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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
February 01 2017 16:31 GMT
#41
WAIT WTF?! HOW DID THIS GROUP B EVEN HAPPEN?!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
February 01 2017 16:35 GMT
#42
group B - group of death
User was warned for this post
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 01 2017 16:38 GMT
#43
sOs gets to practice nothing but PvT, so that's good for him, but since PvT seems to be the most imbalanced match up at the moment (we'll see how the liberator nerf changes that), that's less advantageous than it could be.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
February 01 2017 16:59 GMT
#44
press B for SKT
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 01 2017 17:28 GMT
#45
On February 02 2017 01:31 Seeker wrote:
WAIT WTF?! HOW DID THIS GROUP B EVEN HAPPEN?!


Pride or spite. Take your pick.
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
February 01 2017 17:35 GMT
#46
Bittersweet SKT reunion
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
February 01 2017 17:38 GMT
#47
Dark said he wanted to make his group all about family. He got his ohana.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
February 01 2017 17:39 GMT
#48
Nice! We are guaranteed 2 SKT members for ro8!!! Woo!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 17:51:24
February 01 2017 17:47 GMT
#49
On February 02 2017 00:44 Philozovic wrote:
You are not asking the right question !

Poll: Which one is harder

Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) (63)
 
58%

Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO) (45)
 
42%

108 total votes

Your vote: Which one is harder

(Vote): Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life)
(Vote): Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO)




You guys serious voting for 2017 over 2013?

The 2013 group B had the best Protoss of the time, the best Zerg and the two best Terrans.

Classic being in the 2017 group brings it down.

==

A: ByuL, aLive
B: Bogus, soO
C: herO, Leenock
D: Maru, sOs

Bogus might be in the clear this season unless herO, Maru, or ByuL can stop him.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 17:53:30
February 01 2017 17:50 GMT
#50
On February 02 2017 01:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
OMG group B, SKT didn't die for this...

does anyone have an order of picks btw? I'd like to see who picked who but I don't have the time to watch the whole VOD

1st round

(T)TY --> (T)aLive
(P)sOs --> (T)KeeN
(P)herO --> (P)Trap
(Z)Dark --> (P)Classic

2nd round

(T)KeeN --> (T)Bunny
(P)Trap --> (Z)Leenock
(P)Classic --> (T)Ryung
(T)aLive --> (Z)ByuL

final round

((T)TY: "If ByuL doesn't do as I say (and pick (P)Stats or (Z)soO) I'll put him into another group")
(Z)ByuL --> (P)Stats
(T)Ryung --> (Z)soO
(Z)Leenock --> (T)INnoVation
(T)Bunny has to take (T)Maru

TY gets 1 swap between any two players. Stats wants to get swapped with someone from group C or D to make it easier for both of them, but TY decides to swap Ryung and INnoVation instead, finalizing the group of death in Group B.
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killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
February 01 2017 17:54 GMT
#51
On February 02 2017 02:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 00:44 Philozovic wrote:
You are not asking the right question !

Poll: Which one is harder

Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) (63)
 
58%

Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO) (45)
 
42%

108 total votes

Your vote: Which one is harder

(Vote): Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life)
(Vote): Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO)




You guys serious voting for 2017 over 2013?

The 2013 group B had the best Protoss of the time, the best Zerg and the two best Terrans.

Classic being in the 2017 group brings it down.


SC2 Flash < BW Flash - in SC2 he was nowhere near best terrans
Parting best Protoss of all time? seriously?

it is at worst close call but certainly not so onesided as you try to suggest
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 18:03:30
February 01 2017 17:55 GMT
#52
On February 02 2017 02:54 killerm12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 02:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 02 2017 00:44 Philozovic wrote:
You are not asking the right question !

Poll: Which one is harder

Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) (63)
 
58%

Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO) (45)
 
42%

108 total votes

Your vote: Which one is harder

(Vote): Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life)
(Vote): Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO)




You guys serious voting for 2017 over 2013?

The 2013 group B had the best Protoss of the time, the best Zerg and the two best Terrans.

Classic being in the 2017 group brings it down.


SC2 Flash < BW Flash - in SC2 he was nowhere near best terrans
Parting best Protoss of all time? seriously?

it is at worst close call but certainly not so onesided as you try to suggest

At the time Flash was the 2nd best Terran. And he said "of the time" (as in for those months in 2013), not "of all time", regarding PartinG.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 01 2017 18:01 GMT
#53
Only group C is a bit lacking. Others are great.

Prediction:
A) (T)TY (T)aLive
B) (T)INnoVation (Z)soO
C) (P)herO[jOin] (T)Ryung
D) (P)sOs (T)KeeN
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 01 2017 18:05 GMT
#54
Interesting groups. Group B is ridiculous tbh. I would still think that the Life, Parting, Flash and Innovation group was harder though tbh
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 18:12:09
February 01 2017 18:11 GMT
#55
Prediction time,

A: TY, aLive
B: Dark, INnoVation
C: herO, Ryung
D: Maru, Bunny

I really don't know about group A so I just went with my Terran bias. And I dont think sOs can beat the terrans in his current form.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 18:33:15
February 01 2017 18:22 GMT
#56
Group B is a formidable Group of Death, and the strongest we've had in a couple years.
But there's no way it matches up to the hype of 2013.

Inno and Dark are on top of the world, but as good as Classic and soO are, they're pretty outclassed here. Classic complained in an interview about how much he loses against Dark, and soO went 2-9 against Inno recently in addition to having been notably defeated twice by him in the finals (GSL and IEM respectively).

Compared to 2013, when it was actually the four best players in the world. Soulkey was arguably better, but that's a stretch.
The group of Parting, Life, Inno and Flash has never been equaled before or since.


PartinG and Flash retired, Life isn't around anymore, but INnoVation, for all his ups and downs, is once again the best around four years later. Talk about tenacity.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 01 2017 18:25 GMT
#57
On February 02 2017 01:28 StarscreamG1 wrote:
OMG, did alive got into R16?? I just saw his first pair of games and he was playing so bad..

Yeah he did! :O Played some solid games towards the end.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 01 2017 18:28 GMT
#58
Anyone who voted C or D should lose their voting privileges.

Also 2013 group comfortably better.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 01 2017 18:30 GMT
#59
Coming back to the present, we can look at their recent results for predictions:
Inno can beat Dark, Classic, and soO
Dark can beat Inno and Classic
Classic can beat soO
soO can beat Dark

So we get Inno and Dark in the winner's match, which is pretty much a coinflip. If Dark loses, he might get knocked out by soO, but for that to happen soO has to beat Classic, which is a long shot. If Inno loses I doubt either Classic or soO can take him out.

Inno and Dark to advance.

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 01 2017 18:34 GMT
#60
On February 02 2017 03:22 pvsnp wrote:
Group B is a formidable Group of Death, and the strongest we've had in a couple years.
But there's no way it matches up to the hype of 2013.

Inno and Dark are on top of the world, but as good as Classic and soO are, they're pretty outclassed here. Classic complained in an interview about how much he loses against Dark, and soO went 2-9 against Inno recently in addition to having been notably defeated twice by him in the finals (GSL and IEM respectively).

Compared to 2013, when it was actually the four best players in the world. Soulkey was arguably better, but that's a stretch.
The group of Parting, Life, Inno and Flash has never been equaled before or since.


At least not in sc2, there was (were?) some really hard group in bw, consisting of Jaedong, Bisu, Flash and Sea
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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