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I would say something, but Jessica is the 4 chan of sc2. Don't say shit about her.
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the amount of hate on jessica is unbelieveable.
boxer and her together build one of the most iconic and successful ESF team ever.
If it meant a not-so-likeable personality then so be it.
Maybe it does take a person like her to organise and manage this level of a team.
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On August 31 2016 02:54 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 02:46 RKC wrote:
Sustainable or not, Slayers has managed to groom sustainable talents - Dark, Taeja, Ryung, and even MMA (to a lesser extent - he shone brightly, but faded fast). Arguably the best ESL clan in terms of talent production?
I never quite followed the scandal and blow-up. Are any ex-Slayers players still in good terms with Boxer and Jessica? Or are they all like prodigal sons now? Dark only really became good when he got in SKT, also what do you mean with ESL clan?
I think he means ESF, the org that handled SC2 in korea before Kespa switched to SC2.
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On August 31 2016 08:47 blamekilly wrote:
The sponsorship didn't kill SlayerS, the selfish players did. MMA thought Jessica and Boxer was taking his prize money. He also owed some money to his personal coach and when the coach asked him about the money, he threw an Nvidia card that he won from an online tournament at the coach.
what? for real? personally, I think the jessica hate is ridiculous. No one is saying she's not partially responsible for some of what went down especially if she has a controlling nature (based on other comments) but some of the comments I've read make it seem like all the players were goody-two shoes or something which I doubt.
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On August 31 2016 08:47 blamekilly wrote:
The sponsorship didn't kill SlayerS, the selfish players did. MMA thought Jessica and Boxer was taking his prize money. He also owed some money to his personal coach and when the coach asked him about the money, he threw an Nvidia card that he won from an online tournament at the coach.
The thing is that Ryu Won never corroborated this (he decided to stay entirely away from the drama), but later evidence shows he is still good friends with MMA.
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Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round.
But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher.
Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy?
Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. 
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so that's why she acted like a bitchy team owner
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On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart.
Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help.
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On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help.
Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else?
It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic!
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On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic!
Movie can be called:
"I came in second" loll
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On August 31 2016 14:53 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic! Movie can be called: "I came in second" loll
Ouch lol
I can foresee many puns about dongs...
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On August 31 2016 08:47 blamekilly wrote:
The sponsorship didn't kill SlayerS, the selfish players did. MMA thought Jessica and Boxer was taking his prize money. He also owed some money to his personal coach and when the coach asked him about the money, he threw an Nvidia card that he won from an online tournament at the coach.
MMA seems like such a nice guy. hard to imagine this happening 
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On August 31 2016 20:16 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 08:47 blamekilly wrote:
The sponsorship didn't kill SlayerS, the selfish players did. MMA thought Jessica and Boxer was taking his prize money. He also owed some money to his personal coach and when the coach asked him about the money, he threw an Nvidia card that he won from an online tournament at the coach. MMA seems like such a nice guy. hard to imagine this happening
The SlayerS drama is all he-said, she-said. While I'm sure tempered flared and relationships were strained, hard to verify any specific events. A lot of rumors going around and many people have agendas - best to ignore. After all, this took place 4 years ago
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On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic!
herO has the cute factor going for him. In the archetype of the boy band, herO would be casted as the 'Cute One' often to balance the look of the band against the 'Bad Boy' archetype. Zest might be a good cast for the 'Bad Boy'.
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On September 01 2016 00:30 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic! herO has the cute factor going for him. In the archetype of the boy band, herO would be casted as the 'Cute One' often to balance the look of the band against the 'Bad Boy' archetype. Zest might be a good cast for the 'Bad Boy'.
I wish they still did frequent photo-shoots since the Nada's Body thread has been a bit bare of new material as of late
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On September 01 2016 01:01 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 00:30 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic! herO has the cute factor going for him. In the archetype of the boy band, herO would be casted as the 'Cute One' often to balance the look of the band against the 'Bad Boy' archetype. Zest might be a good cast for the 'Bad Boy'. I wish they still did frequent photo-shoots since the Nada's Body thread has been a bit bare of new material as of late
Yeah seriously. Best thread on TL.
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Saying you spend money on something doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. If you spend $500k on a team maybe you made 600k and made a net gain of 100k. Maybe you spent 500k and made 400k so your net loss is 100k.
Riot still insists that they run LCS at a loss even though it's clearly a way to get their game some exposure. Surely Jessica didn't just pour 500k down the drain. Can't imagine just flat out lost all of his 250k on Axiom either. Maybe... but hell that would suck. I know that Axiom operated at a loss but I hope they managed to get some of their money back.
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Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else?
It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic!
You actually made a mistake fucked up by leaving out Reach, he is the manliest man that that comes up in my head when I think of everyone I've seen from esports.
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On September 01 2016 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 01:01 eviltomahawk wrote:On September 01 2016 00:30 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic! herO has the cute factor going for him. In the archetype of the boy band, herO would be casted as the 'Cute One' often to balance the look of the band against the 'Bad Boy' archetype. Zest might be a good cast for the 'Bad Boy'. I wish they still did frequent photo-shoots since the Nada's Body thread has been a bit bare of new material as of late Yeah seriously. Best thread on TL.
You do know Nada isn't a white girl right?
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On September 01 2016 01:26 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:On September 01 2016 01:01 eviltomahawk wrote:On September 01 2016 00:30 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On August 31 2016 14:48 RKC wrote:On August 31 2016 14:29 Phredxor wrote:On August 31 2016 13:21 RKC wrote:Okay, so from what I'm hearing, and what most people are generally agreeing - Jessica can be quite a high-strung high-maintenance drama queen. I won't judge whether that's done more harm than the good she has done all round. But if that is true, what intrigues me then is how in the world she fell for Boxer and married him? I understand that Koreans do accord pro-gamers with more respect and love than most other communities in the world. But I doubt it's at the same level of real-life sportsmen like Park Ji-Sung (a footballer who married a famous TV show host in a high-profile celeb coupling). Sorry, I'm not trying to look down on Boxer here, but there does seem to be a gulf of social class between Jessica and him. Pro-gamers are not the most sociable lot, and usually come from humble backgrounds. Jessica is a modern-day aristocrat. I can imagine her family and friends raising eyebrows. Yes, it's almost like Prince William marrying Kate Middleton. Except that in Asian cultures, breaking social barriers is even tougher. Am I missing something about Korean culture? Am I being too harsh and judgy? Anyway, I really feel happy for Boxer! As a fellow geek, stories like this warms my heart. Have you seen how handsome Boxer is? That would help. Fair enough. There should be a PR on hottest BW/SC2 players. Boxer, Bisu, Zest, herO... who else? It would be funny if Yellow was also chasing Jessica and lost out. That would make such an epic fan-fic! herO has the cute factor going for him. In the archetype of the boy band, herO would be casted as the 'Cute One' often to balance the look of the band against the 'Bad Boy' archetype. Zest might be a good cast for the 'Bad Boy'. I wish they still did frequent photo-shoots since the Nada's Body thread has been a bit bare of new material as of late Yeah seriously. Best thread on TL. You do know Nada isn't a white girl right?
A man can dream.
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