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Clearing up the Harstem replay situation

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SiorasSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
23 Posts
March 26 2016 15:45 GMT
#1
I was watching a replay of harstem, but not for the reason you are thinking. So I'll go over what exactly happened.

Harstem was the friendliest to me when i first got to the tournament. We were getting along really well and we were hanging out bantering around and stuff. When we knew we were playing against each other I immidietly thought that i would never win and in my head i had already accepted defeat so i was just fooling around there and standing behind harstem going "I'm just here for research hehehe" and he seemed to be fine with that and so when he went away for a second I decided to jokingly open up a replay and be like "Kappa" and I had no intention of "stealing" replays or watching it when he was gone to gain an advantage, he wasn't that far away so my plan was just to watch about 10 seconds and he would see it and come and we just laugh about it and that is exactly what happened.

Had my opponent been nerchio,ptitdrogo or anyone else, I would not even try to stand behind them since I didn't really talk to them that much and I would asume that they would be just like "Can you go away? why are you here?"

I'm asuming that in the rules it says that under no circumstance someone should open up a replay of an opponent so the disqualification.. fair enough.

So I just want to clear up that I had no bad intentions and Harstem and me are cool and it was just a joke.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 26 2016 15:58 GMT
#2
So if the both of you were getting along quite well, why didn't Harstem stand up for you and say he was fine with your opening the replay ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
March 26 2016 15:59 GMT
#3
On March 27 2016 00:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
So if the both of you were getting along quite well, why didn't Harstem stand up for you and say he was fine with your opening the replay ?

On March 25 2016 18:37 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:52 Musicus wrote:
If Has wins vs Harstem? How much would he wish he just did not say anything about Sioras using his computer to watch replays?

he was trying to get them not to dq sioras .. X_X

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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 16:02:19
March 26 2016 16:02 GMT
#4
On March 27 2016 00:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 00:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
So if the both of you were getting along quite well, why didn't Harstem stand up for you and say he was fine with your opening the replay ?

Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 18:37 Scarlett` wrote:
On March 25 2016 17:52 Musicus wrote:
If Has wins vs Harstem? How much would he wish he just did not say anything about Sioras using his computer to watch replays?

he was trying to get them not to dq sioras .. X_X


Nice thanks. The organizers were really harsh on that one, there is the letter but the spirit too, and Sioras' storyline was such a nice one...
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
March 26 2016 16:11 GMT
#5
this gun be good..
terrible, terrible, damage
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 26 2016 16:27 GMT
#6
Man, sucks for you, good to clear that up! I would've thought the worst of you otherwise tbh.

I hope you still gained some experience and this won't affect you negatively in the future.

I have to say, Sebou, the Invasion manager, should've maybe gotten the full story before going on twitter with this. How did he even know about it, if Harstem wasn't the one who complained?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
pr1de
Profile Joined January 2016
38 Posts
March 26 2016 16:30 GMT
#7
I hope you learn from your mistake. You know you cant do that, and still you did it. Is it unconcious maybe, because in your mind you thought you had already lost? And so your unconcious thought lets DQ myself.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 26 2016 16:47 GMT
#8
WCS being heavy handed and screwing over players for minor things. Why am I not shocked?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
March 26 2016 17:25 GMT
#9
Ah, that suck for you, I hope you get another shot in a big tournament someday.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 17:59:12
March 26 2016 17:58 GMT
#10
On March 27 2016 01:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 00:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 27 2016 00:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
So if the both of you were getting along quite well, why didn't Harstem stand up for you and say he was fine with your opening the replay ?

On March 25 2016 18:37 Scarlett` wrote:
On March 25 2016 17:52 Musicus wrote:
If Has wins vs Harstem? How much would he wish he just did not say anything about Sioras using his computer to watch replays?

he was trying to get them not to dq sioras .. X_X


Nice thanks. The organizers were really harsh on that one, there is the letter but the spirit too, and Sioras' storyline was such a nice one...

Harstem's manager was making a fuss out of it, notice that it is basically just him on twitter. However that forces Blizzard/Netease's hand, Harstem himself has no problem with what Sioras did and actively tried to not get Sioras DQed.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3505 Posts
March 26 2016 18:12 GMT
#11
I hope you and Harstem can remain friendly, now that Harstem has won, he might even jokingly give you the replays ? : D
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 26 2016 18:53 GMT
#12
On March 27 2016 00:45 SiorasSC wrote:
I was watching a replay of harstem, but not for the reason you are thinking. So I'll go over what exactly happened.

Harstem was the friendliest to me when i first got to the tournament. We were getting along really well and we were hanging out bantering around and stuff. When we knew we were playing against each other I immidietly thought that i would never win and in my head i had already accepted defeat so i was just fooling around there and standing behind harstem going "I'm just here for research hehehe" and he seemed to be fine with that and so when he went away for a second I decided to jokingly open up a replay and be like "Kappa" and I had no intention of "stealing" replays or watching it when he was gone to gain an advantage, he wasn't that far away so my plan was just to watch about 10 seconds and he would see it and come and we just laugh about it and that is exactly what happened.

Had my opponent been nerchio,ptitdrogo or anyone else, I would not even try to stand behind them since I didn't really talk to them that much and I would asume that they would be just like "Can you go away? why are you here?"

I'm asuming that in the rules it says that under no circumstance someone should open up a replay of an opponent so the disqualification.. fair enough.

So I just want to clear up that I had no bad intentions and Harstem and me are cool and it was just a joke.

Thank you, this explanation sounds very reasonable ... We were discussing here that you would have to be really very stupid to do something like that publicly. So now I feel very sorry how it turned against you. Hopefully, you will manage to get some good wins in some good tournaments in the future and will be able to forget this.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
March 26 2016 18:55 GMT
#13
On March 27 2016 01:47 showstealer1829 wrote:
WCS being heavy handed and screwing over players for minor things. Why am I not shocked?


Hah, you think that's harsh?

Try ppp.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 26 2016 18:55 GMT
#14
hahaha WCS admins bullshitting on things :D

WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3499 Posts
March 26 2016 19:10 GMT
#15
It s really unfortunate but at the same time the rule is the rule and I suppose the admin had little room to do anything else.
Anyways thanks for clarifying the situation. I hope to see you in more tournaments!
Horang2 fan
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 19:16:47
March 26 2016 19:16 GMT
#16
Quite sad you were disqualified, knowing how it really happened. Now, I hope we can see you in the future in other offline tournaments.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 19:22:16
March 26 2016 19:21 GMT
#17
On March 27 2016 04:10 WGT-Baal wrote:
It s really unfortunate but at the same time the rule is the rule and I suppose the admin had little room to do anything else.
Anyways thanks for clarifying the situation. I hope to see you in more tournaments!

I just believe, there is no such rule. It is similar as having a rule that you are not allowed to put your cat into microwave to dry it after rain. Or you should not throw knifes into the public. Or you should not play naked. I do not think, there is a rule that you must have clothes on you when playing at the tournament. There will be some general statement that you should be respectful or normal or "as usual"...

Really pity for Sioras. And as some people say, that he could learn from his mistakes, his only mistake was that he wanted to do a "joke with a friend" and that friend was not that much a friend, he was just a friendly foreign guy. And when the "lawyer machinery" starts once, it is difficult to stop it.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 26 2016 21:59 GMT
#18
Wait... How does everyone else dry off their cat?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 26 2016 22:32 GMT
#19
That's really unfortunate. Good luck in the future Sioras.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 26 2016 22:48 GMT
#20
That's very sad, and not much to do now, but better luck next time I guess ;/

On March 27 2016 01:47 showstealer1829 wrote:
WCS being heavy handed and screwing over players for minor things. Why am I not shocked?

You mean... minor things like living in korea? :p
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