March 25 2017 09:54 GMT
#36
On March 25 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
Stats vs Stats, eh? Talk about a mirror matchup.
soO should be written "어윤수"


More seriously:
Heart says soO. He deserves it, far more.
Head says Stats. He is favored, far more.

As good as his current form is, soO hasn't shown himself to be a match for Stats. Stats has made it to the finals of every WCS event this season, and looked more and more formidable each time. At this point there are precious few players who could hope to contend with Stats on even terms, and soO isn't one of them. soO lacks the raw mechanical talent of Dark and INnoVation, or the tactical insight of TY, and he does not possess any superlative to replace those gifts. Add that to the undeniable pressure soO carries in his fifth GSL finals appearance, his fifth chance to break the Kong curse he's carried for so long, and the mental as well as the physical game is stacked against him.

The only thing soO can be thankful for is that Stats is not a Terran, that at least he is not forced to play his worst matchup in the finals. If his opponent was Maru or INnoVation, his situation would be grim indeed.
But even then, Stats can say the same. After having lost both his previous finals appearances at IEMs to Terrans, he must be grateful for the chance to defeat soO and claim his own first GSL championship.

So, soO is facing quite the uphill battle here. He has a fighting chance, but it will be the fight of his life.


SoO no match for Stats? LOL. I would not disagree more. As if being 5 times in Code S finals is nothing of an achievment. Even being second soO isone of the most consistent Zerg players out there. Even when Zerg is underrepresented in Korea sc2 scene against all odds he is in another finals beating TY and sOs and many more great players. I would say this finals will be even as hell.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 25 2017 09:57 GMT
#37
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1914 Posts
March 25 2017 10:23 GMT
#38
On March 25 2017 18:57 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 14:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:09 munch wrote:
On March 25 2017 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Not sure whats better, the write-up or the apparent return of zealously


I wonder how many people can actually tell who wrote which piece

I'd instantly assume Stats is Olli and soO is Zeal because race, but I could be wrong


You'd be right, but sometimes I wonder what people would think if we just removed all writer credits. Given that I've read literally everything we've put out for the past 3 years, plus a whole load I read before I started writing, I think that I can instantly tell who wrote what without the nametag, but it'd be interesting to see if people actually enjoyed the writing more than loving their faves praised / hating them being bashed


I was told no one even reads who the author is. They just skip to predictions and trash them.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 25 2017 10:40 GMT
#39
soO, it's time to (re)make history
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 25 2017 10:55 GMT
#40
Stats will show once again why he is the iron wall.
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