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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
coooolibri
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany3 Posts
January 29 2016 15:57 GMT
#361
On January 30 2016 00:54 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:52 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...


Probably wanted to get rid of association as soon as possible.

well both teams claim they had no knowledge of this, and frankly if afreeca found out KT knew he was under investigation and didn't divulge, couldn't the trade be nullified by kespa? like in american sports i believe you have to disclose injuries to players you're trying to trade


life will play next friday. thats what they said on todays GSL stream.
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
January 29 2016 15:57 GMT
#362
Well this thread is more interesting than my thesis, sure. I just hope that some clarification will arrive rather sooner than later so that I can continue to study and ppl can chill.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 29 2016 15:58 GMT
#363
the only positive thing about this is that Life is gonna a good anti-pick....
Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
January 29 2016 15:58 GMT
#364
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...


They traded him for Leenock and it's also not really all that strange if you know KT Rolster, they are a team that value Proleague above Individual League's. Life was never the best player in Proleague (52% win rate with 12-11 in games, 0-1 in ace match last proleague) or GSTL generally. Leenock on the other hand had a much better winrate in Proleague last season (61% with 11-7 in games, 1-1 in ace match). Hence why for KT, Leenock is looking better then Life for their win chance in Proleague.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 15:59 GMT
#365
On January 30 2016 00:57 coooolibri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:54 brickrd wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:52 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...


Probably wanted to get rid of association as soon as possible.

well both teams claim they had no knowledge of this, and frankly if afreeca found out KT knew he was under investigation and didn't divulge, couldn't the trade be nullified by kespa? like in american sports i believe you have to disclose injuries to players you're trying to trade


life will play next friday. thats what they said on todays GSL stream.

kespa can't know that he will play unless the police inform kespa that he isn't being charged, and if that were the case kespa would have said in their statement "he is not being charged" instead of being defensive about the possibility of fixing
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
January 29 2016 15:59 GMT
#366
On January 30 2016 00:55 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:53 aQuaSC wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...

The trade involved Life and Leenock though, what Losira has to do with this?

tbh i mix up leenock and losira all the time

... one is called cat zerg and has like 1500 APM, the other has purple hair, easy to tell them apart

On January 30 2016 00:54 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:52 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...


Probably wanted to get rid of association as soon as possible.

well both teams claim they had no knowledge of this, and frankly if afreeca found out KT knew he was under investigation and didn't divulge, couldn't the trade be nullified by kespa? like in american sports i believe you have to disclose injuries to players you're trying to trade

While that might be true, we don't really know the details of the deal. Could be something weird that would lead to just Life joining Afreeca would be nullified.

Though if KT knew, KeSPA knew, and KeSPA should have interfered back then, theoretically.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
January 29 2016 15:59 GMT
#367
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

User was temp banned for this post.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 29 2016 16:01 GMT
#368
I believe, innocent until proven otherwise.
Also listening to Don't Stop Believing might be a good thing right now
And I'm surprised with how calm I am right now, 5 hours after reading this...
ahh... but I'm also very afraid
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 29 2016 16:01 GMT
#369
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.


You're obnoxious;[
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 16:02 GMT
#370
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

i don't think it's stupid, i think about this possibility a lot. it's possible that the entire scene is just dominated by this sort of thing and that "clean" players are less common than we think. no way for us to prove this from our bedrooms, but i think it's naive to not even CONSIDER it. the whole system could be fucked as far as i know
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ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
January 29 2016 16:02 GMT
#371
On January 30 2016 00:57 coooolibri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:54 brickrd wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:52 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:50 SC2Towelie wrote:
Pure speculation on my part here, but isn't it a little weird that KT traded Life, one of the greatest zerg players of all time, for Losira? And the trade occurred just before this news...


Probably wanted to get rid of association as soon as possible.

well both teams claim they had no knowledge of this, and frankly if afreeca found out KT knew he was under investigation and didn't divulge, couldn't the trade be nullified by kespa? like in american sports i believe you have to disclose injuries to players you're trying to trade


life will play next friday. thats what they said on todays GSL stream.


STX also said that they will continue to sponsor SC2 teams after they won PL but we all know what happened afterwards.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
January 29 2016 16:02 GMT
#372
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
January 29 2016 16:04 GMT
#373
I had to go in to work basically as soon as this broke. Have there been any significant updates?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
January 29 2016 16:05 GMT
#374
On January 30 2016 01:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I had to go in to work basically as soon as this broke. Have there been any significant updates?

It's late night in Korea, wouldn't expect anything for a while.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Achmoulin
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden63 Posts
January 29 2016 16:05 GMT
#375
On January 30 2016 01:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I had to go in to work basically as soon as this broke. Have there been any significant updates?

Nope, night in korea.
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
January 29 2016 16:05 GMT
#376
weow, rip.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 29 2016 16:06 GMT
#377
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.
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neurego7647
Profile Joined January 2016
12 Posts
January 29 2016 16:07 GMT
#378
On January 30 2016 01:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I had to go in to work basically as soon as this broke. Have there been any significant updates?


Korea is now 1:00 AM. So there can't be any updates
Calm down and wait at least 8 hours
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
January 29 2016 16:07 GMT
#379
uh oh, someone check up on zeal
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17019 Posts
January 29 2016 16:07 GMT
#380
On January 30 2016 01:02 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

i don't think it's stupid, i think about this possibility a lot. it's possible that the entire scene is just dominated by this sort of thing and that "clean" players are less common than we think. no way for us to prove this from our bedrooms, but i think it's naive to not even CONSIDER it. the whole system could be fucked as far as i know


much of the reasoning about how easy it is to matchfix tennis applies to SC2. and because it pays so much less players are far more vulnerable to corruption.
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