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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12758 Posts
January 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#221
no fricking way
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#222
On January 29 2016 22:53 Penev wrote:
Someone put Zealously on suicide watch just in case btw

I might need it too actually..

We're three then.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
January 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#223
Jesus christ
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#224
On January 29 2016 23:06 nimdil wrote:
I like how the OP phrased it:
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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.


It sounds like slandering players might be acceptable in the future


Yeah, once we have more information, we may slander the shit out of them, even TL staff may help with this haha
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
January 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#225
On January 29 2016 22:49 brickrd wrote:
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On January 29 2016 22:44 Lumi wrote:
I hope he sues for defamation when cleared

in what insane lewis carroll universe would life have any grounds to sue anyone here?


I think you're a funny person because, as I've seen throughout this thread, you're capable of expecting people to give you the time of day when you stink of disrespect from across the world.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#226
On January 29 2016 23:05 palexhur wrote:
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On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.


Savior earned a lot of more money than life, but he was greedy, being large of money doesnt relate to be inoccent or guilty of matchfixing in SC world.


Absolutely incorrect. It's well known by now that the pros involved in the BW matchfixing scandal weren't paid much for their troubles, certainly not compared to sAviOr's salary and tournament winnings. It's also known that in sAviOr's case in particular, boredom and lack of passion for the game played a big role rather than greed.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
January 29 2016 14:09 GMT
#227
wtf!!
THERIDDLER
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada131 Posts
January 29 2016 14:09 GMT
#228
I guess you can say, life was too greedy, should've scouted the korean scene first.. XD
Please don't fricken hack, its just a game.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 14:09 GMT
#229
On January 29 2016 23:01 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:57 brickrd wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:54 Musicus wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives.

Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason.

On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.



I does not, but it does make this case weird.
it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking.

Hmm, it seems you're making the same mistake you accuse others of now. Things like this are actually more prevalent when people lack/ need money.
that's not how probability works. he's under investigation which in itself makes him an isolated case.

if life were NOT being investigated, then you could say that he is less likely in a predictive sense to do such a thing based on demographic data (assuming such data actually indicates less success increases those odds, which is believable, but i don't have those numbers)

but once he's accused, if for example he were on trial it would not make any sense to try to defend him by saying "well, he's successful, so why would he do it?" sure, his lawyer would probably try to insinuate exactly that, just like lawyers of rich white people try to argue that they're successful and respected in their communities. but it's not real logic. you can't argue that someone robbed a bank because they're poor and poor people need money, and it doesn't make sense in reverse either

this is all assuming there is legitimate evidence of something and that there's no crazy conspiracy to frame life, which is possible as far as i know. but if there is legit evidence, that affects him as a data point, and it becomes a question of did he do something, yes or no, not "would he" do something

all that said, we still don't know all of this. but people are talking, and one of the things they're saying is that he wouldn't do it because he's rich, which is very very very silly.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 29 2016 14:09 GMT
#230
Damn. And here I was thinking we couldn't get any more bad news.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
January 29 2016 14:11 GMT
#231
Just fuck my scene up fam
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
January 29 2016 14:14 GMT
#232
On January 29 2016 23:09 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:01 Penev wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:57 brickrd wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:54 Musicus wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives.

Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason.

On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.



I does not, but it does make this case weird.
it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking.

Hmm, it seems you're making the same mistake you accuse others of now. Things like this are actually more prevalent when people lack/ need money.
that's not how probability works. he's under investigation which in itself makes him an isolated case.

if life were NOT being investigated, then you could say that he is less likely in a predictive sense to do such a thing based on demographic data (assuming such data actually indicates less success increases those odds, which is believable, but i don't have those numbers)

but once he's accused, if for example he were on trial it would not make any sense to try to defend him by saying "well, he's successful, so why would he do it?" sure, his lawyer would probably try to insinuate exactly that, just like lawyers of rich white people try to argue that they're successful and respected in their communities. but it's not real logic. you can't argue that someone robbed a bank because they're poor and poor people need money, and it doesn't make sense in reverse either

this is all assuming there is legitimate evidence of something and that there's no crazy conspiracy to frame life, which is possible as far as i know. but if there is legit evidence, that affects him as a data point, and it becomes a question of did he do something, yes or no, not "would he" do something

all that said, we still don't know all of this. but people are talking, and one of the things they're saying is that he wouldn't do it because he's rich, which is very very very silly.

True. If anything, it's more understandable (less bad?) when poor people commit an economic crime

But I don't think Musicus said "he wouldn't do it because he's rich"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
January 29 2016 14:14 GMT
#233
Probably just a normal questioning.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
January 29 2016 14:15 GMT
#234
...

I'm so shocked that I don't even know how to properly express myself right now...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
January 29 2016 14:15 GMT
#235
On January 29 2016 23:14 Weavel wrote:
Probably just a normal questioning.

I don't think he would be arrested if it was just questioning
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 29 2016 14:16 GMT
#236
Let's try to deviate the attention to something not painful.

It was confirmed that it was Life who requested the transfer from KT to Freecs. Why do you think he did that?
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
January 29 2016 14:17 GMT
#237
LIFE NO

Life I love you come back
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
January 29 2016 14:17 GMT
#238
On January 29 2016 23:16 Silvana wrote:
Let's try to deviate the attention to something not painful.

It was confirmed that it was Life who requested the transfer from KT to Freecs. Why do you think he did that?

Didn't like KT?
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
January 29 2016 14:17 GMT
#239
On January 29 2016 23:07 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:53 Penev wrote:
Someone put Zealously on suicide watch just in case btw

I might need it too actually..

We're three then.


Can I get in on that? Cant focus on work at all right now...cant believe im this distracted because of SC2.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 29 2016 14:17 GMT
#240
On January 29 2016 23:14 Weavel wrote:
Probably just a normal questioning.

I don't think KeSPA would prevent him from playing until the investigation ends if it was a questioning.
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