EPTTY wins IEM Katowice - Day 6 Recap - Page 2
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sneakyfox
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:19 Olli wrote: He tried three times I believe, died to the same build twice. Tank/liberator pushes just wreck it so hard that nobody except Stats even tries. he died to this build just because it's new, first times 16 marines drop in tvz was so good but now only byun play it and not so often too, when inno was playing his 2 tank stim build in tvp first times it was strong too but even neeb can adapt to this very good now. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:25 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote: he died to this build just because it's new, first times 16 marines drop in tvz was so good but now only byun play it and not so often too, when inno was playing his 2 tank stim build in tvp first times it was strong too but even neeb can adapt to this very good now. It's not new, it's the reason why no protoss opens robo anymore. I've literally just heard this from pros and experienced it on ladder about a hundred times. | ||
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sneakyfox
8218 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:20 Olli wrote: And yet, when winrates were even across the board, all these Terrans weren't so hot. There might just be a connection between that and the ~40% PvT winrate we've had for a while. But hey, I'm just connecting the dots here. Well that rate is from before liberator nerf. And Stats handedly defeated ByuN yesterday, and he was not playing poorly. TY just played incredibly well today, absolutely hit the zone. It's a big shame to take that away like that. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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Shrinkzxo
Dotoland672 Posts
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:05 Olli wrote: I loved when they talked about how many great Terrans Korea produces, all of whom were nowhere near as good just a while ago. TY/Maru (in proleague)/ByuN have been better than most other players for a long time tho. | ||
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:33 Olli wrote: It's not new, it's the reason why no protoss opens robo anymore. I've literally just heard this from pros and experienced it on ladder about a hundred times. I remember tough times against early tank pushes in pvt when I was playing random, but with a proper scout, without fast 3rd i'm sure there is a way to counter this even with robo, next time stats will show the way, and from what pros you've heard this, don't say mana please. | ||
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Elentos
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:45 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote: I remember tough times against early tank pushes in pvt when I was playing random, but with a proper scout, without fast 3rd i'm sure there is a way to counter this even with robo, next time stats will show the way, and from what pros you've heard this, don't say mana please. Showtime and Harstem, who had it confirmed by Stats and Zest as well. But hey, you know better. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:05 Olli wrote: Showtime and Harstem, who had it confirmed by Stats and Zest as well. But hey, you know better. They're just two of the best foriegners and two of the best koreans, what would they know? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:05 Olli wrote: I loved when they talked about how many great Terrans Korea produces, all of whom were nowhere near as good just a while ago. Maybe terran was grossly underpowered last year, and now it's actually balanced the terrans are too good?  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:06 stuchiu wrote: They're just two of the best foriegners and two of the best koreans, what would they know? Rain said terran is literally broodlord infestor, yes what would biased pros ever know  Sry but this "hey some pros said it" argument simply doesn't work even if it could be true in a specific instance. Strategies change, solutions change. Nobody knows if there is a legit counter even if they atm think there is none. With that being said, yes i also think it looks very strong. I wonder if you could do anything with warp prism micro there though? Also something i talked about in the LR thread: I wonder if it would be a good idea to make siege mode an upgrade again now that the tank is strong. Obviously it's balanced around it not being there atm in some instances, so who knows | ||
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sneakyfox
8218 Posts
ByuN won two major tournaments last year and looks weaker if anything post-patch. Maru is pretty much the same; has his great games but can't really get anything done. So, the difference with the great terrans is Innovation who according to himself is really practicing now instead of playing LoL. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
Made it even better being able to watch my maps Abyssal & Honorgrounds produce some pretty awesome games. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Then a month or two later it is solved. Not saying this will happen with Robo openings necessarily, but never say never. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:42 SidianTheBard wrote: Such a great tournament with a ton of great games. Probably the most sc2 I've watched in a long time. I was pretty much glued to my monitor most of the weekend. I do enjoy that the games start so early EST time as well so even on the "late" days, the games still end by 4 or 5pm EST so I can still do things later in the night if I want. Made it even better being able to watch my maps Abyssal & Honorgrounds produce some pretty awesome games. The final game on Abyssal was soooooo good, thank you for making that map^^ | ||
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-KG-
Denmark1219 Posts
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:11 Fango wrote: Maybe terran was grossly underpowered last year, and now it's actually balanced the terrans are too good? no way, classic has switched to protoss because he's so badass and just wanted to make his road to the gsl final even tougher. | ||
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