• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:36
CET 20:36
KST 04:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30
Tourneys
SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Cwal.gg not working
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12332 users

SPL Round 3 Playoffs: Bronze Chal. Match starters - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
26 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 15 2016 16:41 GMT
#21
On July 15 2016 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2016 22:39 megatroneo wrote:
CJ is fucked. Freecs is deep enough to have at least 2 guys (including Patience) prepped with herO snipes.

The problem with snipe builds is they don't give the player an opportunity to play the late game if the build fails. herO has a lot of defensive tools in the protoss arsenal to avoid snipes.

He has nothing the Protoss players on Afreeca don't have

Besides, I doubt herO will just sit back and defend every game. It's not what he does.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 15 2016 17:07 GMT
#22
On July 16 2016 01:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2016 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 15 2016 22:39 megatroneo wrote:
CJ is fucked. Freecs is deep enough to have at least 2 guys (including Patience) prepped with herO snipes.

The problem with snipe builds is they don't give the player an opportunity to play the late game if the build fails. herO has a lot of defensive tools in the protoss arsenal to avoid snipes.

He has nothing the Protoss players on Afreeca don't have

Besides, I doubt herO will just sit back and defend every game. It's not what he does.

Yea herO likes stalkers. So patience will send them back in time to 2010, then race switch to terran and spam marauders and pray...seems like a 10/10 strat to me.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
July 15 2016 19:58 GMT
#23
Perhaps they figured their other players would do better with specific snipe builds rather than likely starting off with a loss and having to catch up. It's pretty hard to snipe hero.
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 20:57:06
July 15 2016 20:56 GMT
#24
My theory is that CJ has somehow predicted exactly what afreeca is gonna do, and has snipe maps for everything, hero wins the first map then gets sniped, cj snipes the sniper, cj loses, cj snipes etc.. EZ PZ 4-3 win CJ
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 15 2016 21:05 GMT
#25
On July 16 2016 04:58 zealotstim wrote:
Perhaps they figured their other players would do better with specific snipe builds rather than likely starting off with a loss and having to catch up. It's pretty hard to snipe hero.

Eh herO gets sniped pretty regularly in all-kill format. Pretty sure he's the best Proleague player without any 3-kills and all-kills.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
July 15 2016 22:07 GMT
#26
i dont got y CJ always starts with herO. He has to get multiple kills. Now Afreeca can prepare a snipe build on King Sejong (even have a decent shot with patience) - and KKS has a lot of potential for uncommon. you cant give them better odds.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
July 15 2016 22:11 GMT
#27
yeah why dont start with MC he is pretty tricky and has a huge amount of different possible builds and styles so he is very hard to snipe
TY my boy gogo
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
02:00
#69
TaKeTV 405
TKL 380
SteadfastSC369
ZombieGrub97
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 522
TKL 380
SteadfastSC 369
mouzHeroMarine 190
ZombieGrub97
EmSc Tv 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 365
Stork 69
sSak 40
ProTech33
Barracks 28
910 15
soO 11
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2729
gobbtv211
jkaem157
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3180
Trikslyr68
Other Games
tarik_tv6192
FrodaN1226
byalli325
Liquid`Hasu183
ArmadaUGS138
B2W.Neo103
NeuroSwarm49
UpATreeSC44
Railgan31
Chillindude19
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL71
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 19
EmSc2Tv 19
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 42
• Reevou 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3017
Other Games
• imaqtpie1024
• Shiphtur636
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 25m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 25m
WardiTV Invitational
16h 25m
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
1d 3h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
INu's Battles
1d 16h
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
Ultimate Battle
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-06
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.