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Canada16217 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:22 Incognoto wrote:
Pray tell me how you're supposed to quit smoking without not lighting cigarrettes?
The person doing the heavy lifting when it comes to stopping addiction at all is always the person who is addicted in the first place. They should have the common sense to know that it's an issue and go out of their way to seek help when they need it. The same thing applies to depression or any other addiction.
Don't blame your doctor because you have cancer because you smoke, don't blame KeSPA because Life possibly gambled away his earnings.
Don't blame anyone because you're too fucking stupid to know not to start drugs or gambling.
Do go out of your way to seek help to break an addiction.
Do NOT blame others because you have an addiction.
Either way this is off topic and irrelevant to the topic at hand. Would be better to remain on topic.
It's not just about common sense, it's a mental health issue, if it was so easy to stop people would.
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On April 21 2016 17:29 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 16:45 deacon.frost wrote:On April 21 2016 16:41 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:40 deacon.frost wrote:On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income. Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid? I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it. Do you feel ok about point shaving, then? What is point shaving? Point shaving is trying to reduce your winning margin in games with a point spread. It's most commonly done in basketball because of the high scores. Basically, a team that's favored to win by 20 will, late in the game if they're guaranteed to win, stop playing as hard and try to win by less than 20.
Why?
@Novemberstorm I'm done discussing that topic, thanks.
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On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will.
Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:35 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will. Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago?
pretty sure this has been an open secret for a long time
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On April 21 2016 17:01 Incognoto wrote:
I'm pretty bummed out, can hardly begin to imagine what some people are thinking at this point, especially guys like Zealously.
Can't even imagine to begin how I'd feel like right now if it were Maru. Pretty betrayed, I guess.
It's awful. Life was my favorite progamer, seeing him play would always bring this extra level of excitement. I haven't had much hope that he's innocent since the first accusations and the Korean scene became bland to me all of a sudden. There are other players I like but it has always been Life, then the rest. I'm actually surprised it hit me so hard but it did.
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On April 21 2016 17:36 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:35 Caihead wrote:On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will. Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago? pretty sure this has been an open secret for a long time
I've literally never seen the word "Life" and "gambling" in the same sentence on this site and I've been around for a while.
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Okay, that puts the nail in the coffin for me, finally. I'm not even mad or angry. Be it Prime fixing, Life arrested, WCS changes, LotV as a game that I lost grip on - it's still speculative, I know, but this does not look like Life is guilty. I've been a Life fan, Life was the one inspiring me to play zerg, I cheered for this prodigy over and over again.
I have devoted whole days and weeks to this game. I would spend the whole night awake to be able to watch GSL finals. I'd tryhard to become masters again back in HotS, although I never managed to do it after WoL again. I loved the campaign, I loved everything about this game.
But yeah, that's it. I had my good times, my bad times, I've been constructive (sometimes), I've been toxic (more often ever since WCS changes came), I've had my great discussions and my sick fights. I think it's time to delete my account.
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Canada16217 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:41 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:36 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:35 Caihead wrote:On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will. Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago? pretty sure this has been an open secret for a long time I've literally never seen the word "Life" and "gambling" in the same sentence on this site and I've been around for a while.
I've seen it swirled around in chats a bit, no idea how bad it was.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account.
we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time
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so it is about Life and Bbyong? or Life and? :-(
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On April 21 2016 17:45 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account. we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time
Don't do it Boxerfred! Seriously don't. Just take a break and come back later.
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On April 21 2016 17:41 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:36 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:35 Caihead wrote:On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will. Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago? pretty sure this has been an open secret for a long time I've literally never seen the word "Life" and "gambling" in the same sentence on this site and I've been around for a while.
It was mentioned several times in the Life match fixing thread at least.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:49 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:45 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account. we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time Don't do it Boxerfred! Seriously don't. Just take a break and come back later.
He asked for a ban and I obliged, but he can come back once he settles down.
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United States11390 Posts
On April 21 2016 17:41 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:36 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:35 Caihead wrote:On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will. Why am I hearing about Life's gambling issues now and not years ago? pretty sure this has been an open secret for a long time I've literally never seen the word "Life" and "gambling" in the same sentence on this site and I've been around for a while.
It's been around and said a bunch.
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On April 21 2016 17:49 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:45 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account. we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time Don't do it Boxerfred! Seriously don't. Just take a break and come back later.
yeah I know leaving is the easy thing to do but in those rough times we need to stay strong and united
depressed as well by the news, but I still believe SC2 will know good days
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To people saying it's Kespa / Blizzard's fault for not compensating the players well enough:
Raising monetary compensation isn't always going to have a directly positive impact. If you gave a financially irresponsible person even more money it can have a negative effect (which I'm being told Life apparently was). And if there was more money being pumped into an industry that just means the auxiliary (and illegal) industries around it gets more cash flow too. Often when you get to the higher range of compensation it actually has a directly corrupting influence to put that much money into the hands of athletes and promotes frivolous cultures. The examples in sports entertainment athletes and organizations are numerous.
Unless the argument is that the players are being paid starvation or poverty wages inadequate of comparable standards of living to their peers I don't feel like this argument holds any water.
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On April 21 2016 17:49 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:49 Incognoto wrote:On April 21 2016 17:45 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account. we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time Don't do it Boxerfred! Seriously don't. Just take a break and come back later. He asked for a ban and I obliged, but he can come back once he settles down.
Please delete "Wrath" account so I can request a name change for it 
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On April 21 2016 17:49 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:49 Incognoto wrote:On April 21 2016 17:45 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 17:42 boxerfred wrote:
I think it's time to delete my account. we aren't gonna delete your account (it's too big a headache) but you can request a perm ban any time Don't do it Boxerfred! Seriously don't. Just take a break and come back later. He asked for a ban and I obliged, but he can come back once he settles down.
RIP T_T
Boxerfred, I've always liked you for your strong stance on WCS. I'm hoping you'll be back.
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Anyway am I the only one who want at least a Protoss to be caught in match fixing? Just one...
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with the SC2 scene beeing what itz currently is i totally understand the reasons behind their actions..
also, f**k those kespa **zi* and bring back Life..
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