• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:28
CEST 14:28
KST 21:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7088 users

SPL Round 3 Playoffs: Bronze Chal. Match starters - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
26 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 15 2016 16:41 GMT
#21
On July 15 2016 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2016 22:39 megatroneo wrote:
CJ is fucked. Freecs is deep enough to have at least 2 guys (including Patience) prepped with herO snipes.

The problem with snipe builds is they don't give the player an opportunity to play the late game if the build fails. herO has a lot of defensive tools in the protoss arsenal to avoid snipes.

He has nothing the Protoss players on Afreeca don't have

Besides, I doubt herO will just sit back and defend every game. It's not what he does.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 15 2016 17:07 GMT
#22
On July 16 2016 01:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2016 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 15 2016 22:39 megatroneo wrote:
CJ is fucked. Freecs is deep enough to have at least 2 guys (including Patience) prepped with herO snipes.

The problem with snipe builds is they don't give the player an opportunity to play the late game if the build fails. herO has a lot of defensive tools in the protoss arsenal to avoid snipes.

He has nothing the Protoss players on Afreeca don't have

Besides, I doubt herO will just sit back and defend every game. It's not what he does.

Yea herO likes stalkers. So patience will send them back in time to 2010, then race switch to terran and spam marauders and pray...seems like a 10/10 strat to me.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
July 15 2016 19:58 GMT
#23
Perhaps they figured their other players would do better with specific snipe builds rather than likely starting off with a loss and having to catch up. It's pretty hard to snipe hero.
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 20:57:06
July 15 2016 20:56 GMT
#24
My theory is that CJ has somehow predicted exactly what afreeca is gonna do, and has snipe maps for everything, hero wins the first map then gets sniped, cj snipes the sniper, cj loses, cj snipes etc.. EZ PZ 4-3 win CJ
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 15 2016 21:05 GMT
#25
On July 16 2016 04:58 zealotstim wrote:
Perhaps they figured their other players would do better with specific snipe builds rather than likely starting off with a loss and having to catch up. It's pretty hard to snipe hero.

Eh herO gets sniped pretty regularly in all-kill format. Pretty sure he's the best Proleague player without any 3-kills and all-kills.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
July 15 2016 22:07 GMT
#26
i dont got y CJ always starts with herO. He has to get multiple kills. Now Afreeca can prepare a snipe build on King Sejong (even have a decent shot with patience) - and KKS has a lot of potential for uncommon. you cant give them better odds.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
July 15 2016 22:11 GMT
#27
yeah why dont start with MC he is pretty tricky and has a huge amount of different possible builds and styles so he is very hard to snipe
TY my boy gogo
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
11:00
Monthly #1 - Day 1
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 1574
CranKy Ducklings SOOP53
Rex27
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko392
Rex 27
EnDerr 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2135
Horang2 1389
Hyuk 800
firebathero 677
EffOrt 480
Snow 392
Mini 322
Larva 274
Light 244
Rush 163
[ Show more ]
Last 131
Zeus 112
ZerO 109
Pusan 101
Hm[arnc] 73
Mong 58
hero 57
Sharp 56
Killer 45
ToSsGirL 34
sSak 27
sorry 14
Sacsri 12
JulyZerg 8
Icarus 4
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc2843
Dendi1055
Counter-Strike
byalli1120
markeloff514
zeus163
edward29
Other Games
singsing1836
olofmeister903
B2W.Neo836
DeMusliM283
Pyrionflax233
hiko171
Sick137
Mew2King109
QueenE40
ArmadaUGS36
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick819
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1601
Upcoming Events
OSC
9h 32m
Replay Cast
11h 32m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
22h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
GSL
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.